Mancini (cont)

[jollylescott]

I like Dzeko but he has not in he's best form since coming to City.
But I don't blame him, I blame Roberto Mancini.

Roberto Mancini has singlehandedly destroyed his career amongst other players in the team Kolo Toure, Lescott amongst others...it hurts to see him talk
about rotation policy when it comes to Edin and already departed Mario. But for this litte pig Tevez who left us and has basically talked shit about Man City and the town of Manchester not to mention England in whole of South America, Mancini does not cope to do anything against him. He is a fantastic talent but no Messi which means that he should not be respected in the manner like Messi. City would be champions if Mancini would take care of this in a proper way. Instead he let Carlos walk back to the team STILL NOT able to speak English which is another funny thing, since it clearly tells you what kind of person he is.

*Shakes head*

I highly suspect you haven't followed City for more than 2 seasons at least. Before Mancini arrived, the Kolo-Lescott partnership was laughable at best. Sceptical fans around the globe mocked us for spending so much money on a failing defensive partnership. Mancini came, and our defence instantly improved.

Lescott is now arguably the best English centre back. Kolo doesn't play as often because he wasn't good enough, but does decently well when called upon. That's hardly career-destructing.

Any proper City fan would know that Tevez speaks English, just doesn't do it on television/interviews.

True, Tevez has talked an amount of shit, but in fact, most of us, likes to whine and whinge at our daily jobs. And he hasn't stated he hates club or whatnot, just the area its around. We keep the player because Tevez gives 110% every game. He was bought to play football, not love the city.

I daresay, prior to the shit he did at Munich, we are pretty lucky to have Tevez.

It's clearly that Mancini is a coward and a weak manager who does not have any pride, if he would have he should never have taken Carlos back to the team even if it gets us the title, you have to understand that it totally destroys the team athmosphere...he's talking about rotation, about justice and that the players have to struggle in order to get a chance?? But some players are marquee favorites and he does not hesitate to say it, which means that he is typically trying to influence a italian way of thinking into MCFC. This influence is all about the INDIVIDUAL. Some players fight like crazy (Milner) and then Yaya comes back from the african games and get's to start right away, do you guys seriously think that this does not create disharmony in the team. Nasri has been really bad this season but still he does one good match and gets to start from thereover imagine other players who fights week in and out and does not get the chance, it's ridiculos. This is the only Top-Club that acts like this, it's pure amateur football and this could clearly be seen when we face Euro opponents. He is unsecure aswell since he's not a man to take a blame when it goes bad for the team but instead puts it all on the players. This is something that has been done ever since he coached in Italy, that's why they left him, a good trainer that always blames the surroundings is the Italian view on Mancini. Look how he talked in Inter, we need players, we need money, we cannot win Champions league with this squad, we need to improve our team. And every year he recieved a large amount of money and bought new players without sucess, then Mourinho came and the rest is history.

If we don't win the title = Blame Mancini for driving Tevez out.
If we win the title = Says Mancini is a coward for bringing Tevez in.

I weep for our boss, because to some fans, for whatever he does, he cannot win.

There's no logic to your statement. So, you would rather we lose the title, because you would prefer we have a manager who has more "pride"?

And I don't see how Mancini's managerial approach is bad. True, it's ugly, but I believe it's effective.

We have a team of players on high wages and susceptible to ego issues. Having an disciplinarian keeps these players in check. And up till now, I haven't heard a player in the squad cry about Mancini.

Clichy has called for the boss to stay. Aguero has called for the boss to stay. The Mancini-outers in the squad are people who couldn't live up to their own wages and were actually happy to kiss the bench and collect their paychecks. These people don't even last in the squad for long.

Sorry for my English and for my long reply.
I hope you all can understand me in a proper way, I would rather play correct football with a great atmosphere and an OWN identity rather than having a club full of selfish non-english speaking mega-stars in the club, who does not give a rats ass about the fans nor the club execpt for their own personal interests.

What is CORRECT football?

