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Balti said:
Pellegrini:

has won just one trophy in all his time in Europe
an intertoto cup
is 60 years old this year
has had more clubs than arnold palmer
currently has a win rate of less than 40%

yes he managed real madrid for a season but despite buying all those galacticos like kaka, ronaldo, benzema, alonso etc and still didn't win the title

he has however got a team further in the champions league than Bobby has managed before seeing them get knocked out

on the other hand Bobby is eleven years younger and has won ten bits of silverware in two of Europes toughest leagues in the last decade since Pellegrini won his sole Inter Toto trophy

not really an obvious 'upgrade' is it?

ahhh but he plays a better brand of flair football they say

well so do Arsenal and they struggle to qualify for the champions league these days let alone win anything.....and to our owners the need to win silverware is apparently paramount

so you could therefore understand that if Bobby's face does not fit in the corridors of power that we might be out there offering the earth to one of the truly big hitters in world football management

but this guy?????????

if they can't get the big hitter now then they should swallow their pride and doubts and set Bobby some clear new targets on both performance and perhaps even style; allow him the time and money to bring in the calibre of player he was not allowed to bring in last close season; and back him for the time being

we have seen what he is capable of and no he is not perfect

but given events at the swamp now would be a good time to squeeze the best out of a proven Premier League winner rather than opting for another period of uncertainty, re-build and transition

I say back him, properly back him, and set clear expectations about what is expected of him i.e. the league title and progress beyond the group stages in the champs league if he wants to remain beyond next season

And stop allowing the medja to undermine him the way they have. Control the medja interaction in the way that the rags did with baconface. That works both ways.

all this bollox about being a prickly character well look across town and see that it didn't stop baconface bringing in a record haul and even that twat had barren seasons

and finally if it's a choice between the manager and someone like Marwood because they can't work together then bin fricking Marwood and find someone else who can



^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^This^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Can't argue with anything thats said here.
 
My take on all this is that it is probably the right time for City and Mancini to part ways. I am not convinced he is the man to improve our performances for next season, and he seems to have lost the support and the confidence of both the board and the players. However I remain to be convinced that Pellegrini is the right man to do that. He hasn't really got a record of winning trophies, in Europe at least, and at 59 he's hardly a young manager yet to prove himself on that front. His record in Europe with Malaga and Villarreal is admirable, and a similar run would be much welcomed at City, but winning the title back should be priority number one.
 
All ov a sudden weve got football experts saying how good pelligrinni is, come on giv your fuckin heads a wobble the has a shit cv and has won fuck all so dont start making out hes the new special one! The clubs made a rite fuck up we all ended up goin to wembley to watch a team that had been told the manager was leaving, why do that before a cup final fukin dogshit city whoever is involved.
 
BluessinceHydeRoad said:
The rumours/stories over the past week have not been simply that City are seeking to replace Mancini, but are much more specific; that Soriano and Begiristain have identified Pellegrini as the best man to work as head coach with Begiristain as the director of football so that all coaching at the club would be coordinated. These stories gave the press the double edged weapon they wanted - a blade to undermine the club at a crucial period whilst giving the opportunity to attack the club by defending the record of their target.

Our club's policy is not to comment on rumour and only to make an announcement when there is something to announce. This is an admirable policy, but only 99% of the time, and the 1% when it is a disaster was last week. Our team arrived at Wembley on Saturday afternoon looking as though it had just lost a relegation dogfight and not as though it was about to contest a cup final. Vinnie stormed onto the pitch, hands in pockets, looking sour and angry. Other players looked flat and drained. Mancini looked miserable. The press had done its work well, City were leaden legged and sapped of morale: Roberto was even heavy limbed on the touch line. We didn't play and Wigan won deservedly. I respect the players for stating that they would not blame the rumours about the manager for the defeat, and I'm not going to argue that Wigan owe the cup to them - I applaud Wigan for their success - but our players wouldn't have beaten anyone on Saturday.

By Sunday morning it was done and dusted. Mancini was history, sacked within 48 hours, Pellegrini was even seen at terminal 3 of M'cr airport in the late afternoon, Hansen was explaining why Mancini deserved the sack (unlike his great mate at Liverpool) and the usual crew on here were explaining why Pellegrini, Klopp, Mourinho or, well anyone in fact, would have bettered Mancini's record since Dec 2009. And then Pellegrini turned up at Malaga's match last night, and said he was not the manager of City, he had had no contact with the club, that he had a clause in his contract with Malaga not to talk to anyone and that this was the time of the year for this kind of gossip.

