Manchester City close on Pellegrini (merged)

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is it possible to be an inner and an outer?

on the one hand i think we should go for the stability approach, mancini has proven he can win trophies and i genuinely think europe will improve given some more time.

but on the other we have a fantastic squad that oozes ability and it would be exciting and interesting to see if another top manager can get us playing even better football and go one more than mancini.



didsbury dave and the likes obviously believe the latter and are 100% on this, and the people against their argument obviously believe the second. to be honest I'm torn and like always, keep changing my mind.
 
The club has no intention of dancing to the rag mediah's tune so will confine to keep quiet.
As to this thread please lock it till Sunday. It is the biggest game of the season tomorrow and we should show Roberto some respect for a few days.
 
dancity19 said:
moomba said:
And gain us nothing.

Tony Fernandez made a similar statement a few weeks before he got rid of Leslie.

It means very little, and wouldnt stop speculation.


Well he got rid of him didn't he.

I am not saying we put out a statement and then 3 weeks later get rid of Mancini- as that would make us look stupid.

My point is, we should know by now if Mancini is staying next season, or not. If we don't then thats pretty poor.

But assuming we do know- if he is staying, we put a statement out, and that loses us nothing.

I'm not saying we put a statement out but then sack him. I do think, if he is definitely staying, then we stop the stories.

The fact you used the QPR example suggests you think we might get rid of Mancini then??

-- Fri May 10, 2013 11:39 am --

wireblue said:
dancity19 said:
Not really- if we say we have no intention of getting rid of him, then we don't need to rubbish every rumour do we- we have rubbished them all with one statement. I partly see your point, but don't think it does have to be like that.

I think it would achieve a bit of clarity- and as much as anything, I, as a fan, would like to know.

All it needs is one statement. Yet we have let a rumour rumble on, and get to the extent where Mancini is asked about in Press Conferences, and where one of our key decision makers was seen out having lunch with Pellegrinis agent.

It looks, very much like we have at least contacted him, or mused over the idea of changing manager.

IF we are definitely keeping Mancini next season, which we should know by now, then a statement to rubbish stories otherwise would lose us nothing.

How often do we need to state mancini isn't getting sacked?
We said it last summer by giving him a new contract. So are you saying we need to say it this summer to stop rumours?
How about next summer or do we need to put out a statement in january as well? Maybe a weekly bulletin?

So far we have been linked with pretty much every manager in europe. By virtue of the fact we can't be managed by 13 different people it means these reports are complete and utter bollocks.

There is a difference between being speculatively linked with a manager- and having your key decision maker seen having lunch with his agent.

Stories are coming from everywhere now linking us with Pellegrini it seems- it's not just some wild conjecture across Bluemoon.

I understand that rubbishing one story, may set a precedent. But this story seems to have gathered pace, and the sighting with Txiki and the agent adds more foundation to it. All I am saying is, if we are sticking with Mancini, I don't think a statement, or just a comment from someone, rubbishing the ongoing Pellegrini link would harm us.

People have lunch with agents all the time. It means nothing other than to show how desperate people are for any information on city.
And yes, it would harm us to put out a statement.
You either deny nothing or you deny everything - once you start denying some things and not others you are automatically giving credence to certain stories.
City have absolutely nothing to gain by putting out a statement about mancini.
if some fans want a statement just to put their own minds at ease then that's their problem not the club's.
 
Petetheblu said:
Benarbia said:
Duccy with his usual common sense ftw xx

××××××STOP PRESS××××××

Mr B says something nice about someone, something, fookin anything! Some one call the Doctor.....

See this perception about me is JUST all wrong
 
ban-mcfc said:
oakiecokie said:
levets said:
He's also not good enough!

too hurried for me... no composure, no finesse... he's a decent run about... A young Scott parker

Just remind us all again. What age is he ?? OK so therefore he has a lot of years in front of him to mature into a very good player.Just give the lad a fucking break.

that's true but at the moment he is like a young scott parker but with less ability, he might go on to be a great player but he's not great at the moment.

rodwell is streets ahead.

Have you started on the Wembley trail already with a few beers ?? Thats who i`m on about,Rodwell ! Piss head. ;)
 
oakiecokie said:
ban-mcfc said:
oakiecokie said:
Just remind us all again. What age is he ?? OK so therefore he has a lot of years in front of him to mature into a very good player.Just give the lad a fucking break.

that's true but at the moment he is like a young scott parker but with less ability, he might go on to be a great player but he's not great at the moment.

rodwell is streets ahead.

