Manchester City - tactical discussion

Yeah but we did totally boss that first half. Juventus went in at half time with their tail between their legs looking almost embarrased. I think the 2nd half was more equal if not unlucky for city. The stats say we were better, it was Italian Champs lge finalists. I think the tactics were good enough.

The tactics were fine, we made chances but just didn't put them away. We can't expect to make 10+ chances in a Champions League game, you have to take what you are given and we didn't.
 
Think you have to have that extra man in midfield like Delph or Fernando to make us more solid.

There's enough talent with the likes of Silva, Aguero and Sterling to get a goal. We've seen that having Nasri on the field slows down the play on 2 occasions this season.
Slowing down the play can have its advantages particularly when we need to hold on to a lead
 
If we had put our chances away and won comfortably, then in my book the tactics were spot on. saying they could have been better is using hindsight as their friend.
Not really. I looked at Nasri on the right before the first whistle, and I thought the right hand side would be a dead end, and more vulnerable.
Apart from Fernandinho, I can't think of a City player who looked comfortable, or at his usual level. I don't think our tactics and team selection were right, let alone spot on, but each to his own view.
 
Slowing down the play can have its advantages particularly when we need to hold on to a lead

Nasri does help with ball retention, I would have started with Navas on Tuesday. Having two quick wide men is where we've had success this season. Full backs and the people in front of them have to be alert to the threat all the time and opens up the middle for silva to have more space.

Nasri is a Rolls Royce player but he drifted into the middle to much. Juve loved that and played compact.

If prefer it if we played a bit more cautious in Europe instead of going all out trying to win a game. Hate to say it but Chelsea didn't do too bad in 2012 doing it that way.
 
Nasri does help with ball retention, I would have started with Navas on Tuesday. Having two quick wide men is where we've had success this season. Full backs and the people in front of them have to be alert to the threat all the time and opens up the middle for silva to have more space.

Nasri is a Rolls Royce player but he drifted into the middle to much. Juve loved that and played compact.

If prefer it if we played a bit more cautious in Europe instead of going all out trying to win a game. Hate to say it but Chelsea didn't do too bad in 2012 doing it that way.

Hang on, you want to go at them with pace out wide but you want us to be more cautious?
 
One way to look at it: They chocked us in midfield. Back four had no one to pass the ball to, so Silva, Nasri and Yaya had to retreat to receive the ball and end up stuck there. Their strikers put on a great shift chasing and breaking our play before it started. They played to draw, we should have sat deep after scoring the first goal and let them come out. This would have open them up. Issue is, when you have Nasri and Bony on the field, forget counter attacks.

Other way: Our tactics were spot on. We are just shit at converting. 3 glorious misses. That Bony slashing the ball was embarrassing, and so was the frail attempt by Sterling's in 2nd half. Had any of the three chances were converted, the game would have been put to bed. Juv got very lucky with their chances, their two goals were so borderline, both hit the post to get it. Either brilliant aim or luck.

Either way, its our fault, Nacho should have started ahead of Bony and KDB ahead of Nasri. This was obvious to many of us when teams were announced. But we don't know the exact situation with the players better than the manager.
 
One way to look at it: They chocked us in midfield. Back four had no one to pass the ball to, so Silva, Nasri and Yaya had to retreat to receive the ball and end up stuck there. Their strikers put on a great shift chasing and breaking our play before it started. They played to draw, we should have sat deep after scoring the first goal and let them come out. This would have open them up. Issue is, when you have Nasri and Bony on the field, forget counter attacks.

Other way: Our tactics were spot on. We are just shit at converting. 3 glorious misses. That Bony slashing the ball was embarrassing, and so was the frail attempt by Sterling's in 2nd half. Had any of the three chances were converted, the game would have been put to bed. Juv got very lucky with their chances, their two goals were so borderline, both hit the post to get it. Either brilliant aim or luck.

Either way, its our fault, Nacho should have started ahead of Bony and KDB ahead of Nasri. This was obvious to many of us when teams were announced. But we don't know the exact situation with the players better than the manager.

Nacho is not eligible to play in CL.
Nasri merited his starting spot given his performance at Palace.
 
Nacho is not eligible to play in CL.
Nasri merited his starting spot given his performance at Palace.

It's only the second or third thread he's said the same thing about Kelechi, so I don't think he's going to listen to ya ;-)
 

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