Mancini Breaking News

[taconinja]

Shame this is being dragged out like this. Would really prefer the club to just make it official, and then negotiate the details in their own time.

It's hard to know what to make of what's happened in the last few days. I'm obviously glad he's going, I'd be a hypocrite to say otherwise. I'm disappointed that it's unfolding like this. If it's true that nobody (Khaldoun, Ferran etc) had given Mancini a clue that his job was in danger in the last couple of months, particularly in light of all the speculation, then thats unfortunate. However Mancini's a clever man who's been around the block enough time to know this is football.

Haha presume the "this is football" was intentional!
Agree-wish we could hear something. I am a little disappointed that we have barely heard anything from sorriano or txiki since they arrived. Think we may have to wait until tomorrow now though.....

If the quotes out of Italy have been translated correctly, the club have told Mancini that they're sacking him but would like him to see out the last two games. He has not decided one way or the other yet whether he will or he won't, so I guess we'll know tomorrow. Hope he does see the season out as it'll be a real fucking shame if this gets so bitter that everyone doesn't get to give him a proper send off and thank him for everything he's done.

Precisely. Then we need a manager in as quickly as possible while the owner reviews the chairman. If the chairman is found to be up to snuff (I assume he will be) then the chairman needs to seriously review those below him and be ruthless.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

He was ambushed. What choice did he have?

That Kloss woman should have controlled the interview. The fact that she allowed him to be grilled like while she was in the room speaks volumes.

and oh surprise surprise it appears that she's Marwood's toady

if she'd have done her job properly than he'd never been asked those questions in the first place

I take your point and her position should be looked at, but he is a manager. He is paid to manage situations. This means that he cannot always say what he is thinking. He may have said it as he knows he is a gonner; however, the club could look at breach of contract for some of those comments!

how convenient some might say

on the other hand he might well have a case for constructive dismissal

either way the club should have managed this situation far far better than this

the manager deserves more respect and all this should have been done behind the scenes and a smooth managed professional transition put in place with the press finding out when it was all a done deal

Swales would have done no worse than this tbf

Ah well.....just like old times

''Typical City'' lol

We are assuming that the PR team are in the loop.

If they aren't, then the issue is communication between Bob and the board.
Mancini is a winner, there's no denying that; however, his communication style is primitive to say the least. Even as a player he portrayed the same arrogance as he is doing now. He was an exceptional footballer and I believe his problem is that he can't see why people can't see the game in the same way he can. Whilst he portrays a winning mentality which conveys to the players, he has begun to alienate them by not having the ability to see the game from their point of view.

 

[NQCitizen]

Haha presume the "this is football" was intentional!
Agree-wish we could hear something. I am a little disappointed that we have barely heard anything from sorriano or txiki since they arrived. Think we may have to wait until tomorrow now though.....

If the quotes out of Italy have been translated correctly, the club have told Mancini that they're sacking him but would like him to see out the last two games. He has not decided one way or the other yet whether he will or he won't, so I guess we'll know tomorrow. Hope he does see the season out as it'll be a real fucking shame if this gets so bitter that everyone doesn't get to give him a proper send off and thank him for everything he's done.

That's my wish too- as much as I think it's time to go, the club should do exactly that.

It would be mental to cut him off week before the end of the season unless he decides to do that. In that case club would be clean and would do it as it should be done and he would be bitter.

I know clubs are businesses and all that but it would be deeply insulting to the fans not to let them cheer off mancini against Norwich. The last two games are fairly inconsequential and we / he deserves that for his role in a great chapter in the clubs history.

 

[Anonymous]

That's my wish too- as much as I think it's time to go, the club should do exactly that.

It would be mental to cut him off week before the end of the season unless he decides to do that. In that case club would be clean and would do it as it should be done and he would be bitter.

Mancini's a hot head and you get the impression that there's not many with much sympathy left for him behind the scenes so I'm 50/50 on whether it ends clean at the end of the season or we wake up to him having been sacked with immediate effect.

 

[taconinja]

I take your point and her position should be looked at, but he is a manager. He is paid to manage situations. This means that he cannot always say what he is thinking. He may have said it as he knows he is a gonner; however, the club could look at breach of contract for some of those comments!

how convenient some might say

on the other hand he might well have a case for constructive dismissal

either way the club should have managed this situation far far better than this

the manager deserves more respect and all this should have been done behind the scenes and a smooth managed professional transition put in place with the press finding out when it was all a done deal

Swales would have done no worse than this tbf

Ah well.....just like old times

''Typical City'' lol

We are assuming that the PR team are in the loop.

