Mancini Almost Left To Manage Monaco

Interesting this coming from one of the most credible papers out there, no real quotes or references coming from it, wouldn't be like the guardian to make up such a story so must have some reasoning - smells fishy
 
No one knows if its true or not apart from him and a select few I would imagine.

Had he not won the league then I think he would have been sacked.

I think people who think he is here for the next 10 plus years are deluded. He will be here for as long as the owners think he can get us where they want us to be. Not where we want us to be, where they want us to be!

Whereas I am quite happy with top 3 every year and the odd bit of silverware thrown in, I doubt they will be.

Failure in the CL this season will lead to increased pressure for us to do well in the league again.

Failure next season in CL would lead to him going in my opinion.

Personally I dont blame him for keeping his options open as football is a very fickle business.
 
Danamy said:
BillyShears said:
Seosa said:
I love Bob whereas you're not a fan, Billy, but I think we agree that his position at the club has always been somewhat....fragile. I really wouldn't be surprised if Txiki & Soriano try to bring Guardiola in.

In this particular instance I am being a little more cynical than you think. I would suggest that there is only one club to benefit from getting us on the back pages and putting pressure on Mancini at this particular juncture in the season - and that's Chelsea. And surprise surprise, Monaco's owner and Roman go way way way back.

If this has anything to do with anyone associated with City then it's a disgrace and that person clearly doesn't have the club's best interests at heart.

Nah, I'm not having that theory Billy, if anything it's quite the opposite.

Chelsea will want Mancini to stay at City for as long as possible, they'll want first dibs on Pep when he gives the nod.

Do you think our ex-Barca duo will push for Pep?
 
The media especially the football media depend on a gullable public to survive. Most days they have fuck all to write about ....



so they make some bullshit up to make a column and sell a paper .



or they would be out of work !
 
The cost to sack Mancini and his highly paid backroom would be astronomical. Mancini's new deal itself is worth around £5million a year over 5 years then you have the likes of Lombardo, Gregucci, Platt, Salsano, Carminati, Battara, Cancellieri, and god knows who else who would all have to go (Kidd might survive). It's not feasible while we handle Financial Fair Play so there would be no reason I don't think for this leak to have come from within the club as it'll hardly cause Mancini to quit (the only way to avoid the massive payoffs).
 
Seosa said:
Danamy said:
BillyShears said:
In this particular instance I am being a little more cynical than you think. I would suggest that there is only one club to benefit from getting us on the back pages and putting pressure on Mancini at this particular juncture in the season - and that's Chelsea. And surprise surprise, Monaco's owner and Roman go way way way back.

If this has anything to do with anyone associated with City then it's a disgrace and that person clearly doesn't have the club's best interests at heart.

Nah, I'm not having that theory Billy, if anything it's quite the opposite.

Chelsea will want Mancini to stay at City for as long as possible, they'll want first dibs on Pep when he gives the nod.

Do you think our ex-Barca duo will push for Pep?

My personal opinion is they're very professional in there work and I imagine they're happy to work alongside Mancini until such time they're told to find a new employee.

IF both jobs were available I think Pep would sway more towards Chelsea than us but that's only because I know he's spoken to them in the past.
 
LoveCity said:
The cost to sack Mancini and his highly paid backroom would be astronomical. Mancini's new deal itself is worth around £5million a year over 5 years then you have the likes of Lombardo, Gregucci, Platt, Salsano, Carminati, Battara, Cancellieri, and god knows who else who would all have to go (Kidd might survive). It's not feasible while we handle Financial Fair Play so there would be no reason I don't think for this leak to have come from within the club as it'll hardly cause Mancini to quit (the only way to avoid the massive payoffs).

Mancini nearly walked in his final days at Inter only to be persuaded not to do so before being sacked, so if he felt uncomfortable to the point of no return, would he do the same again?
 
BillyShears said:
Seosa said:
I love Bob whereas you're not a fan, Billy, but I think we agree that his position at the club has always been somewhat....fragile. I really wouldn't be surprised if Txiki & Soriano try to bring Guardiola in.

In this particular instance I am being a little more cynical than you think. I would suggest that there is only one club to benefit from getting us on the back pages and putting pressure on Mancini at this particular juncture in the season - and that's Chelsea. And surprise surprise, Monaco's owner and Roman go way way way back.
And funnily enough, it was Guus Hiddink's agent who leaked the fact his client had been approached both before Hughes was sacked (and I think that news played a large part in the events that led to Hughes going) and then again in the summer. And GH and Abramovich are also mates.
 
When Mancini was sacked by Inter,for not performing well enough in the CL, I thought he didn't take another job so he could sue them for unfair dismissal.Iirc that case finished about a month before he joined City . Why would he go for a new job if he felt he was in the same situation with us?
Maybe its me being thick but I can't see it.
 
If this was utter bullshit, the club could release a statement saying so. The fact that the club have gone down the "no comment" route, say's to me there is some truth in the Guardian article!