And what in God's name is an OWN identity? Are we still not City? Does #together mean shit?


You sound like a bitter Rag. If you don't like where our club is heading, you can kindly f*** off. Because in my opinion, this club has one of the best fans, players who bleed City, a great future, great management, and I can only know, it's moving on to better things.

A superb riposte. Well done Akira. Top marks!

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

Vieira on Radio Monte Carlo: "Has this season been a success? No.

The aim was to retain the title and do better in the Champions League so, no, you can't say our season was a success.

We're in the Cup Final so that's a good way of saving the season.

"But we had a team you'd expect to do better. We could have done better."

 

[NipHolmes]

Vieira on Radio Monte Carlo: "Has this season been a success? No.

The aim was to retain the title and do better in the Champions League so, no, you can't say our season was a success.

We're in the Cup Final so that's a good way of saving the season.

"But we had a team you'd expect to do better. We could have done better."

Many have said this all season, even our saving grace has been a relative walk in the park except Chelsea.

It wasn't so much losing to BVB and Real, it was the losses at Ajax which defined how poor we were.

The only upsideof the season apart from the impending FA Cup is that our board will be kicked into gear and they will get players in and out sharpish rather than a repeat of last summer. However, it's still a challenge to move players on when their wages can only be paid by a handful of clubs.

The likes of Garcia, Kolarov and Sinclair simply don't meet the required grade. Dzeko doesn't fit us and Nasri is too expensive to be cover for Silva. Moving those 5 on will boost the coffers by 50m+ and save us close to 500kpw too. It's imperitive that players are brought in will better the quality fo our first eleven rather than be squad options.

 

[nijinskybell]

Vieira on Radio Monte Carlo: "Has this season been a success? No.

The aim was to retain the title and do better in the Champions League so, no, you can't say our season was a success.

We're in the Cup Final so that's a good way of saving the season.

"But we had a team you'd expect to do better. We could have done better."

We; as in players, coaches, management and hierarchy.

We are all aware that City could and maybe should have done better but it is a collective could have done better.

'The Rubicon is crossed' I guess refers to Mancini staying then? :)

 

[Ragnarok]

Vieira on Radio Monte Carlo: "Has this season been a success? No.

The aim was to retain the title and do better in the Champions League so, no, you can't say our season was a success.

We're in the Cup Final so that's a good way of saving the season.

"But we had a team you'd expect to do better. We could have done better."

We; as in players, coaches, management and hierarchy.

We are all aware that City could and maybe should have done better but it is a collective could have done better.

'The Rubicon is crossed' I guess refers to Mancini staying then? :)

I dont think that interview is significant. But he has also said this

: “The aim is to sign players that can help us with the Champions League.
“There are interesting players, some I’ve even come to France to see play — but, in the end, it’s Mancini’s call.” ( not the "managers" call, but "Mancini's" call ) ;)

 

[Akira]

A superb riposte. Well done Akira. Top marks!

I couldn't get past the 2nd paragraph. Something tells me we might be in for more of these drivel in the future. :(

 

[Anonymous]

Better the devil you know for the outers, for the inners, well we were and are behind him anyway. Because in the view of many he has been the catalyst between the money and the success.

Possibly he was the catalyst between the money and pushing City into the upper echelons of our domestic league and picking up a domestic trophy too. However for some of us he has also reached a peak with this team - dare I say it we probably peaked between Aug/Dec 2011, and since then we've been on somewhat of a gradual decline. Not a steep decline, nor a catastrophic one, but certainly a gradual decline in results and performances both individually and collectively, hence we haven't gotten any further in Europe and haven't managed to keep up with the rags in the league.

For the future I don't think anyone at City will be resting on their laurels and thinking that Mancini's fire proof and looking at other managers will be folly. They will be fully aware of his own desire to return to Italy in the coming years.

On Pellegrini - I understand it becomes very easy to mock him because he hasn't won trophies in Europe - but arguably the only time he had the resources was at Madrid and he was up against this Barcelona team when it was peaking. I certainly would have no problem if he is indeed Txiki's ideal candidate to replace Mancini either this summer or next.