If they aren't, then the issue is communication between Bob and the board.
Mancini is a winner, there's no denying that; however, his communication style is primitive to say the least. Even as a player he portrayed the same arrogance as he is doing now. He was an exceptional footballer and I believe his problem is that he can't see why people can't see the game in the same way he can. Whilst he portrays a winning mentality which conveys to the players, he has begun to alienate them by not having the ability to see the game from their point of view.

If the PR executives aren't in the loop, then that's a bigger indictment of the club than the entire set of issues we've faced since the purchase.<br /><br />-- Sun May 12, 2013 7:36 pm --<br /><br />

That's my wish too- as much as I think it's time to go, the club should do exactly that.

It would be mental to cut him off week before the end of the season unless he decides to do that. In that case club would be clean and would do it as it should be done and he would be bitter.

Mancini's a hot head and you get the impression that there's not many with much sympathy left for him behind the scenes so I'm 50/50 on whether it ends clean at the end of the season or we wake up to him having been sacked with immediate effect.

He's volatile enough where even an agreement could go south if the next match doesn't go well.

 

[BobKowalski]

Yes. Unless you get rid of those two or three players. Its not a game though. It just the way he is. Like it. Don't like it. Mancini isn't interested one way or the other. Its tough environment that he creates. If you want it toned down you need to employ someone else. Which is what is happening I guess.

That's exactly why it can't work. Making such a tense environment is a bomb and it's not a matter if it will explode but when will it explode.

That's why managers like Mancini or Mourinho last 2-3 years no matter what level of success they deliver in that time. Soon or later someone up there gets enough of that and launches a fook off line.

Agreed on that point certainly. I still think some at the club should swallow their pride and do what it takes to get Mourinho in though.

They won't go for Mourinho. It will end in tears. They want a quieter life after Mancini not more of the same. It will be Pellegrini.

 

[Ray78]

As much as it is distasteful this is part and parcel being at an Elite club. If we aspire to be one then we will have to bite the bullet. Mancini deserves a decent send off though.

 

[MSP]

That's my wish too- as much as I think it's time to go, the club should do exactly that.

It would be mental to cut him off week before the end of the season unless he decides to do that. In that case club would be clean and would do it as it should be done and he would be bitter.

Mancini's a hot head and you get the impression that there's not many with much sympathy left for him behind the scenes so I'm 50/50 on whether it ends clean at the end of the season or we wake up to him having been sacked with immediate effect.

To be honest I'm not particularly bothered.. I hope club would do it on the right way and if he wants to be hot head after that, it's his problem.

 

[taconinja]

That's exactly why it can't work. Making such a tense environment is a bomb and it's not a matter if it will explode but when will it explode.

That's why managers like Mancini or Mourinho last 2-3 years no matter what level of success they deliver in that time. Soon or later someone up there gets enough of that and launches a fook off line.

Agreed on that point certainly. I still think some at the club should swallow their pride and do what it takes to get Mourinho in though.

They won't go for Mourinho. It will end in tears. They want a quieter life after Mancini not more of the same. It will be Pellegrini.

Well, lets hope it works out then.

 

[Anonymous]

He's volatile enough where even an agreement could go south if the next match doesn't go well.

City's bigger problem right now is Pellegrini. If it's true that Barcelona have moved for him, then I'm afraid Txiki and Ferran may have a problem. Sandro Rossel is going to have no problem in doing everything he can to take him and fuck us over.

The next few days are going to be very very interesting.

 

[Mr Ed (The Stables)]

this whole thing could really all just be rumours. i personally hope it is. i would just prefer we get rid of marwood

Setting a lot of fans against marwood reflects well on Mancini? It doesn't. We had the same thing with Tevez. And maybe others too

I'm not enjoying this at all. City breaking up with mancini. But you have to ask yourself why City are looking elsewhere. They'd only do so if there were issues.

I can't disagree with this.

 

[taconinja]

He's volatile enough where even an agreement could go south if the next match doesn't go well.

City's bigger problem right now is Pellegrini. If it's true that Barcelona have moved for him, then I'm afraid Txiki and Ferran may have a problem. Sandro Rossel is going to have no problem in doing everything he can to take him and fuck us over.

The next few days are going to be very very interesting.

Maybe we could throw buckets of cash at De Boer?

Would be hilarious if we hijacked Martinez from Everton, I suppose. At least that's where I heard he's going.

