Mancini blames Hart for defeat

[InMyLifetime-BaconChops]

It's the fucking Sun. EVerything said is bullshit.

They made up some story of Aguero saving up McDonalds vouchers, and wouldn't pay for them. I mean what the fuck? He wouldn't even go to McDonalds ffs.

 

[mick10]

For starters, I don't care what you would have said to JH. You're not their manager.

Mancini, if he did say to Hart "that was your fault", is totally in the wrong. Hart wasn't anymore culpable for any of the goals than any other defensive player. It's a manifest nonsense to claim it was his fault. I can point to three or four people who could've dealt with the situations leading up to each goal. This is football, and sometimes you have to credit the opposition because one pass, or one touch, at the highest level, can kill you and leave your defenders for dead. Had Vinny and Zaba not run into each other like keystone cops, the first goal doesn't go in. If Rafael doesn't play the perfect pass into Rooney, the second goal doesn't happen. If Nasri simply stands upright and doesn't move, the third goal doesn't go in.

Are you serious or are you taking the piss? If everyone did their jobs in football then the game would end up 0-0 all the time. Players make mistakes, plenty of them throughout the game.

Nasri was at fault for the 3rd goal but he would never have been put into that position if Hart had commanded his area better, did he scream for the ball from Clichy to clear down field? No. Did he demand Clichy to clear it? No. He did nothing, he waited for Clichy to take command until it was too late. He was at fault simple as that. It's his box, he should command it.

Not really. So every player is exactly the same standard. Nope. If we played West Ham,and they did their jobs to the best of their ability, and we did ours to the best of ours, we would win, and West Ham are a decent team. So I don't understand your point, at all.

An impossible request really isn't it? Perfection. Everyone perform to their total ability everytime. Can't, and won't ever be done. Ever.
I think on your reckoning there,about standards and ability that would mean us or united would constantly win and the lesser teams than us would beat the lesser teams of them and so on and so on. Wouldn't be a point playing!
We're human and nothing especially humans are perfect.

 

[SWP's back]

Its not just about the free kick , Starting Balo and leaving Nasri for 90 minutes.

WHat did Balotelli do wrong in the first half? He was more alive that fucking Aguero.

I don't agree with that, mate.

Whilst I actually thought Mario played fairly well in the first half and was certainly putting himself about, Aguero worked his bollocks off all game. It's just his finishing which is letting himself down at the moment.

Saying that, when Mario went off, Tevez looked very good and did make people thing "Why didn't he start"?

As did Mario first half, whether you could see that on your TV or not.

No one in the ground (that I spoke to) thought Mario should be coming off when we were chatting at half time. We all wanted rid of Nasri for Tevez, and that is what should have happened.

 

[Anonymous]

Clichy was facing Joe Hart with Welbeck breathing down his neck, if he had to clear the ball upfield he would have to beat beat Welbeck to turn facing the right way. Clichy asks Joe does he want it and theres no real command from Joe that tells him YES. Like i said it's his box, anything in that box is his especially when at the time there is two players in the box with him and we are in possession of the ball.

Agree with the last point but that is a situation that he would never have found himself in if Hart had commanded his box.

I take your point about Joe being more commanding, but I'm still not ready to make him culpable for the goal. Too much went on after the point at which he could've told Clichy to clear it.

 

[SWP's back]

Yep, I'd drop Yaya for a game or two. If this is his way of saying he wants to match Silvas wages, he isn't going about it the right way. Either that, or never, ever play him deep. And I'd play Milner next to Barry, in answer to your question.

Yep, probably was Marwood.

If you think we are playing the same as last season you are deluded. Same system maybe, though it looks a lot slower. Why does it look slower- players aren't performing. Ultimately, whose job is it to get the best out of the players- the Managers. Ferguson does it year on year, Mancini is yet to get the best out of this team this season, and we are half way through it.

No one knows for certain that it was Marwood.

I was not talking about last season.

This season this is our record

P 23 W9 D9 L5

Not that great really is it?

It is clear to anyone with eyes who watches the games that something aint right this season and whilst we did play well in parts yesterday, we still shipped 3 goals,all of which were preventable.

Why include CC and CL in there?

If you do the same for this stage last season, it is comparable.

 

[Anonymous]

No one in the ground (that I spoke to) thought Mario should be coming off when we were chatting at half time. We all wanted rid of Nasri for Tevez, and that is what should have happened.

What do you think enraged Mancini so much then ?

 

[dancity19]

Are you serious or are you taking the piss? If everyone did their jobs in football then the game would end up 0-0 all the time. Players make mistakes, plenty of them throughout the game.

Nasri was at fault for the 3rd goal but he would never have been put into that position if Hart had commanded his area better, did he scream for the ball from Clichy to clear down field? No. Did he demand Clichy to clear it? No. He did nothing, he waited for Clichy to take command until it was too late. He was at fault simple as that. It's his box, he should command it.

Not really. So every player is exactly the same standard. Nope. If we played West Ham,and they did their jobs to the best of their ability, and we did ours to the best of ours, we would win, and West Ham are a decent team. So I don't understand your point, at all.

An impossible request really isn't it? Perfection. Everyone perform to their total ability everytime. Can't, and won't ever be done. Ever.
I think on your reckoning there,about standards and ability that would mean us or united would constantly win and the lesser teams than us would beat the lesser teams of them and so on and so on. Wouldn't be a point playing!
We're human and nothing especially humans are perfect.

I never said it would happen, as it obviously wouldn't. I was responding to the comment that if everyone did their jobs in football the game would end up 0-0 which simply isn't true. As one team would have the better players to do the job better.

 

[Damanino]

hart is making a step (mini jump) to the left just right when RVP touches the ball. Dont know why.

 

[dancity19]

Yep, I'd drop Yaya for a game or two. If this is his way of saying he wants to match Silvas wages, he isn't going about it the right way. Either that, or never, ever play him deep. And I'd play Milner next to Barry, in answer to your question.

Yep, probably was Marwood.

If you think we are playing the same as last season you are deluded. Same system maybe, though it looks a lot slower. Why does it look slower- players aren't performing. Ultimately, whose job is it to get the best out of the players- the Managers. Ferguson does it year on year, Mancini is yet to get the best out of this team this season, and we are half way through it.

No one knows for certain that it was Marwood.

I was not talking about last season.

This season this is our record

P 23 W9 D9 L5

Not that great really is it?

It is clear to anyone with eyes who watches the games that something aint right this season and whilst we did play well in parts yesterday, we still shipped 3 goals,all of which were preventable.

Why include CC and CL in there?

If you do the same for this stage last season, it is comparable.

How on earth would it be comparable. We actually won 3 games last year in the Champions League, and only lost 2. Likewise, we weren't knocked out of the CC at this stage last season. So how would it be comparable...??

 

[Anonymous]

Could we please not post .gifs of that goal. It's making a difficult morning even more difficult.