SkyBlueFlux
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mike channon´s windmill said:Balti said:SkyBlueFlux said:Whether he ends up at the club or not, I think it's in rather poor taste for people to be belittling Pellegrini's achievements.
He has done extremely well under some very undesirable circumstances. He has taken teams into the quarter finals of the Champions League who wouldn't normally stand a chance, he's always finished strongly in the league and to get 96 points with Real Madrid and not win La Liga is incredibly unfortunate.
I'm not saying he's going to lead us into a new era of club success or anything drastic. I'm just saying he's clearly a very competent manager and deserves the respect that comes with that.
Maybe so
But in the context of this discussion his record and that of Mancini are relevant.........
Pellegrini:
Universidad Católica Copa Interamericana : 1994
Copa Chile : 1995
LDU Quito Serie A : 1998–99
San Lorenzo Primera División : 2000–01
Copa Mercosur : 2001
River Plate Primera División : 2002–03
Villarreal UEFA Intertoto Cup : 2004
Mancini:
Fiorentina Coppa Italia : 2000–01
Lazio Coppa Italia : 2003–04
Internazionale Serie A : 2005–06
Internazionale Serie A : 2006–07
Internazionale Serie A : 2007–08
Coppa Italia : 2004–05
Coppa Italia : 2005–06
Supercoppa Italiana: 2005
Coppa Italia : 2006
Premier League : 2011–12
FA Cup : 2010–11
FA Community Shield: 2012
And Bobby is eleven years younger and hasn't finished yet.....
This doesn't really feel like an upgrade so far does it?
I have to agree
It is a massive gamble as much as I think Bob has lost it this is not the right replacement. Would be better another year than this guy imo but hey-ho
A gamble, yeah it is, you won't hear me disagreeing with that.
That said you can't condense this down into how many trophies they've each won, because their circumstances are so different. Pellegrini has only been managing in Europe for 9 years, so length of career has little to do with it.
The difference is Mancini has had some excellent opportunities with some very good teams and he's done well and won trophies. Pellegrini has done very well with some teams of a slightly lower pedigree, but never really had a proper crack of the whip with a big team. Real got rid of him rather unjustly in my eyes, after just one year.
So yes it does appear to be a gamble, but if the board see this guy as a step towards their ultimate objectives, I trust that they've done the necessary research and that they know more than I do about what it is they're trying to achieve.
The truth is, lots of good and able managers never get the opportunity to win trophies. That's just the way football works.