 

[Ray78]

He's volatile enough where even an agreement could go south if the next match doesn't go well.

City's bigger problem right now is Pellegrini. If it's true that Barcelona have moved for him, then I'm afraid Txiki and Ferran may have a problem. Sandro Rossel is going to have no problem in doing everything he can to take him and fuck us over.

The next few days are going to be very very interesting.

Frank de Boer or Brian Laudrup as Plan B?

 

[sam-caddick]

I think if we don't hear anything by tomorrow afternoon Mancini will see the season out.

I would be very surprised if we have no manager for the remaining two games.

 

[celticfc482]

sidlowe: He said he hasn't got anything signed with any team and hasn't met anyone. Then named four or five teams he 'hasn't met', incl City.

All very interesting, be nice they confirm mancini is gone. That will be a start.

 

[BobKowalski]

He's volatile enough where even an agreement could go south if the next match doesn't go well.

City's bigger problem right now is Pellegrini. If it's true that Barcelona have moved for him, then I'm afraid Txiki and Ferran may have a problem. Sandro Rossel is going to have no problem in doing everything he can to take him and fuck us over.

The next few days are going to be very very interesting.

Don't say that Billy...I'm just warming to the idea of Pellegrini as manager

 

[jrb]

Martin Samuel.

Pellegrini spent £200m at Real and won nothing... Surely we have better managers here

Manuel Pellegrini is going to be the new manager of Manchester City. And right there is the reason why Manchester United’s appointment of David Moyes was so important for English football.
A coach who has won nothing in Europe, not even in the season when he spent £200million on four players at Real Madrid, will now occupy one of the prime jobs in the Premier League. And as one door opens, another slams in the face of our home-schooled managers.
And not just British coaches, in fact, but those like Roberto Martinez or Gus Poyet who came to the game in this country, embraced it and stayed. Could Pellegrini have won the FA Cup with Wigan, as Martinez did on Saturday? Could he have got Wigan playing better football than Manchester City?

Thankfully, he does not have to answer those questions. Pellegrini enters the English game as Roberto Mancini did, at the top. He served his apprenticeship at clubs in South America, beyond our gaze, so all we have is received information. British managers play every match in the public eye.
We know every mistake, each little failure. We know that Alan Pardew struggled at Charlton Athletic and his success at Newcastle United was not maintained. So it counts against him.
Yet was Pellegrini so hot at O’Higgins or Palestino in Chile? And how much achievement in Spain has been aided by owner investment? We don’t know the details. He is one of the most admired coaches in Europe, we read, and Barcelona also want him, and that is our gospel.
No doubt Pellegrini is highly able. He did a fine job with two traditionally minor clubs, Villarreal and Malaga, and got 96 points in his sole season at Real Madrid, 2009-10, a record, although not enough to stop Barcelona winning the league.
Yet that campaign also saw Cristiano Ronaldo, Kaka, Karim Benzema and Xabi Alonso arrive in the summer for £210m, plus a 4-0 defeat by third-tier Alcorcon in the Spanish Cup and elimination by Lyon in the last 16 of the Champions League.
Pellegrini then moved to Malaga, who finished fourth backed by the wealth of Sheik Abdullah Al Thani and another significant spending spree of more than £50m. Is this so much greater than Pardew taking Newcastle to fifth in the Premier League in a year when many had them down for relegation?

'City have always claimed to be different, yet on the day of the FA Cup final the club allowed their manager to be a lame duck and his team played like it. '

Pellegrini’s triumphs — he was the last manager to split Barcelona and Real Madrid by finishing second with Villarreal — may have come in unfashionable locales, but his small clubs had big ideas.
Villarreal were backed by investment from the owner of a major ceramics company, Malaga’s overspending made them one of the first clubs to fall foul of UEFA’s financial fair play regulations.
This wasn’t success on a shoestring. Pellegrini was supported in a way many British managers can only dream about.
These were not legacy projects, either, in the manner of Moyes at Everton.
Villarreal are currently in Spain’s second tier and Malaga are banned from Europe next season for financial misconduct.
Pellegrini is clearly an impressive coach and his record in South America includes three titles, but right now is there such a huge difference between this and a Roman Abramovich appointment?
Pellegrini could be brilliant, or he could be gone in a year, replaced by the next fancy of Barca Lite.
City have always claimed to be different, yet on the day of the FA Cup final the club allowed their manager to be a lame duck and his team played like it.
They were lifeless and uninspired, took Wigan too lightly and had no fear of consequence as the Mancini regime limped towards cessation. They got what they deserved. City’s owners clearly do not value the product of English football.

