Mancini Breaking News Part 4

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Looks like Damocles has just turned up at the Etihad:

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Cheadle Blue said:
MSP said:
Cheadle Blue said:
check twtter out, a single city fan staging a protest outside the ground with a banner...my god as if this couldn't get any more embarrassing

Pam to join him as we speak :)

thanks to social media, i have already had 3 emaisl and 2 texts about it from rags, thanks alot you fucking bell end whoever you are

Laugh it with them mate, why would you care about actions of some tosser.
 
BlueCityfan said:
Even Inter Milan fans think he is slightly overrated. And he won them more trophies than he did for City. His CV certainly did benefit from the Calciopoli scandal. He is rated way too high by some here. While Pellegrini is being unfairly undermined.

I think the problem is people are comparing him to the likes of Royle, Ball, Reid etc. (all managers in the recent memory) which is just plain daft as they didn't have the huge resources at their disposal than Mancini has had - I love Bobby and will always be grafeful for what he's done, but I still get this nagging feeling that we're under-achieving under his management.
 
pudge said:
Forget behind the scenes politics, City should come first.

I agree. However.

How many club employees has Mancini publicly slagged off, and how many times has he played politics in the press with our board members? Did he put City first?

Live by the sword die by the sword.
 
Didsbury Dave said:
Looks like Damocles has just turned up at the Etihad:

<a class="postlink" href="https://twitter.com/DanielHewittITV/status/333954953011920897/photo/1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">https://twitter.com/DanielHewittITV/sta ... 97/photo/1</a>

Where's his famous sword?
 
Mancini will be fine until Geoff Shreeves turns up. Then that's when he needs to panic as Shreeves tells him he does not have a job next year
 
FanchesterCity said:
Lancet Fluke said:
BillyShears said:
Mancini said Vicky should've done more to stop the stories. Even the journos were surprised by this comment and suggested it was the board's job to give her the mandate to quash the stories and they hadn't so Vicky's hands were tired - which is true.

It's also worth noting that Mancini isn't some wet behind the ears kid who doesn't understand the way the press work or the way big political football clubs like City work. He will have known why the stories weren't being squashed. Again he could've asked Ferran or Khaldoun to instruct Vicky to kill the stories.

What is coming to light is that Mancini's relationship was so poor with so many people behind the scenes that communication was almost non existent.

It seems to be reasonably well accepted that Mancini is not a particularly nice guy. Any interviews with ex team mates from his playing days confirm this, they all talk of him being an extremely difficult person. Now I know he isn't at the club to be everyone's best mate but the bottom line is that if he has pissed off large parts of the playing squad and plenty of his colleagues at the club (and potentially the decision makers above him) then he is completely reliant on being successful on the pitch to keep his job. It seems pretty obvious to me from the way the club have handled this that there is little or no goodwill towards Mancini at the club and now performances on the pitch have dipped significantly, he's fucked.

Disagree with that, plenty of people support him. It's true they say he's not exactly 'best mates' with everybody, but neither is/was Ferguson. Both have the attitude that THEY are the boss, and you either accept it, or don't play / leave.

One man's steely determination is another's stubbornness - often depending on the result they achieve.

There's are some 'nice guys' out there too, ones that might capitulate to a strong willed player. Is that what we want? Maybe we do?

I'm not saying Mancini's attitude is right or wrong, merely that when results aren't going well, the manager will either be too soft or too stubborn, and when results are going well, those attributes are applauded.

He is what he is, and it's who City chose. Mancini didn't choose City, they chose him. They did their homework, right? They knew his manner last year when they offered a new deal, right? Has he changed his tune, or have Manchester City changed theirs?

I think it's been a disappointing but not disastrous season. We've had a dip. The fans are upset at results and speculation, and I suspect the club itself is rather torn on what to do for the best.

I think it's wise for the club and the fans to take a deep breath, look at the league table, secure second place, KNOW we are in CL once AGAIN for next year, and look forward to freshening up parts of the team. We've had a dip in form, not a death in the family.

Keep calm and carry on Manchester City... 3 years ago I'd have more than settled for what Mancini's brought us. I see no reason to now think it's not enough.

Well if there are plenty of people at the club who support him then it isn't being reflected in the way the club have handled things. As many have said, he has been hung out to dry and that indicates to me that the people who matter at the club have no good will towards him at all. I'm sure lots of his coaching staff who he chose will be supportive of him, of course they wil,l but they don't matter in the scheme of things because they will just be gone too when he goes. I don't think being a decent person and being successful have to be mutually exclusive. Yes I'm sure ferguson was capable of bollocking people when they needed it but the thing that has always come out about ferguson is that he knew everyone at the club personally, whatever their status and largely treated them with respect. Anyway, he managed to motivate people at his club one way or another for 25 years and have sustained success whereas it doesnt take a genius to spot that large parts of the playing squad have had enough of Mancini after a relatively short space of time and are no longer sufficiently motivated by him and it is seeming that plenty of others at the club who matter are not particularly enamoured with him either so any comparison between him and ferguson in terms of relationships at their clubs is ridiculous imo.
 
