Mancini On Soriano

[dennishasdoneit]

It's funny when people get all precious over saint bob, like he's the pope or something.

With all this bleating about "respect" and "gratitude" you'd think he was Nielsen Mandela.

i don,t find anything funny about trashing our ex-boss. i sometimes wonder where the likes of you get your kicks. still scratching my head on that one.

And I wonder about the likes of you holding managers up on a pedestal and treating them as a sacred cow. Especially when they've been sacked for not being good enough, and have gone on to give yet another "it's everyone else's fault" interview like this one.

If you've never, ever, criticisised a player, ex-player, board member or staff member in the pub or om on a city forum then I guess you can lay some sort of claim to some weird, and pretty exclusive, form of moral high ground. But you don't represent any kind of football fan I ever socialise with, or would want to, if that's the case. And if you have you're a hypocrite of course.

joe mercer was also sacked. don,t hear many city fans on here call him a" complete twat".
just have a little bit of respect for the men stood up to the plate, and won titles..they may be gone, and behind us, but they are still part of our history.

 

[OB1]

We were an excellent side in the 60s and 70s too. I have faith in our fanbase.

We did but obviously I was far from being born then. I was used to City being pants until the 26th year of my life, it was something I just accepted and I was a proud supporter of City, if it went to shit (it wont for obvious reasons) I would support us in the same manner and still be as proud to wear the blue and our main fanbase would never go away. I just think it would feel different now to how it did, more painful for sure

I guess it's different for everyone ... i'm closer to Skashion in the sense that really, it didn't matter to me one bit when we were shit. The feelings of pleasure and pain were just the same, just the external stakes are higher now. Could I live with us going back to being shit? I don't know is the honest answer, it's a bit like asking if me I could go back to living without a mobile phone. If it happened i'd have to so in that sense i'd be fine. Would it hurt more because we've experience success? Maybe ... but not for long. We're amazingly adaptable creatures as humans. If people can go from being very rich to very poor and still enjoy their lives then i reckon we could go from being successful to not successful and still enjoy and love City just the same. But like I say, i guess it's different for everyone.

I'm old enough to have supported City when we were previously one of the best sides around: I got my first season ticket in 1972 and have renewed every year since and when the time comes that I do not renew, it will have nothing to do with whether City are successful or not.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

i don,t find anything funny about trashing our ex-boss. i sometimes wonder where the likes of you get your kicks. still scratching my head on that one.

And I wonder about the likes of you holding managers up on a pedestal and treating them as a sacred cow. Especially when they've been sacked for not being good enough, and have gone on to give yet another "it's everyone else's fault" interview like this one.

If you've never, ever, criticisised a player, ex-player, board member or staff member in the pub or om on a city forum then I guess you can lay some sort of claim to some weird, and pretty exclusive, form of moral high ground. But you don't represent any kind of football fan I ever socialise with, or would want to, if that's the case. And if you have you're a hypocrite of course.

joe mercer was also sacked. don,t hear many city fans on here call him a" complete twat".
just have a little bit of respect for the men stood up to the plate, and won titles..they may be gone, and behind us, but they are still part of our history.

According to Mancini, we had no history before he came.

Mancini truly was a visionary.

I mean, why couldn't Khaldoon and Sheikh Mansour see that spending £95m on Van Persie, De Rossi and Hazard would have won us the title?


And spending yet another £60m this summer on Cavani...

Mancini is not stupid, he doesn't want to make enemies of the real power players.

last year it was Marwood, despite him being mandated by our Chairman.

And in this interview, Mancini chooses Soriano as the fall guy for his own failings, but provides that little caveat, Khaldoon and our owner are top people.

Surely he isn't that deluded to believe they had no imput into his tenure and dismissal?

 

[BoyBlue_1985]

We did but obviously I was far from being born then. I was used to City being pants until the 26th year of my life, it was something I just accepted and I was a proud supporter of City, if it went to shit (it wont for obvious reasons) I would support us in the same manner and still be as proud to wear the blue and our main fanbase would never go away. I just think it would feel different now to how it did, more painful for sure

I guess it's different for everyone ... i'm closer to Skashion in the sense that really, it didn't matter to me one bit when we were shit. The feelings of pleasure and pain were just the same, just the external stakes are higher now. Could I live with us going back to being shit? I don't know is the honest answer, it's a bit like asking if me I could go back to living without a mobile phone. If it happened i'd have to so in that sense i'd be fine. Would it hurt more because we've experience success? Maybe ... but not for long. We're amazingly adaptable creatures as humans. If people can go from being very rich to very poor and still enjoy their lives then i reckon we could go from being successful to not successful and still enjoy and love City just the same. But like I say, i guess it's different for everyone.

I'm old enough to have supported City when we were previously one of the best sides around: I go my first season ticket in 1972 and have renewed every year since and when the time comes that I do not renew; it will have nothing to do with whether City are successful or not.

I would like to add that im not questioning peoples faith. I just think for a bit it would feel different a be alot harder to take being pants than it was before. For you OB you have done it but for people like me until 3 seasons ago all we knew was also rans

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

We did but obviously I was far from being born then. I was used to City being pants until the 26th year of my life, it was something I just accepted and I was a proud supporter of City, if it went to shit (it wont for obvious reasons) I would support us in the same manner and still be as proud to wear the blue and our main fanbase would never go away. I just think it would feel different now to how it did, more painful for sure

I guess it's different for everyone ... i'm closer to Skashion in the sense that really, it didn't matter to me one bit when we were shit. The feelings of pleasure and pain were just the same, just the external stakes are higher now. Could I live with us going back to being shit? I don't know is the honest answer, it's a bit like asking if me I could go back to living without a mobile phone. If it happened i'd have to so in that sense i'd be fine. Would it hurt more because we've experience success? Maybe ... but not for long. We're amazingly adaptable creatures as humans. If people can go from being very rich to very poor and still enjoy their lives then i reckon we could go from being successful to not successful and still enjoy and love City just the same. But like I say, i guess it's different for everyone.

