Manchester City close on Pellegrini (merged)

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BobKowalski said:
tolmie's hairdoo said:
George Hannah said:
and you're from Santiago!


Was more of an Acomb Street man, myself.

Anyhow, are you talking about Pellegrini or David Moyes?

United don't seem to have a problem appointing a man who has won less than Pellegrini and (I might be wrong here) dumped Moyes out of the only Champions League fixture he ever participated in?

Yep and its a gamble. The one thing Moyes brings is that he will do it the 'right' way. He won't woman about 'interference' from above. He won't woman if money is a bit tight. He won't try and control the decision making and he won't challenge anyone internally. The board and Taggart have made the decision and its someone who won't make waves like a Jose or a Rafa or even a Roberto to name but three.

I have never rated Moyes for the one thing that has been a constant throughout his Everton career and that is his ability to bottle it when it matters. The man has got through to one FA Cup final in eleven years and whilst I don't expect him to win the PL one solitary losing FA Cup final appearance is pants. Moyes when it matters goes missing.

Mancini for all his faults has a habit of delivering when it matters which is why in every full season save one and irrespective of whether he has money or not he delivers a trophy. The one season he didn't he got a CL place for a cash strapped Lazio.

Pellegrini with his empty CV and the Spanish media taking the piss during his Madrid tenure when money was spent lavishly is not someone I would want in the trenches when it starts getting shitty. At least the Spanish media had the decency to hate Jose. Hate means you matter. Taking the piss means you simply don't count.

If Mancini is to go and its not going to be a Jose or a Rafa or a Carlo replacing him but a Pellegrini then the reasoning that has driven Moyes potential appointment may be the overriding factor with this potential appointment.

So yes. Its a concern. And no getting 'brave' Malaga to do well against the odds doesn't cut much ice. We are not Malaga. No one gasps in admiration and pats us on the back when we win. City are expected to win. City are expected to win in style. Mancini gets grief if the team falls below an expected standard. If Malaga don't perform people make excuses. City like Chelsea or Madrid do not have the luxury of excuses. A few managers can handle that. Most can't.
great post, 100% this
 
BobKowalski said:
tolmie's hairdoo said:
George Hannah said:
and you're from Santiago!


Was more of an Acomb Street man, myself.

Anyhow, are you talking about Pellegrini or David Moyes?

United don't seem to have a problem appointing a man who has won less than Pellegrini and (I might be wrong here) dumped Moyes out of the only Champions League fixture he ever participated in?

Yep and its a gamble. The one thing Moyes brings is that he will do it the 'right' way. He won't woman about 'interference' from above. He won't woman if money is a bit tight. He won't try and control the decision making and he won't challenge anyone internally. The board and Taggart have made the decision and its someone who won't make waves like a Jose or a Rafa or even a Roberto to name but three.

I have never rated Moyes for the one thing that has been a constant throughout his Everton career and that is his ability to bottle it when it matters. The man has got through to one FA Cup final in eleven years and whilst I don't expect him to win the PL one solitary losing FA Cup final appearance is pants. Moyes when it matters goes missing.

Mancini for all his faults has a habit of delivering when it matters which is why in every full season save one and irrespective of whether he has money or not he delivers a trophy. The one season he didn't he got a CL place for a cash strapped Lazio.

Pellegrini with his empty CV and the Spanish media taking the piss during his Madrid tenure when money was spent lavishly is not someone I would want in the trenches when it starts getting shitty. At least the Spanish media had the decency to hate Jose. Hate means you matter. Taking the piss means you simply don't count.

If Mancini is to go and its not going to be a Jose or a Rafa or a Carlo replacing him but a Pellegrini then the reasoning that has driven Moyes potential appointment may be the overriding factor with this potential appointment.

So yes. Its a concern. And no getting 'brave' Malaga to do well against the odds doesn't cut much ice. We are not Malaga. No one gasps in admiration and pats us on the back when we win. City are expected to win. City are expected to win in style. Mancini gets grief if the team falls below an expected standard. If Malaga don't perform people make excuses. City like Chelsea or Madrid do not have the luxury of excuses. A few managers can handle that. Most can't.


