Mancini On Soriano

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OB1 said:
However, the club might have been able to engineer a resignation if they had played hard ball on a new contract. I do think that him swanning off to Monaco would have been the best outcome for City.

Mancini by all accounts would've been happy to resign had City not given him a new contract, which from his side you can understand. He was going into the last 12 months of his contract, and he had a couple of big money offers which obviously aren't there this summer. Ball was in City's court.

I think you're right about the perception - due to the wave of euphoria at winning the league in the manner in which we did, to sack Mancini and then not have a candidate immediately lined up would've looked incredibly crass. My thing is that ultimately football is a pretty crass business and sometimes you have to take your medicine for the greater good. I remember Bob Kowalski laughing at me relentlessly for saying City had a long term plan which didn't fit with Mancini's profile and that his sacking was inevitable.

Water under the bridge now I guess ... I certainly don't think with Ferran and Txiki in charge we will ever end up a similar situation again. As a few people have said, I fully expect MP to work his magic until Pep is done at Bayern and then the Barcelona dream team which Roman so craved will be reunited at City.
 
If people like Kaldoon think Soriano amd Txiki were the guys who ushered in Barcelona's wave of success and think the Barca boys will do the same with City they are in for a shock. The mastermind was Laporta and Guardiola.
 
gelly said:
The mastermind was Laporta and Guardiola.

Who masterminded Pep's rise from ex Barca player to most sought after coach in the world?

I'll give you a clue ... he's a cheeky bastard ... :)
 
BillyShears said:
gelly said:
The mastermind was Laporta and Guardiola.

Who masterminded Pep's rise from ex Barca player to most sought after coach in the world?

I'll give you a clue ... he's a cheeky bastard ... :)

Yeah Laporta on Revista de la Liga pretty much said that he didn't do anything without asking Txiki first. Held Txiki in the upmost regard.
 
Billy,

Pep was my first choice to replace Mancini and maybe if we had let him go last summer, we could have lined Pep up for this summer. Maybe the fact that Pep was insisting on a gap year helped to sway the decision to keep Mancini in place.

City should always be planning ahead but I'm not about to start wishing Pellers out of his job;-)
 
OB1 said:
Billy,

Pep was my first choice to replace Mancini and maybe if we had let him go last summer, we could have lined Pep up for this summer. Maybe the fact that Pep was insisting on a gap year helped to sway the decision to keep Mancini in place.

City should always be planning ahead but I'm not about to start wishing Pleer's out of his job;-)

Not at all and that wasn't the point i was making at all. I think it's clear that Txiki and Ferran like most European football clubs view managers in cycles of 3/4 at a push 5 years depending on their success. I'm just pointing out that for me the obvious candidate at the end of Pellegrini's cycle will be Guardiola. But we say that now. Who knows how Pep will do in Bayern how Pellegrini will do here, and what next week's lottery numbers will be!

I guess the one thing I know is that discussing who succeeds Pellegrini won't be half as divisive as discussing who succeeds Mancini :)<br /><br />-- Fri Jul 05, 2013 2:42 pm --<br /><br />
SuperMario's Fireworks. said:
slightly off topic guys, but whens pellegrini's first official press conference? monday?

I suspect that he'll have to done either when they land in South Africa or just before they leave the country.
 
BillyShears said:
bluealf said:
3 minutes. not bad :)

haha ... to be honest I'd just gotten done reading the two pages i'd missed from last night when your post popped up so i couldn't resist ... :)

I'm going to try and tone down the things I say about Mancini. I've woken up with a bit of affection for him ... maybe I've said everything I needed to say both to him and to the hardcore in'ers.

In the immortal words of someone who's name escapes me "lets not go sucking each others dicks just yet" ... but I'll certainly try and be nicer.

Mr Wolf.

I couldn't resist either and really kept myself off the site for 8 months as the constant crap and arguments was simply getting boring to read, but I did say in my original post that we should move on, I defended Hughes and Mancini because I wanted the club to have a stable base to work from, if they had sacked Slur would they have ended up with that many titles ? Doubt it myself but we will never know now.

In appointing Pellers we still won't have a stable base to work from as he will not be manager for 5 years nevermind 20, he hasn't stayed at a club longer than 3 years as he ?
Plus he is getting on in years already, if Mancini or Hughes for that matter could have produced success it would now be our turn at a 10-15 year cycle of success, like Liverpool in the 70/80's and them in the sky years.

We let them off the hook last season, some of the problems Mancini's fault but the players have to take a long hard look at themselves also, a lot did not apply themselves in the manner that manure players have over long periods of time and rested on their laurels, we missed far to many chances that turned out to be crucial and that isn't Mancini's fault when a player misses a sitter.

All if, buts and maybes and his time ended in a poor fashion, the men in charge learned nothing from the sacking of Hughes and it probably led to our poor showing in the FA cup final, if they could have kept it under wraps better then I believe we would have won the cup but would that have made it harder to sack Mancini ?

You do have to wonder about that sometimes.

:)
 
M24 Citizen said:
BillyShears said:
gelly said:
The mastermind was Laporta and Guardiola.

Who masterminded Pep's rise from ex Barca player to most sought after coach in the world?

I'll give you a clue ... he's a cheeky bastard ... :)

Yeah Laporta on Revista de la Liga pretty much said that he didn't do anything without asking Txiki first. Held Txiki in the upmost regard.

Ok but they dont seem so urgent to replace Tevez and Balotelli, you need 4 top strikers to win premier league. Thats why Mancini pushed so hard for RVP. He knew it was over when Balotelli was sold.
 
what makes me laugh is the people attacking mancini do so in the pretence that they knew from inside city every word and every action that took place.

1, they didn't.
2, who gives a fuck, he won things for us.
 
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