Manchester - A city built by immigrants.

[Why Always Ste]

I don't recognise the Burberry wearing bigots referred to earlier in the thread and if they exist they must be a very small minority of our support.

Apologies if you thought I was implying that all our support wear those brands. Myself I don't and I'm a blue... But there are a number of our support that do and do hold bigoted views about non-whites.... As do vast sections of society. We are where those in power want us to be - divided, ruled, and conquered into mass consumers.

 

[stony]

eventually the council built Heywood as a Manc. Overspill and she moved there..

Heywood was never a Manchester overspill, its origins are far older than that. It grew out of Heap bridge(ape bridge in the local dialect, hence the nickname Monkey town).
Darnhill was the Manchester overspill.

 

[kas_tippler]

My children are half 'asylum seekers' their grandparents were refugees after the second world war.

 

[Why Always Ste]

Heywood was never a Manchester overspill, its origins are far older than that. It grew out of Heap bridge(ape bridge in the local dialect, hence the nickname Monkey town).
Darnhill was the Manchester overspill.

Thats what I meant, a large chunk of people who migrated to Manchester where placed in the council homes in Heywood.
You're talking a few mins walking distance from heap bridge to darn hill :/

My Dad was born in an house on Wolsey Street

 

[SWP's back]

Manchester was never French.

The French didn't own Normandy, that was Norsemen (second/third generation Vikings).

Other than that, great post Ken.

 

[stony]

Thats what I meant, a large chunk of people who migrated to Manchester where placed in the council homes in Heywood.
You're talking a few mins walking distance from heap bridge to darn hill :/

My Dad was born in an house on Wolsey Street

There was a lot of mistrust and resentment over Darnhill from the older residents. My generation grew up with it, I even went to school there. My mums and older generations never really accepted it. They would rail at the idea of being from Gtr Manchester and would say they were from Lancashire.
I'm not sure what it's like now but it used to be everyone from Darnhill had a proper Manc accent, but a couple of streets away it was pure Lancashire. I remember finding it strange when I first went to school and everyone spoke with a strange accent.

 

[Tim of the Oak]

Apologies if you thought I was implying that all our support wear those brands. Myself I don't and I'm a blue... But there are a number of our support that do and do hold bigoted views about non-whites.... As do vast sections of society. We are where those in power want us to be - divided, ruled, and conquered into mass consumers.

Thanks Ste. I take your point about bigots in society so we are bound to have some.

I know we have plenty of characters who - in the main - are good hearted people. I had to laugh at a picture in the papers showing the celebrations of of one of our goals at Goodison a few weeks ago. Every other Blue in our block are looking forward to join the celebrations with the team but me and the guy next to me have our backs to the pitch holding back Blues surging down the aisle from (accidentally) crushing the steward!

 

[aguero93:20]

Manchester was never French.

The French didn't own Normandy, that was Norsemen (second/third generation Vikings).

Other than that, great post Ken.

It would be more accurate to say the Gauls and Franks didn't own Normandy. :)

 

[SWP's back]

It would be more accurate to say the Gauls and Franks didn't own Normandy. :)

Absolutely.

 

[BimboBob]

It's a bit sad that so many people think the Normans were French.

Very. I have no idea what they teach in schools these days.

It also took nearly 10 years to complete the 'conquest' and around 100 years for English society to accept interbreeding. In fact a lot of English emigrated themselves to...and this is the irony...the Black Sea area, namely Turkey and around southern Ukraine. I suspect they were greeted with hostility, especially when their boats collapsed.