Manchester City close on Pellegrini (merged)

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Master_Tactician said:
ban-mcfc said:
Master_Tactician said:
With the rag's situation we need to strike while the iron's hot. They have a man in charge, being tutored by Fergie, who already schools Mancini almost every time they meet. Give him one Premiership trophy to settle and I'd predict that Utd will be equally as formidable if not more with Moyes as they are at the moment with Ferguson.

Hypothetically for yourself, what happens if we keep Mancini, we perform as inconsistently next season as this season and Mourinho has a similar impact at Chelsea as he did first time round? We're the third best team in England, changing manager at an even more disadvantageous time. My opinion is that that is the more likely scenario if we keep Mancini.

mancini has proven he can win the league.

that's a must now for next year, i'm only putting him a head of pellegrini hear.

IMO we can't bring in an unproven (in england) manager now.

the rags have taken a huge risk, we shouldn't.
We did win it, but it was on goal difference, against a poor Manchester United squad. It might sound defeatist but I don't think we'll have it that easy next season.

A poor United squad that got one of the highest points tallies in their history.

I dont know why people keep pushing this myth.
 
Pablo1 said:
The thing is he's just reeled of a load of names saying they deserve their chance when the truth is none of the above actually do. Not one of those mentioned has shown enough to be given premier league games. There's some potential and one or two who will forge a good career in the game but to say any of them should be playing regular for a team challenging at the top end of the league is batshit.

Show me where i said that they should be playing regularly , i replied to other poster who ridiculed my suggestion of playing any eds player , then later i clarified the names who in my opinion should have made their debuts by now.

As i previously told you , i'm German and my boyhood club is Frankfurt , only in 2011-12 season we qualified for Bundesliga , so yes we have that syndrome of giving chance to young players , saw Razak live at Brighton(my apologies) when i was in London for studies , appeared to be a raw talent just like Sonny Kittel , and think he deserves more than 4-5 minutes and right guidance. I'm not a glory hunter since my club have experienced two relegations , once in 1997-1998 season when i was in Manchester and second one in 2011–12 .

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And yes the first game i attended was against Port Vale !!
 
Pablo1 said:
Master_Tactician said:
ban-mcfc said:
the time for stability is now IMO,

with the rags situation, we need constancy and to push on.

taking a risk on pellegrini isn't the answer. get the signings done and give mancini another whack at it.
With the rag's situation we need to strike while the iron's hot. They have a man in charge, being tutored by Fergie, who already schools Mancini almost every time they meet. Give him one Premiership trophy to settle and I'd predict that Utd will be equally as formidable if not more with Moyes as they are at the moment with Ferguson.

Hypothetically for yourself, what happens if we keep Mancini, we perform as inconsistently next season as this season and Mourinho has a similar impact at Chelsea as he did first time round? We're the third best team in England, changing manager at an even more disadvantageous time. My opinion is that that is the more likely scenario if we keep Mancini.
Ahh ain't you the optimist - it gets a bit desperate when you're predicting Utd will be more formidable with Moyes.
Hypothetically for yourself, what happens if we win the league and go far in CL? Will you still be here picking holes in his CC/FA cup failures or would you accept that bobby might not be the bumbling idiot that I'm sure you do?
If we win the league and go far in the Champions League then I'll eat my words with relish. Sadly it's reality we have to plan for, not fantasy. For the record I think Mancini is a good manager, just not great to match this squad.
 
sam663 said:
Pablo1 said:
The thing is he's just reeled of a load of names saying they deserve their chance when the truth is none of the above actually do. Not one of those mentioned has shown enough to be given premier league games. There's some potential and one or two who will forge a good career in the game but to say any of them should be playing regular for a team challenging at the top end of the league is batshit.

Show me where i said that they should be playing regularly , i replied to other poster who ridiculed my suggestion of playing any eds player , then later i clarified the names who in my opinion should have made their debuts by now.

As i previously told you , i'm German and my boyhood club is Frankfurt , only in 2011-12 season we qualified for Bundesliga , so yes we have that syndrome of giving chance to young players , saw Razak live at Crystal Palace when i was in London for studies , appeared to be a raw talent just like Sonny Kittel , and think he deserves more than 4-5 minutes and right guidance. I'm not a glory hunter since my club have experienced two relegations , once in 1997-1998 season when i was in Manchester and second one in 2011–12 .
But they're not good enough Sam, you can clarify as much as you like but the point remains that where we are in our development it's impossible to risk players just for the sake of it. Razak looks a prospect but still, not in the league. It's that simple - had they been pulling up trees in the EDS or at their loan clubs then fair enough, but as it stands they're unfortunately not.
 
moomba said:
Master_Tactician said:
ban-mcfc said:
mancini has proven he can win the league.

that's a must now for next year, i'm only putting him a head of pellegrini hear.

IMO we can't bring in an unproven (in england) manager now.

the rags have taken a huge risk, we shouldn't.
We did win it, but it was on goal difference, against a poor Manchester United squad. It might sound defeatist but I don't think we'll have it that easy next season.

A poor United squad that got one of the highest points tallies in their history.

I dont know why people keep pushing this myth.
Rags are generally the ones who keep pushing this myth
 
Master_Tactician said:
Pablo1 said:
Master_Tactician said:
With the rag's situation we need to strike while the iron's hot. They have a man in charge, being tutored by Fergie, who already schools Mancini almost every time they meet. Give him one Premiership trophy to settle and I'd predict that Utd will be equally as formidable if not more with Moyes as they are at the moment with Ferguson.

Hypothetically for yourself, what happens if we keep Mancini, we perform as inconsistently next season as this season and Mourinho has a similar impact at Chelsea as he did first time round? We're the third best team in England, changing manager at an even more disadvantageous time. My opinion is that that is the more likely scenario if we keep Mancini.
Ahh ain't you the optimist - it gets a bit desperate when you're predicting Utd will be more formidable with Moyes.
Hypothetically for yourself, what happens if we win the league and go far in CL? Will you still be here picking holes in his CC/FA cup failures or would you accept that bobby might not be the bumbling idiot that I'm sure you do?
If we win the league and go far in the Champions League then I'll eat my words with relish. Sadly it's reality we have to plan for, not fantasy. For the record I think Mancini is a good manager, just not great to match this squad.
It's a fantasy to think we can win the league next season and get to the Q/F - S/F of the CL? Give over.
 
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