I'm old enough to have supported City when we were previously one of the best sides around: I go my first season ticket in 1972 and have renewed every year since and when the time comes that I do not renew; it will have nothing to do with whether City are successful or not.

I'm not sure why people are referencing following the club through thick and thin with enjoying the trappings of success.

They are mutually exclusive, to any proper football fan, at least. Isn't that, ultimately, what following a club should be about?

 

[mcfcphil]

It’s all a game – mancini is doing what all managers do – making his tenure seem as positive as possible.
Pellegrini actually blamed the fact he had too many star players at Madrid as the reason he didn’t succeed (no pianists etc etc). He also blamed his superiors. Doesn’t make him a twat – it’s just the way it is.
It’s just spin.
What i can’t understand is the vitriol that still exists on here towards mancini.
I support city not a manager and i can understand why people didn’t rate him.
But why people can’t just be appreciative of what the club, as whole, achieved while mancini was manager and move on without the bitterness i have no idea.
I find it quite sad that people have so much antipathy to such a successful period of our history.
Just lighten up and enjoy the ride FFS

 

[Skashion]

I think everyone's happy we're more successful these days. But clearly it matters less to some people. No need to bicker over it. If I didn't know you any better, I'd say you're trying to initiate some bickering because you've run out of Viagra and need alternative arousal means.

 

[City_Sean]

I did like roberto, after all he won us the league, fa cup and community shield, The year we won the premier league I witnessed some of the best football of my life, It was up there with Barcelona at times.

BUT

he did so after spending in excess of 300 Million pounds, what annoyed me was he was like a child in a sweet shop, demanding hazard, RVP and De rossi when he already has a massively talented squad,

His man management skills let him down, constantly criticizing players, also never gave players a good enough run in the team to establish themselves, Last season was awful in terms of the standard of squad that we have, We were an embarrassment in europe, Got knocked out the capital one cup at home to a piss poor villa side, lost the FA cup final against another piss poor side,

The only person he can blame in my eyes is himself, He had a great squad, but didn't utilize it enough at all.

 

[Mental_blue]

And I wonder about the likes of you holding managers up on a pedestal and treating them as a sacred cow. Especially when they've been sacked for not being good enough, and have gone on to give yet another "it's everyone else's fault" interview like this one.

If you've never, ever, criticisised a player, ex-player, board member or staff member in the pub or om on a city forum then I guess you can lay some sort of claim to some weird, and pretty exclusive, form of moral high ground. But you don't represent any kind of football fan I ever socialise with, or would want to, if that's the case. And if you have you're a hypocrite of course.

joe mercer was also sacked. don,t hear many city fans on here call him a" complete twat".
just have a little bit of respect for the men stood up to the plate, and won titles..they may be gone, and behind us, but they are still part of our history.

According to Mancini, we had no history before he came.

Mancini truly was a visionary.

I mean, why couldn't Khaldoon and Sheikh Mansour see that spending £95m on Van Persie, De Rossi and Hazard would have won us the title?


And spending yet another £60m this summer on Cavani...

Mancini is not stupid, he doesn't want to make enemies of the real power players.

last year it was Marwood, despite him being mandated by our Chairman.

And in this interview, Mancini chooses Soriano as the fall guy for his own failings, but provides that little caveat, Khaldoon and our owner are top people.

Surely he isn't that deluded to believe they had no imput into his tenure and dismissal?

You probably know better than me TH, but I would have thought that it would have been little more than a rubber stamping exercise by Khaldoon and co. If they have hired Los Dos Amigos to do a job then I would have thought that they would have let them get on with it and not try and undermine the first major decision they made.

 

[OB1]

I guess it's different for everyone ... i'm closer to Skashion in the sense that really, it didn't matter to me one bit when we were shit. The feelings of pleasure and pain were just the same, just the external stakes are higher now. Could I live with us going back to being shit? I don't know is the honest answer, it's a bit like asking if me I could go back to living without a mobile phone. If it happened i'd have to so in that sense i'd be fine. Would it hurt more because we've experience success? Maybe ... but not for long. We're amazingly adaptable creatures as humans. If people can go from being very rich to very poor and still enjoy their lives then i reckon we could go from being successful to not successful and still enjoy and love City just the same. But like I say, i guess it's different for everyone.

I'm old enough to have supported City when we were previously one of the best sides around: I go my first season ticket in 1972 and have renewed every year since and when the time comes that I do not renew; it will have nothing to do with whether City are successful or not.

I'm not sure why people are referencing following the club through thick and thin with enjoying the trappings of success.

They are mutually exclusive, to any proper football fan, at least. Isn't that, ultimately, what following a club should be about?

I'd say that the enjoyment of the trappings of success, as you put it, is enhanced by having been through thin times. I suppose people have different reasons for following a club and can certainly arrive at supporting a particular club for different reasons. I don't spend much time analyzing why I support for City; it's just a deeply ingrained part of me.