Mancini on Johnson: "Two Dribbles, Two Crosses"

Re: Mancini on Johnson:

Robbo. said:
Project said:
With Mancini on this one.


really dont agree, Johnson imo should be the first on the team sheet week in week out.

lol^

Johnson is nothing but an impact player, when he plays for 90minutes he disapears we've seen it many times. He dosnt track back either so it leaves us more open in defence.
Johnson is only good if you bring him on after 60minutes and let him go past defenders.

I would never start johnson, leaves us too weak on the side he plays.
 
Brilliant. This is what sets City fans apart. Intelligent, balanced debate about the club we love, and the issues we face.

Keep up with this kind of stuff as opposed to some of the knuckle dragging rubbish about City fans being the hardest, or most hard done by fans in the world.

In my humble opinion, we are some of the most articulate, well informed and realistic fans on the planet.

Come on City!
 
Re: Mancini on Johnson:

Project said:
With Mancini on this one.

Me too. Just look what happened to Micah when he started to get too big for his boots. He hasn't been the same player for three years.

If only we'd had a manager back then who'd been a bit tougher with him he might have carried on improving instead of going the other way. Mancini is handling this the right way in my opinion.
 
Re: Mancini on Johnson:

Robbo. said:
Project said:
With Mancini on this one.


really dont agree, Johnson imo should be the first on the team sheet week in week out.

Have you actually watched any of his performances when he's started recently?
 
edgecroft said:
From the Mirror:
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/nov/12/adam-johnson-roberto-mancini-england?intcmp=239" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010 ... intcmp=239</a>

Has fame gone to Adam Johnson's head after breaking into England squad?
The manager Roberto Mancini addresses first signs of bigheadedness, believing his winger is not the finished article
Daniel Taylor
guardian.co.uk, Friday 12 November 2010 22.30 GMT
Adam-Johnson-Manchester-C-006.jpg


Roberto Mancini has defended his selective use of Adam Johnson and, breaking his usual rule of not criticising his own players, questioned whether the Manchester City winger has allowed the praise he has received from breaking into the England side to go to his head. While Johnson has established himself on the left side of Fabio Capello's team, the former Middlesbrough player has started only one of City's past seven Premier League games, with Mancini preferring David Silva, James Milner or Mario Balotelli.

Mancini, the City manager, has already felt compelled to address what he perceives to be the first signs of bigheadedness affecting Johnson earlier in the season, and the Italian was as critical of him as he has been of any player during his 11 months in Manchester. "England is like Italy, when a young player plays five games very well all the newspapers say: 'Oh, this Adam Johnson is a fantastic player.' But Adam is a young player, he doesn't understand [the game] very well and he can improve a lot more if he thinks more when he plays.

"He's a good player but he's only 22, he's played only 20 games in the Premier League and it's impossible to think of him now as a top player. He's a good guy, but when you are young and you read the newspapers: 'I am the top, I am the top.' For this, he must work, he must think, he must work for the team; not two dribbles, two crosses. In a top team you need more. If you're doing only two dribbles, you can't be the best player on the pitch. You must score a goal, you must defend, you must help your team-mates. There is more expected of him." That criticism is likely to sting Johnson but Mancini believes the player is too easily distracted by some of the trappings that can affect young players.

City's coaching staff were unimpressed by his reaction when he was substituted in one match and he has done himself few favours by being one of the players who ended up drinking into the early hours at a student house party in St Andrews during a recent day off, video footage of which was sold to the Sun and has led to a public apology from Gareth Barry, who arranged the trip. "It's important all the players must have good behaviour during the week because we must prepare for every game very well," Mancini said. "He [Johnson] must keep his feet on the floor and he must stay there. It's better for him [not always starting him] if he wants to improve. He's a good player, he has a fantastic talent but he is not a top player at this moment. Maybe he can arrive at the top but the difficulty is to stay there. Adam has a quality to go to the top and stay there but he must improve."

Johnson has expressed his unhappiness at being left out. "I wouldn't say I'm great with it. I want to be playing all the time but I've got to get on with it. It's a little bit frustrating because I started the season so well, my form was really good, but I tend to find myself on the bench."

Mancini's men play Birmingham City tomorrow with the former Internazionale coach still rejecting the criticisms about his side's conservative tactics in Wednesday's 0-0 draw with Manchester United. "I didn't think it was a boring game," he said. "I'm surprised only by the criticisms of our supporters. It's impossible to be a fantastic team, scoring three or four goals every week. At this moment 0-0 was a good result for us."