They have bolted fragments of Barcelona on to their administration by appointing Txiki Begiristain sporting director and making Ferran Soriano the chief executive.
In January, Barcelona president Sandro Rosell accused City of trying to poach other Nou Camp employees. The result, though, is that a new executive level goes with what it knows. And City’s staff know Malaga, not Wigan.
How could Begiristain adequately evaluate the job done by Steve Bruce at Hull City or Steve Clarke at West Bromwich Albion, for instance? How could he assess Moyes? Begiristain has been 47 years in Spain and just over six months in Manchester.
He was appointed by City at the end of October and there are suggestions Pellegrini was being courted as early as January. Didn’t exactly play the field, did he?
Once Begiristain had taken against Mancini, he headed directly to the market he knew best.
Saturday’s FA Cup defeat may therefore have come as a bit of a shock, the discovery that there is a Spanish manager playing better football and working tiny miracles 25 miles down the road.
Little about City’s performance at Wembley spoke for Mancini.


He did, however, win the club the league and back-to-back trophies and the last time that happened was 1969. Yet Mancini was lucky, too. He got the break, he got the chance. An English manager has to fly to travel the same distance that managers in Spain or Italy walk.
Moyes had to wait eight years after getting Everton into the Champions League before a better offer came along. Alan Curbishley never got the call in his prime despite just missing out on Champions League football with Charlton Athletic.
Meanwhile, because City have been trying on identities and are currently being run as a Catalan enclave, Pellegrini is about to strike a rich man’s gold again. If he emulates the success of Mancini he will have done very well. Yet the manner of his appointment suggests it may not be enough.
Nothing may ever be enough for the restless elite.
There will always be a fashionable name, a fresh look, a new style that catches the eye. City hitched a ride on the fag-end of the Pep Guardiola era at Barcelona, so are in their Spanish phase.
This is dressed up as radicalism. At root, however, it’s just the same old, same old.

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[Anonymous]

He's volatile enough where even an agreement could go south if the next match doesn't go well.

City's bigger problem right now is Pellegrini. If it's true that Barcelona have moved for him, then I'm afraid Txiki and Ferran may have a problem. Sandro Rossel is going to have no problem in doing everything he can to take him and fuck us over.

The next few days are going to be very very interesting.

Maybe we could throw buckets of cash at De Boer?

Would be hilarious if we hijacked Martinez from Everton, I suppose. At least that's where I heard he's going.

I reckon the decision to sack Mancini wasn't made yesterday so on that basis I reckon that we have a list of three names minimum who they think they can get this summer, with Pellegrini obviously being top.

As for alternatives, De Boer and Laudrup are the obvious ones with the right footballing pedigree. The same small part of me that still wants to believe in santa claus believes that we're secretly selling the project Klopp. :)

 

[LoveCity]

He's volatile enough where even an agreement could go south if the next match doesn't go well.

City's bigger problem right now is Pellegrini. If it's true that Barcelona have moved for him, then I'm afraid Txiki and Ferran may have a problem. Sandro Rossel is going to have no problem in doing everything he can to take him and fuck us over.

The next few days are going to be very very interesting.

I don't think it'll come to that but there will be alternatives. Ancelotti all but confirmed tonight he will be open for job offers soon, looks like he's out of PSG already. God knows why... league title + last 8 of the Champions League (and so unlucky against Barcelona), and people call our chiefs harsh (unless he's quitting).

 

[sam-caddick]

He's volatile enough where even an agreement could go south if the next match doesn't go well.

City's bigger problem right now is Pellegrini. If it's true that Barcelona have moved for him, then I'm afraid Txiki and Ferran may have a problem. Sandro Rossel is going to have no problem in doing everything he can to take him and fuck us over.

The next few days are going to be very very interesting.

Maybe we could throw buckets of cash at De Boer?

Would be hilarious if we hijacked Martinez from Everton, I suppose. At least that's where I heard he's going.

We would look a complete laughing stock getting Martinez, it would be like if you can't beat then join them sort of thing.

He is a good manager and deserves better than Wigan, but i still think he has motivation consistency and consistent defensive organisation question marks over his head.

His side play like Spain one week, San Marino the next. Clean sheet one week, 4s and 5s the next.

Maybe that's an extreme analysis but you can see where I am coming from.

It will be interesting to see how well he does at a better side, although if Wigan played to their potential every week who is to say where they could be? Again motivational and defensive consistency issues.