 

[bernabias home shirt]

Good Interview with Graham hunter earlier on talksport
He as good as said mourinho done deal for the chavs
Pellegrini would cost nothing in compo from Malaga,and we were in the running & the rags would be ideal for him too
On another note he said all the big stars would be sold from every Spanish club except barca & Madrid,because of the financial situation in Spain.

 

[NipHolmes]

Good Interview with Graham hunter earlier on talksport
He as good as said mourinho done deal for the chavs
Pellegrini would cost nothing in compo from Malaga,and we were in the running & the rags would be ideal for him too
On another note he said all the big stars would be sold from every Spanish club except barca & Madrid,because of the financial situation in Spain.

Didn't listen to the interview but knew of all of what you typed.

Pellegrini is a possibility for PSG should Jose go to Chelsea and Carlo go to Real. I think he'd be great here but I can see us going for De Boer should we replace Mancini.

It's a shame for La Liga. Proper on it's arse as a country and it's league is unfair in the extreme. You're bang up against it if you are say Seville because the big two get all the money, they have dodgy deals with local councils etc and they tap up your players. Looks like Germany and England will snap up the talents, especially England when the new tv deal is paid out in the summer. The likes of Cardiff will have more spending power than any of Spains teams except teh big two, now that's mental.

 

[St Helens Blue (Exiled)]

Better the devil you know for the outers, for the inners, well we were and are behind him anyway. Because in the view of many he has been the catalyst between the money and the success.

Possibly he was the catalyst between the money and pushing City into the upper echelons of our domestic league and picking up a domestic trophy too. However for some of us he has also reached a peak with this team - dare I say it we probably peaked between Aug/Dec 2011, and since then we've been on somewhat of a gradual decline. Not a steep decline, nor a catastrophic one, but certainly a gradual decline in results and performances both individually and collectively, hence we haven't gotten any further in Europe and haven't managed to keep up with the rags in the league.

For the future I don't think anyone at City will be resting on their laurels and thinking that Mancini's fire proof and looking at other managers will be folly. They will be fully aware of his own desire to return to Italy in the coming years.

On Pellegrini - I understand it becomes very easy to mock him because he hasn't won trophies in Europe - but arguably the only time he had the resources was at Madrid and he was up against this Barcelona team when it was peaking. I certainly would have no problem if he is indeed Txiki's ideal candidate to replace Mancini either this summer or next.

Fucking bullshit Billy and you know it...A gradual decline-get to fuck..You cant win the league every year,so a trophy per season will do.

Your posts are becoming fucking tiresome,loathsome and to be honest pissing a lot of people off. You are entitled to your opinion,but in my opinion you are a fucking wum just looking for a reaction constantly. Well here is a reaction for you.
Why don't you try supporting the fucking club hey,instead of trying to pick holes in our manager constantly. You have you allies in Nip and Dave but honestly you are in a minority.
Sorry but I cannot stand fucking so called supporters like you. I don't give a fuck if I get slated for this post because to be honest I am sick of spoilt fucking so called fans wanting to change for change sake. You judge Mancini on europe, Everton and Sunderland.
The majority are judging on trophies won,you know silverware in the cabinet and I and many are very fucking happy.
You ay we haven't managed to keep up with the rags in the league..It's fine lines this season,very fine lines. We all know that our transfer policy cost us dearly and to be clear in second and in a cup final is fine for me this year. No other fucker has kept up with the rags,Chelsea,Arsenal,Spurs etc yet to continue to bleat on about Mancinis failings.
He hasn't failed. I agree,one more chance in europe but to change now we would yet again become the laughing stock. Most fans at any club would crawl over broken glass to have what he have and to have what we have achieved yet a small minority are still not happy. I bet you were gutted when Carlos smashed that winner in last night because I reckon you would have been first on this thread to bump it saying I told you so blah blah blah.