I completely agree with all that. He wastes a lot, he makes the wrong decisions a lot, he doesn't help the full back out enough or when he does it isn't effective enough. Now don't get me wrong, he can do some really exciting and positive things, but he has a lot to learn, a hell of a lot to improve on and it seems he needs to be brought down a peg or two. The lad is 24, not 18! If he was gonna be a top top player he'd already be one by now. To put things into perspective, Lionel Messi is 24!
 
danburge82 said:
edgecroft said:
From the Mirror:
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/nov/12/adam-johnson-roberto-mancini-england?intcmp=239" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010 ... intcmp=239</a>

Has fame gone to Adam Johnson's head after breaking into England squad?
The manager Roberto Mancini addresses first signs of bigheadedness, believing his winger is not the finished article
Daniel Taylor
guardian.co.uk, Friday 12 November 2010 22.30 GMT
Adam-Johnson-Manchester-C-006.jpg


Roberto Mancini has defended his selective use of Adam Johnson and, breaking his usual rule of not criticising his own players, questioned whether the Manchester City winger has allowed the praise he has received from breaking into the England side to go to his head. While Johnson has established himself on the left side of Fabio Capello's team, the former Middlesbrough player has started only one of City's past seven Premier League games, with Mancini preferring David Silva, James Milner or Mario Balotelli.

Mancini, the City manager, has already felt compelled to address what he perceives to be the first signs of bigheadedness affecting Johnson earlier in the season, and the Italian was as critical of him as he has been of any player during his 11 months in Manchester. "England is like Italy, when a young player plays five games very well all the newspapers say: 'Oh, this Adam Johnson is a fantastic player.' But Adam is a young player, he doesn't understand [the game] very well and he can improve a lot more if he thinks more when he plays.

"He's a good player but he's only 22, he's played only 20 games in the Premier League and it's impossible to think of him now as a top player. He's a good guy, but when you are young and you read the newspapers: 'I am the top, I am the top.' For this, he must work, he must think, he must work for the team; not two dribbles, two crosses. In a top team you need more. If you're doing only two dribbles, you can't be the best player on the pitch. You must score a goal, you must defend, you must help your team-mates. There is more expected of him." That criticism is likely to sting Johnson but Mancini believes the player is too easily distracted by some of the trappings that can affect young players.

City's coaching staff were unimpressed by his reaction when he was substituted in one match and he has done himself few favours by being one of the players who ended up drinking into the early hours at a student house party in St Andrews during a recent day off, video footage of which was sold to the Sun and has led to a public apology from Gareth Barry, who arranged the trip. "It's important all the players must have good behaviour during the week because we must prepare for every game very well," Mancini said. "He [Johnson] must keep his feet on the floor and he must stay there. It's better for him [not always starting him] if he wants to improve. He's a good player, he has a fantastic talent but he is not a top player at this moment. Maybe he can arrive at the top but the difficulty is to stay there. Adam has a quality to go to the top and stay there but he must improve."

Johnson has expressed his unhappiness at being left out. "I wouldn't say I'm great with it. I want to be playing all the time but I've got to get on with it. It's a little bit frustrating because I started the season so well, my form was really good, but I tend to find myself on the bench."

Mancini's men play Birmingham City tomorrow with the former Internazionale coach still rejecting the criticisms about his side's conservative tactics in Wednesday's 0-0 draw with Manchester United. "I didn't think it was a boring game," he said. "I'm surprised only by the criticisms of our supporters. It's impossible to be a fantastic team, scoring three or four goals every week. At this moment 0-0 was a good result for us."

I completely agree with all that. He wastes a lot, he makes the wrong decisions a lot, he doesn't help the full back out enough or when he does it isn't effective enough. Now don't get me wrong, he can do some really exciting and positive things, but he has a lot to learn, a hell of a lot to improve on and it seems he needs to be brought down a peg or two. The lad is 24, not 18! If he was gonna be a top top player he'd already be one by now. To put things into perspective, Lionel Messi is 24!


He's only 23 actually ;) but I agree, he isn't an all round player. Not one that is required for the premier league anyway. I think in La Liga he could play everygame as defensively it is not required to track back so much. But Messi is an exceptional talent so I think we can just set him aside. 23 is still young enough for him to go on and improve. If Mancini motivates him well like Im sure he can then he really will improve and then will be much more of an asset.
 
After hearing this I bet he starts today. There's nothing wrong with criticising him publically if he thinks it will help, he's playing the sergent major card here. Get him wound up and let him go, just like he did against Newcastle and it worked like a charm that day.
 

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