Have you started on the Wembley trail already with a few beers ?? Thats who i`m on about,Rodwell ! Piss head. ;)

shit sorry thought it was razak.

had hardly no sleep and running on coffee at work :/
 
ban-mcfc said:
oakiecokie said:
levets said:
He's also not good enough!

too hurried for me... no composure, no finesse... he's a decent run about... A young Scott parker

Just remind us all again. What age is he ?? OK so therefore he has a lot of years in front of him to mature into a very good player.Just give the lad a fucking break.

that's true but at the moment he is like a young scott parker but with less ability, he might go on to be a great player but he's not great at the moment.

rodwell is streets ahead.

Hey mate ignore my last post as its obviously me whos talking pissed up !! lol Only just realised we`re on about Razak.Wondered why one or two were thinking Rodwell was shite !!
 
wireblue said:
dancity19 said:
moomba said:
And gain us nothing.

Tony Fernandez made a similar statement a few weeks before he got rid of Leslie.

It means very little, and wouldnt stop speculation.


Well he got rid of him didn't he.

I am not saying we put out a statement and then 3 weeks later get rid of Mancini- as that would make us look stupid.

My point is, we should know by now if Mancini is staying next season, or not. If we don't then thats pretty poor.

But assuming we do know- if he is staying, we put a statement out, and that loses us nothing.

I'm not saying we put a statement out but then sack him. I do think, if he is definitely staying, then we stop the stories.

The fact you used the QPR example suggests you think we might get rid of Mancini then??

-- Fri May 10, 2013 11:39 am --

wireblue said:
How often do we need to state mancini isn't getting sacked?
We said it last summer by giving him a new contract. So are you saying we need to say it this summer to stop rumours?
How about next summer or do we need to put out a statement in january as well? Maybe a weekly bulletin?

So far we have been linked with pretty much every manager in europe. By virtue of the fact we can't be managed by 13 different people it means these reports are complete and utter bollocks.

There is a difference between being speculatively linked with a manager- and having your key decision maker seen having lunch with his agent.

Stories are coming from everywhere now linking us with Pellegrini it seems- it's not just some wild conjecture across Bluemoon.

I understand that rubbishing one story, may set a precedent. But this story seems to have gathered pace, and the sighting with Txiki and the agent adds more foundation to it. All I am saying is, if we are sticking with Mancini, I don't think a statement, or just a comment from someone, rubbishing the ongoing Pellegrini link would harm us.

People have lunch with agents all the time. It means nothing other than to show how desperate people are for any information on city.
And yes, it would harm us to put out a statement.
You either deny nothing or you deny everything - once you start denying some things and not others you are automatically giving credence to certain stories.
City have absolutely nothing to gain by putting out a statement about mancini.
if some fans want a statement just to put their own minds at ease then that's their problem not the club's.


Fine.

I think you are completely underplaying the strength of the links between us and Pellegrini, and the importance of a meeting with an agent.
I'm not in PR, journalism, nor do I know the inner workings of football, and a football club. Perhaps you do.

I am not saying though, that we deny every story. We have been linked to loads of managers, and loads of players, and I haven't once suggested we come out and deny/confirm any of those. For example, I certainly wouldn't suggest we need rubbish the Brendan Rodgers story.

Fact is, this link seems strong, persistent, and actually is really the only managerial link to us at the moment. Added into that the lunch with the agent. IF we are keeping him, we don't even necessarily need to come out and specifically deny this rumour- we just need to say we have no intention of parting company with Mancini.

I understand that once you deny one, the pressure is on you to deny all stories. I still think a blanket statement saying we are keeping mancini (IF WE ARE) wouldn't necessarily hurt us.

But lets agree to disagree- I understand some of your points, but think you are being far too extreme. We are going round in circles....
 
ban-mcfc said:
oakiecokie said:
ban-mcfc said:
that's true but at the moment he is like a young scott parker but with less ability, he might go on to be a great player but he's not great at the moment.

rodwell is streets ahead.

Have you started on the Wembley trail already with a few beers ?? Thats who i`m on about,Rodwell ! Piss head. ;)

shit sorry thought it was razak.

had hardly no sleep and running on coffee at work :/

Just realised its me who must be pissed.It is Razak.Its my age you know !!!
 
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