Top post my feeling too it will be one the biggest mistakes in our club history if we appoint Pellegrini
 
Santiago Street . said:
I'm very worried about the influence of our Spaniards. I've said it before and I'll say it again - the success of Barca is 80% Messi and 20% the emergence of the Xavi, Iniesta group a decade ago. Txiki and Soriano got lucky, I'm sure they're very capable men but if they have chosen this guy as Bob's successor it smacks of a jobs for the boys situation.

Do you have a fanboy crush on Mancini ? Why distort the reality when you don't know about it ?

Xavi and Iniesta contributed almost 0% in winning back-to-back La Liga in 2004–05 and in 2005–06 . Marquez was Busquets , Deco and Giuly were Iniesta and Xavi respectively , Eto was David Villa and Ronaldinho played the traditional Forward role. All these players were also the standout performers in their Champions League triumph.

All of these were purchased by Txiki (it was written in the stars), that's why some board members have doubts on Andoni Zubizarreta , and they say ; He's no Txiki.

Rijkaard and Txiki moulded Xavi , Iniesta and Messi , and they later on contributed significantly in Barcelona's success .

I found Suarez , Pozo , Lopes , Rekik , Ntcham , and some other guys extremely talented , and have reservations that they will not be able to fulfill their potentials under Mancini.

IMHO , Pellegrini will be our next manager.
 
BobKowalski said:
tolmie's hairdoo said:
George Hannah said:
and you're from Santiago!


Was more of an Acomb Street man, myself.

Anyhow, are you talking about Pellegrini or David Moyes?

United don't seem to have a problem appointing a man who has won less than Pellegrini and (I might be wrong here) dumped Moyes out of the only Champions League fixture he ever participated in?

Yep and its a gamble. The one thing Moyes brings is that he will do it the 'right' way. He won't woman about 'interference' from above. He won't woman if money is a bit tight. He won't try and control the decision making and he won't challenge anyone internally. The board and Taggart have made the decision and its someone who won't make waves like a Jose or a Rafa or even a Roberto to name but three.

I have never rated Moyes for the one thing that has been a constant throughout his Everton career and that is his ability to bottle it when it matters. The man has got through to one FA Cup final in eleven years and whilst I don't expect him to win the PL one solitary losing FA Cup final appearance is pants. Moyes when it matters goes missing.

Mancini for all his faults has a habit of delivering when it matters which is why in every full season save one and irrespective of whether he has money or not he delivers a trophy. The one season he didn't he got a CL place for a cash strapped Lazio.

Pellegrini with his empty CV and the Spanish media taking the piss during his Madrid tenure when money was spent lavishly is not someone I would want in the trenches when it starts getting shitty. At least the Spanish media had the decency to hate Jose. Hate means you matter. Taking the piss means you simply don't count.

If Mancini is to go and its not going to be a Jose or a Rafa or a Carlo replacing him but a Pellegrini then the reasoning that has driven Moyes potential appointment may be the overriding factor with this potential appointment.

So yes. Its a concern. And no getting 'brave' Malaga to do well against the odds doesn't cut much ice. We are not Malaga. No one gasps in admiration and pats us on the back when we win. City are expected to win. City are expected to win in style. Mancini gets grief if the team falls below an expected standard. If Malaga don't perform people make excuses. City like Chelsea or Madrid do not have the luxury of excuses. A few managers can handle that. Most can't.


Excellent post - on the edge of my seat at the end!
 
sam663 said:
Santiago Street . said:
I'm very worried about the influence of our Spaniards. I've said it before and I'll say it again - the success of Barca is 80% Messi and 20% the emergence of the Xavi, Iniesta group a decade ago. Txiki and Soriano got lucky, I'm sure they're very capable men but if they have chosen this guy as Bob's successor it smacks of a jobs for the boys situation.

Do you have a fanboy crush on Mancini ? Why distort the reality when you don't know about it ?