Didsbury Dave said:
Looks like Damocles has just turned up at the Etihad:

<a class="postlink" href="https://twitter.com/DanielHewittITV/status/333954953011920897/photo/1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">https://twitter.com/DanielHewittITV/sta ... 97/photo/1</a>

Red paint? Jeeees!
 
Have we learnt nothing from the past. In previous times the people in charge did things badly, and again it's same. If they are getting rid of Mancini ( and I don't think we should ) then do it and not drag it out. Be professional and tell Mancini to his face NOW!
I say to all you out there who think Mancini should go remember this "be careful what YOU wish for".
 
pudge said:
BillyShears said:
pudge said:
That's twice in as many days the club left him a sitting duck, and it cost them.

Alright. Lets work on the basis that everyone at the club - from Khaldoun downwards, woke up on Saturday morning and thought "fuck it, lets leave Mancini hanging in today's press conference and give him no assurances about his job and no support from ourselves."

If they did do that then they must dislike him pretty intensely. They were all in town, and will have all woken to the same headlines we woke to. With Hughes the reason given for him having to take charge against Sunderland was that Khaldoun wanted to tell him face to face and therefore it was delayed until he arrived in the UK even though we all knew it was coming. This wasn't the case on Saturday. Anyone from the hierarchy at City could've spoken to Vicky and made Mancini's day easier.

Sometimes you can glean more from someone's inaction, than from their action.
Vicky Kloss isn't the inanimate puppet you are making her out to be.

It's her job to brief and handle the press. Especially in situations such as post game interviews when club stances can't be discussed from higher up.

To stand back and allow the questions, that Balti has highlighted, was poor. She's there to deal with those exact circumstances.

As for issuing a statement, it was unprofessional of the CLUB to let the manager be undermined and under pressure on the eve, and day, of our biggest game of he season.

Forget behind the scenes politics, City should come first.

Spot on.

A press conference is where you open yourself up to probing questions - and you should anticipate what many of those questions might be. You should have credible answers for almost all of them (if you've done your homework) and you should know where the boundaries lie in terms of acceptable behaviour from the press.

That's not to say you should try to dictate the agenda. Merely to be firm and consistent in what you'll answer and what you will not, but NOT allow your manager to face the same questions over and over.... and over again.

A PR officer should step in and be firm. "The question is answered, MOVE ON". That simply hasn't answered.

It doesn't matter if someone's title is PR officer / Media Relations Manager or otherwise. If you're not contributing to that Press Conference, why are you there?

We can't stop the media reporting as they see fit. We can dictate our response to it. If we have chosen not to respond, then so be it, but I get the distinct impression the lack of response is indicative of lack of preparation / foresight and nothing more.

It's not beyond the wit of man to know that being seen dining with an agent will lead to speculation.
It's not beyond the wit of man to know that the press will question City's performance this year (just as they will Chelsea and Spurs, and Arsenal and Liverpool etc).
It's not beyond the wit of man to know that the press will speculate over transfers and managers.

This isn't our finest hour on the pitch, nor off it.
 
pominoz said:
samharris said:
pominoz said:
Again it begs the question, why would they do that if everything is rosey in the garden?
Save your bile until the facts come out.

Bile ??

May have been the wrong word to use in response EDLS, but some on here are getting hysterical.
I have read posts that the owner is a "soulless ****" and that posters are done with City if Mancini goes.
Get a fucking grip everyone, and wait till we know what has been going on.

I've not been over the top in my posts and don't put words in my mouth, please.

I happen to like Mancini and as this is a board for posting opinions I will used it as a forum to voice my support for a man who I feel is being despicably treated. If they want rid, fair enough. But do it with dignity.
 
MCFC-Scott said:
Can someone tell that winnet outside the eithad to go home, he's embarrassing us.
A bit late for that. We've been caught with our pants down because of the Spanish amigos. Well done guys.
 
Didsbury Dave said:
Looks like Damocles has just turned up at the Etihad:

<a class="postlink" href="https://twitter.com/DanielHewittITV/status/333954953011920897/photo/1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">https://twitter.com/DanielHewittITV/sta ... 97/photo/1</a>
HAHAHAHAHA WTF?
 
MSP said:
Cheadle Blue said:
MSP said:
Pam to join him as we speak :)

thanks to social media, i have already had 3 emaisl and 2 texts about it from rags, thanks alot you fucking bell end whoever you are

Laugh it with them mate, why would you care about actions of some tosser.

i care when the abuse is just about calming down for the day, then this dickhead appears, giving them more ammo, what a **** he is
 
Didsbury Dave said:
Looks like Damocles has just turned up at the Etihad:

<a class="postlink" href="https://twitter.com/DanielHewittITV/status/333954953011920897/photo/1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">https://twitter.com/DanielHewittITV/sta ... 97/photo/1</a>

Posing for the media as they lap it up. Brilliant.
 
Moonmir said:
MCFC-Scott said:
Can someone tell that winnet outside the eithad to go home, he's embarrassing us.
He might save Mancini's job, lol :D

Hahaha Did he really think he'd save Mancini on his own with a message written on his bed sheets.
 
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