Manchester City close on Pellegrini (merged)

[Phil1]

No harm in adding Hart as well,a Pearce signing,or Richards,a youth product.

Not bad foundations for a half decent boss......

Especially one with the ability to get an extra 40/50 percent from every player mentioned, bar maybe Tevez who was already an established top notch player.

No ones denying he has done a good job with the quality players he inherited,however,my issue with Mancini is,given that quality,and the further astronomical expenditure he was allowed,should we have done even better with both our performances and our incoming purchases?

I think we should have,subsequently I don't see him as being exceptional,which is what we now require.

I know your thoughts on this and your reasons are fair enough. I believe Mancini deserves a chance to put right the wrongs of this year and would like to think that the whole squad and management team will have the bit between their teeth to win the lot next year...well, domestically and get out of group stage.. :-)

 

[moomba]

I think Vinny played at centre half while Hughes was here

He spent time between centre half, centre mid and the bench under Les. He became a great defender under Mancini.

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

I think Vinny played at centre half while Hughes was here

He spent time between centre half, centre mid and the bench under Les. He became a great defender under Mancini.

i think he would have become a great player regardless of mancini.

 

[FantasyIreland]

Vinny was bought by Hamburg from Anderlecht to replace the departing DVB.

His abilities as a centre half had been long discovered before Mancini's arrival.Credit to him for reverting him to his natural role,however,you're getting giddy if you believe thats the work of a footballing genius.

In Hughes' defence,rightly or wrongly,maybe he thought our midfield need was greater than that of our defence.

 

[moomba]

I think Vinny played at centre half while Hughes was here

He spent time between centre half, centre mid and the bench under Les. He became a great defender under Mancini.

i think he would have become a great player regardless of mancini.

Quite possible.

 

[stony]

you can add tevez as well, basically the spine of our team is mark hughes signings.

Mancini bought milner

Tevez was an ADUG signing and Hughes was so fucking clueless he signed Vinny as a midfielder. It took Mancini to turn Vinny into the world class defender he is now. No way can Leslie take credit for Vinny. You can also credit Mancini with Zabs improvement. Every game he played under Hughes he was a red card waiting to happen. De Jong barely played in our title winning season and was sold. It looks like Lescott is on his way too.

kompany was a midfielder when we bought him.you are right bobby has improved these players, but without hughes they wouldnt be playing for us imo and hughes could have done the same thing

add to that i think hughes was the one who put kompany at CB instead of midfield. Lescott was one of our best players in the title winning season.

Hughes played VK at centre back when he had too, not by choice. Mancini turned City in the best defensive unit in the Prem for 3 consecutive years with virtually the same defenders that Hughes had. If Leslie was capable of doing that, why then did he flirt with relegation ?
I'm not Mancini's biggest fan but I can see that he's built one hell of a defensive unit and dismissing his achievement and saying one of the worst managers in the league could have done the same is ridiculous.

 

[dref619]

I can't for the life of me work out why it would be Pellegrini ? He's not exactly young enough to build a dynasty , like said previously , he's been at big clubs and not actually won a bean. It just doesn't add up to me. If they don't think Mancini is the long term answer, why would Pellegrini be it ?

 

[FantasyIreland]

I know your thoughts on this and your reasons are fair enough. I believe Mancini deserves a chance to put right the wrongs of this year and would like to think that the whole squad and management team will have the bit between their teeth to win the lot next year...well, domestically and get out of group stage.. :-)

Fair enough.I wont dispute a personal opinion.<br /><br />-- 09 May 2013 18:52 --<br /><br />

I think Vinny played at centre half while Hughes was here

He spent time between centre half, centre mid and the bench under Les. He became a great defender under Mancini.

Kompany was besieged with injury,many growth associated,before his arrival here,another reason he took time to become established and show his true ability.

He was touted as a youth prodigy that every top club wanted for good reason.

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

Tevez was an ADUG signing and Hughes was so fucking clueless he signed Vinny as a midfielder. It took Mancini to turn Vinny into the world class defender he is now. No way can Leslie take credit for Vinny. You can also credit Mancini with Zabs improvement. Every game he played under Hughes he was a red card waiting to happen. De Jong barely played in our title winning season and was sold. It looks like Lescott is on his way too.

kompany was a midfielder when we bought him.you are right bobby has improved these players, but without hughes they wouldnt be playing for us imo and hughes could have done the same thing

add to that i think hughes was the one who put kompany at CB instead of midfield. Lescott was one of our best players in the title winning season.

Hughes played VK at centre back when he had too, not by choice. Mancini turned City in the best defensive unit in the Prem for 3 consecutive years with virtually the same defenders that Hughes had. If Leslie was capable of doing that, why then did he flirt with relegation ?
I'm not Mancini's biggest fan but I can see that he's built one hell of a defensive unit and dismissing his achievement and saying one of the worst managers in the league could have done the same is ridiculous.

i havent said that i agree hes built one hell of a defensive unit. Just stating that a lot of that is to do with hughes and his signings. When hughes was the manager we were a top six seven team, difference is mancini added that extra quality- silva, ageuro, nasri that we needed. Whos to say that if hughes had have bought those players we would of won the league ???

Maybe not, but there is no denying hughes built the foundation of the team we have now.

 

[Blue Mooner]

No harm in adding Hart as well,a Pearce signing,or Richards,a youth product.

Not bad foundations for a half decent boss......

Especially one with the ability to get an extra 40/50 percent from every player mentioned, bar maybe Tevez who was already an established top notch player.

No ones denying he has done a good job with the quality players he inherited,however,my issue with Mancini is,given that quality,and the further astronomical expenditure he was allowed,should we have done even better with both our performances and our incoming purchases?

I think we should have,subsequently I don't see him as being exceptional,which is what we now require.

Not when in the first instance the other clubs had a massive head start and its not as if those clubs have also not spent heavily (Chelsea in particular) during Mancini's tenure.

The progress under Bobby has been nothing short of exceptional. My bet is that the club probably didn't expect us to win the league within 5 years.

The transformation when you think about it is unbelievable and he's now seen off Fergiebwho has finally run out of steam.