Mancini On Soriano

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Didsbury Dave said:
dennishasdoneit said:
BillyShears said:
Par for the fucking course with this guy. Just amazes me that it's taken so long for a few people to see what a complete twat he was and how corrosive he was behind the scenes at City.

I,m sorry billy, but i am a Manchester City fan, and cannot see how it is right to ever refer to Roberto Mancini as "a complete twat"

We are not talking about Phil Neal here billy..we are talking about a man who promised to rip down the banner, and did.

Don,t speak of our ex boss in those terms.
It's funny when people get all precious over saint bob, like he's the pope or something.

With all this bleating about "respect" and "gratitude" you'd think he was Nielsen Mandela.

i don,t find anything funny about trashing our ex-boss. i sometimes wonder where the likes of you get your kicks. still scratching my head on that one.
 
The cookie monster said:
strongbowholic said:
Ha Ha
Not as bad as the other threads tbh mate
There was some nasty shit posted on them from both sides,cant believe some of the stuff i posted myself tbh.....Mancini really did stir up a lively angry debate,and still does..
There's a heady cocktail of hate, wumming and trolling going on. Psychologist's dream this place sometimes.
 
BoyBlue_1985 said:
Skashion said:
BoyBlue_1985 said:
Could you live without the trophies now after knowing what it feels like, of course you could and the main fanbase would always stick by but I can imagine it would feel a little different this time around to be shite again
We were an excellent side in the 60s and 70s too. I have faith in our fanbase.
We did but obviously I was far from being born then. I was used to City being pants until the 26th year of my life, it was something I just accepted and I was a proud supporter of City, if it went to shit (it wont for obvious reasons) I would support us in the same manner and still be as proud to wear the blue and our main fanbase would never go away. I just think it would feel different now to how it did, more painful for sure

I guess it's different for everyone ... i'm closer to Skashion in the sense that really, it didn't matter to me one bit when we were shit. The feelings of pleasure and pain were just the same, just the external stakes are higher now. Could I live with us going back to being shit? I don't know is the honest answer, it's a bit like asking if me I could go back to living without a mobile phone. If it happened i'd have to so in that sense i'd be fine. Would it hurt more because we've experience success? Maybe ... but not for long. We're amazingly adaptable creatures as humans. If people can go from being very rich to very poor and still enjoy their lives then i reckon we could go from being successful to not successful and still enjoy and love City just the same. But like I say, i guess it's different for everyone.
 
BillyShears said:
BoyBlue_1985 said:
Skashion said:
We were an excellent side in the 60s and 70s too. I have faith in our fanbase.
We did but obviously I was far from being born then. I was used to City being pants until the 26th year of my life, it was something I just accepted and I was a proud supporter of City, if it went to shit (it wont for obvious reasons) I would support us in the same manner and still be as proud to wear the blue and our main fanbase would never go away. I just think it would feel different now to how it did, more painful for sure

I guess it's different for everyone ... i'm closer to Skashion in the sense that really, it didn't matter to me one bit when we were shit. The feelings of pleasure and pain were just the same, just the external stakes are higher now. Could I live with us going back to being shit? I don't know is the honest answer, it's a bit like asking if me I could go back to living without a mobile phone. If it happened i'd have to so in that sense i'd be fine. Would it hurt more because we've experience success? Maybe ... but not for long. We're amazingly adaptable creatures as humans. If people can go from being very rich to very poor and still enjoy their lives then i reckon we could go from being successful to not successful and still enjoy and love City just the same. But like I say, i guess it's different for everyone.
It was the same for those who started watching City in the 60s, you learn a painful lesson when it happens. Enjoy it while you can, it doesn't last.
 
George Hannah said:
Enjoy it while you can, it doesn't last.

Nothing lasts for forever ... i've been telling my rag brother that for nearly two decades. :)
 
George Hannah said:
BillyShears said:
BoyBlue_1985 said:
We did but obviously I was far from being born then. I was used to City being pants until the 26th year of my life, it was something I just accepted and I was a proud supporter of City, if it went to shit (it wont for obvious reasons) I would support us in the same manner and still be as proud to wear the blue and our main fanbase would never go away. I just think it would feel different now to how it did, more painful for sure

I guess it's different for everyone ... i'm closer to Skashion in the sense that really, it didn't matter to me one bit when we were shit. The feelings of pleasure and pain were just the same, just the external stakes are higher now. Could I live with us going back to being shit? I don't know is the honest answer, it's a bit like asking if me I could go back to living without a mobile phone. If it happened i'd have to so in that sense i'd be fine. Would it hurt more because we've experience success? Maybe ... but not for long. We're amazingly adaptable creatures as humans. If people can go from being very rich to very poor and still enjoy their lives then i reckon we could go from being successful to not successful and still enjoy and love City just the same. But like I say, i guess it's different for everyone.
It was the same for those who started watching City in the 60s, you learn a painful lesson when it happens. Enjoy it while you can, it doesn't last.

Well as football has voted to keep the small clubs from ever progressing under the guise of FFP it seems all trophies will be shared amongst the top 4 or 5 except the odd shock

Fuck you WIGAN
 
The cookie monster said:
strongbowholic said:
Ha Ha
Not as bad as the other threads tbh mate
There was some nasty shit posted on them from both sides,cant believe some of the stuff i posted myself tbh.....Mancini really did stir up a lively angry debate,and still does..
Mancinimite

Love him or hate him, personally I don't hate. I just think the love in is misguided. I'm grateful for what he helped achieve but last seasons failings and his ongoing problems with players and board level colleagues were his failing.

I just hope it's all put to bed once the first game kicks off and that we all start a fresh.
 
dennishasdoneit said:
Didsbury Dave said:
dennishasdoneit said:
I,m sorry billy, but i am a Manchester City fan, and cannot see how it is right to ever refer to Roberto Mancini as "a complete twat"

We are not talking about Phil Neal here billy..we are talking about a man who promised to rip down the banner, and did.

Don,t speak of our ex boss in those terms.
It's funny when people get all precious over saint bob, like he's the pope or something.

With all this bleating about "respect" and "gratitude" you'd think he was Nielsen Mandela.

i don,t find anything funny about trashing our ex-boss. i sometimes wonder where the likes of you get your kicks. still scratching my head on that one.
And I wonder about the likes of you holding managers up on a pedestal and treating them as a sacred cow. Especially when they've been sacked for not being good enough, and have gone on to give yet another "it's everyone else's fault" interview like this one.

If you've never, ever, criticisised a player, ex-player, board member or staff member in the pub or om on a city forum then I guess you can lay some sort of claim to some weird, and pretty exclusive, form of moral high ground. But you don't represent any kind of football fan I ever socialise with, or would want to, if that's the case. And if you have you're a hypocrite of course.
 
I see the Mancini debate still rages long after he has gone. My 3 points:

1. Most Managers have a shelf life and his time had probably come.

2. Whether people liked him is largely irrelevant. There are plenty of popular failures. Mancini was a winner with City.

3. Whether we were successful because of Mancini or in spite of him is the ultimate question in my opinion. Pelle has runner up in the Premiership and FA Cup and the group stages of the CL to beat. Time will tell.
 
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