Xavi and Iniesta contributed almost 0% in winning back-to-back La Liga in 2004–05 and in 2005–06 . Marquez was Busquets , Deco and Giuly were Iniesta and Xavi respectively , Eto was David Villa and Ronaldinho played the traditional Forward role. All these players were also the standout performers in their Champions League triumph.

All of these were purchased by Txiki (it was written in the stars), that's why some board members have doubts on Andoni Zubizarreta , and they say ; He's no Txiki.

Rijkaard and Txiki moulded Xavi , Iniesta and Messi , and they later on contributed significantly in Barcelona's success .

I found Suarez , Pozo , Lopes , Rekik , Ntcham , and some other guys extremely talented , and have reservations that they will not be able to fulfill their potentials under Mancini.

IMHO , Pellegrini will be our next manager.

Slow day at work so I'll bite

I'm always suspicious of City fans who PRETEND to know loads about foreign football like yourself, it's a noticable trait of the johnny come lately fan.

04-05, Iniesta played in 37 league games and Xavi (vice captain that year) played in 36

Now what reality were you talking about ?
 
BobKowalski said:
...If Mancini is to go and its not going to be a Jose or a Rafa or a Carlo replacing him but a Pellegrini then the reasoning that has driven Moyes potential appointment may be the overriding factor with this potential appointment.
I fell off my chair twice reading that!
 
City fans are fast becoming the self-flagellation specialists of the footballing world.

I liked it far more when we were self-deprecating.
 
BobKowalski said:
tolmie's hairdoo said:
George Hannah said:
and you're from Santiago!


Was more of an Acomb Street man, myself.

Anyhow, are you talking about Pellegrini or David Moyes?

United don't seem to have a problem appointing a man who has won less than Pellegrini and (I might be wrong here) dumped Moyes out of the only Champions League fixture he ever participated in?

Yep and its a gamble. The one thing Moyes brings is that he will do it the 'right' way. He won't woman about 'interference' from above. He won't woman if money is a bit tight. He won't try and control the decision making and he won't challenge anyone internally. The board and Taggart have made the decision and its someone who won't make waves like a Jose or a Rafa or even a Roberto to name but three.

I have never rated Moyes for the one thing that has been a constant throughout his Everton career and that is his ability to bottle it when it matters. The man has got through to one FA Cup final in eleven years and whilst I don't expect him to win the PL one solitary losing FA Cup final appearance is pants. Moyes when it matters goes missing.

Mancini for all his faults has a habit of delivering when it matters which is why in every full season save one and irrespective of whether he has money or not he delivers a trophy. The one season he didn't he got a CL place for a cash strapped Lazio.

Pellegrini with his empty CV and the Spanish media taking the piss during his Madrid tenure when money was spent lavishly is not someone I would want in the trenches when it starts getting shitty. At least the Spanish media had the decency to hate Jose. Hate means you matter. Taking the piss means you simply don't count.

If Mancini is to go and its not going to be a Jose or a Rafa or a Carlo replacing him but a Pellegrini then the reasoning that has driven Moyes potential appointment may be the overriding factor with this potential appointment.

So yes. Its a concern. And no getting 'brave' Malaga to do well against the odds doesn't cut much ice. We are not Malaga. No one gasps in admiration and pats us on the back when we win. City are expected to win. City are expected to win in style. Mancini gets grief if the team falls below an expected standard. If Malaga don't perform people make excuses. City like Chelsea or Madrid do not have the luxury of excuses. A few managers can handle that. Most can't.


Good post but the Madrid tenure was successful. He was their for a single season and finished with 96points, how the fuck is that a failure? I mean on what scaled is that seen as failing?

Players signed were done so above him, it divided the dressing room and Pellegrini brought them together and they did brilliantly in the league.

What a crock of shite that Madrid bit is. No way can anyone justify that.<br /><br />-- Thu May 09, 2013 2:09 pm --<br /><br />
fbloke said:
City fans are fast becoming the self-flagellation specialists of the footballing world.

I liked it far more when we were self-deprecating.

Blame Aguerooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

The axe would have fell if not for him and also the expectation would be less.
 
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