The only other person to speak out is Roberto Mancini and he dismissed the rumours as "rubbish" and criticised the PR department and Vicky in particular. I have to agree with him. I cannot believe the men at our club would be negotiating contracts to replace the manager in the week of a cup final. Failure to quash these rumours has, possibly, cost us the cup - we would at least have pushed a very good Wigan team a bit harder! They have done, and are still doing, our club great harm. I think a statement saying that Roberto has a contract with 4 years to run and the club intends to honour it. If they won't do this they should explain why they are trying to replace him.

Welcome to our brave new world of our latest double act - Trixi & Dixi!
If this is the sign of things to come then Peter Swales was 'a talented PR guru' and Thaksin Sinawatra was a 'media genius'.
What a complete and total fuck up this saga has been.
'Cups for cock ups' - we aint seen anything yet lads!
 
Ifwecouldjust....... said:
Balti said:
Pellegrini:

has won just one trophy in all his time in Europe
an intertoto cup
is 60 years old this year
has had more clubs than arnold palmer
currently has a win rate of less than 40%

yes he managed real madrid for a season but despite buying all those galacticos like kaka, ronaldo, benzema, alonso etc and still didn't win the title

he has however got a team further in the champions league than Bobby has managed before seeing them get knocked out

on the other hand Bobby is eleven years younger and has won ten bits of silverware in two of Europes toughest leagues in the last decade since Pellegrini won his sole Inter Toto trophy

not really an obvious 'upgrade' is it?

ahhh but he plays a better brand of flair football they say

well so do Arsenal and they struggle to qualify for the champions league these days let alone win anything.....and to our owners the need to win silverware is apparently paramount

so you could therefore understand that if Bobby's face does not fit in the corridors of power that we might be out there offering the earth to one of the truly big hitters in world football management

but this guy?????????

if they can't get the big hitter now then they should swallow their pride and doubts and set Bobby some clear new targets on both performance and perhaps even style; allow him the time and money to bring in the calibre of player he was not allowed to bring in last close season; and back him for the time being

we have seen what he is capable of and no he is not perfect

but given events at the swamp now would be a good time to squeeze the best out of a proven Premier League winner rather than opting for another period of uncertainty, re-build and transition

I say back him, properly back him, and set clear expectations about what is expected of him i.e. the league title and progress beyond the group stages in the champs league if he wants to remain beyond next season

And stop allowing the medja to undermine him the way they have. Control the medja interaction in the way that the rags did with baconface. That works both ways.

all this bollox about being a prickly character well look across town and see that it didn't stop baconface bringing in a record haul and even that twat had barren seasons

and finally if it's a choice between the manager and someone like Marwood because they can't work together then bin fricking Marwood and find someone else who can



^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^This^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Can't argue with anything thats said here.


exactly this +++++++++++++++++++++++
 
lordloverocket said:
All ov a sudden weve got football experts saying how good pelligrinni is, come on giv your fuckin heads a wobble the has a shit cv and has won fuck all so dont start making out hes the new special one! The clubs made a rite fuck up we all ended up goin to wembley to watch a team that had been told the manager was leaving, why do that before a cup final fukin dogshit city whoever is involved.

Anyone who writes shit like that needs not to be taken seriously.
 
scousemanc said:
Aguero_Element said:
this thread was started by the mancini haters to try and get more converts to their sick cult

It's possible to not hate Mancini but at the same time believe he has made a lot of mistakes

MANUre won precisely jack shit last season. And were the RagMeedya to organise a detailed postmortem they would undoubtedly be able to write up a couple of sides of A4 outlining Ferguson's 'mistakes'! We have had incredible success with Mancini and this season we have achieved more than MANUre did last! So for all the 'mistakes' Mancini has made, he gets the toe-end and Ferguson the plaudits. Ah, well, I suppose it's the way the football world works!
 
lordloverocket said:
All ov a sudden weve got football experts saying how good pelligrinni is, come on giv your fuckin heads a wobble the has a shit cv and has won fuck all so dont start making out hes the new special one! The clubs made a rite fuck up we all ended up goin to wembley to watch a team that had been told the manager was leaving, why do that before a cup final fukin dogshit city whoever is involved.

To be fair to him, if that scotch **** of a linesman had flagged that offside goal, Malaga would be in the champions league final.
 
lordloverocket said:
All ov a sudden weve got football experts saying how good pelligrinni is, come on giv your fuckin heads a wobble the has a shit cv and has won fuck all so dont start making out hes the new special one! The clubs made a rite fuck up we all ended up goin to wembley to watch a team that had been told the manager was leaving, why do that before a cup final fukin dogshit city whoever is involved.

Bullcrap. We played Wigan the same way we did several weeks ago, only with a bit more energy and commitment. Unfortunately, Wigan were light years better and played out Martinez's strategy perfectly. We had a player sent off, and they took advantage with a goal off a set-piece in stoppage time.
 
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