If it is true, it doesn't surprise me, Mancini has to look after himself and he probably didn't have any job security until the title was won, can't really blame the guy, for listening to other offers, just incase.

Does make you think maybe, just maybe this story has come out via a newly formed Spanish contingent in Manchester, who could be courting the idea of getting there pal Pep to join them once again. (nah can't be that).....
 
Lomas has a lob on said:
If this was utter bullshit, the club could release a statement saying so. The fact that the club have gone down the "no comment" route, say's to me there is some truth in the Guardian article!

If it is true, it doesn't surprise me, Mancini has to look after himself and he probably didn't have any job security until the title was won, can't really blame the guy, for listening to other offers, just incase.

Does make you think maybe, just maybe this story has come out via a newly formed Spanish contingent in Manchester, who could be courting the idea of getting there pal Pep to join them once again. (nah can't be that).....

Mancini said in an interview or a press conference around the start of the season that he was worried for his job if he did not win the title during the QPR game.

Like you said, he has to look after himself - being at the top is tough luck in modern management and you can be shown the door at anytime, no matter the guarantee from your chariman or owner.
 
Not surprised at all; he could well have walked if we hadn't won the league. After the Arsenal defeat he was - in some people's eyes - a dead man walking. He knows the expectations the owners have of him.
More interesting is that this corroborates recent comments in The Times saying that Bobby does not have unflinching support at the club - though there's no suggestion that he or the owners want out.
I suspect the next few months could be critical to Bobby's long term future given the recent board appointments; he's effectively working under a director of football when we are led to believe that he wanted total control over footy affairs, including player acquisition.
 
LoveCity said:
The cost to sack Mancini and his highly paid backroom would be astronomical. Mancini's new deal itself is worth around £5million a year over 5 years then you have the likes of Lombardo, Gregucci, Platt, Salsano, Carminati, Battara, Cancellieri, and god knows who else who would all have to go (Kidd might survive). It's not feasible while we handle Financial Fair Play so there would be no reason I don't think for this leak to have come from within the club as it'll hardly cause Mancini to quit (the only way to avoid the massive payoffs).

Just like Pardews big contract at Newcastle, Mancini will have so many clauses put in that it sways towards the owners side.

You never know if that retaining the league this season is a clause, he could fail to retain the league this season and the owners will have every right to sack him with a low compensation or no compensation fee if they have put such a clause in, which in my opinion they just might have done so - or getting out of the Champions League group, you just don't know.

Mancini's contract will never be in favour of him, only his wages will favour him, if anything the clauses in that contract are there to make him under pressure to succeed, thats what you should expect being at the top.
 
sam-caddick said:
LoveCity said:
The cost to sack Mancini and his highly paid backroom would be astronomical. Mancini's new deal itself is worth around £5million a year over 5 years then you have the likes of Lombardo, Gregucci, Platt, Salsano, Carminati, Battara, Cancellieri, and god knows who else who would all have to go (Kidd might survive). It's not feasible while we handle Financial Fair Play so there would be no reason I don't think for this leak to have come from within the club as it'll hardly cause Mancini to quit (the only way to avoid the massive payoffs).

Just like Pardews big contract at Newcastle, Mancini will have so many clauses put in that it sways towards the owners side.

You never know if that retaining the league this season is a clause, he could fail to retain the league this season and the owners will have every right to sack him with a low compensation or no compensation fee if they have put such a clause in, which in my opinion they just might have done so - or getting out of the Champions League group, you just don't know.

Mancini's contract will never be in favour of him, only his wages will favour him, if anything the clauses in that contract are there to make him under pressure to succeed, thats what you should expect being at the top.

Agree!
 
BillyShears said:
Seosa said:
I love Bob whereas you're not a fan, Billy, but I think we agree that his position at the club has always been somewhat....fragile. I really wouldn't be surprised if Txiki & Soriano try to bring Guardiola in.

In this particular instance I am being a little more cynical than you think. I would suggest that there is only one club to benefit from getting us on the back pages and putting pressure on Mancini at this particular juncture in the season - and that's Chelsea. And surprise surprise, Monaco's owner and Roman go way way way back.

If this has anything to do with anyone associated with City then it's a disgrace and that person clearly doesn't have the club's best interests at heart.

So you've got the triads fixing, in some way, 6 out of 10 prem games and now the the Russians are running the Guardian. The Cosa Nostra are running protection at the Summerbee Bar too.
 
The contract terms regarding payment and duration rely upon on other terms such as performance-related termination.

I'll take it out of lawyer-speak and say that the employer almost invariably wins, because ex-employees can usually be bought off. Such is life.

The much-quoted 5 year deal for Bobby is meaningless. Like us, the bosses are only concerned with what we can develop, achieve and, most importantly, win.

Bobby will go one day, a day near or far. Until then, we should all support him. To question his delivery to-date is to require perfection, in my view. Your opinion is a matter for you. CTID
 

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