Mancini out (Merged)

[waspish]

True about Ancelotti this season but last season (before Abramovich starting sticking his oar in) he won the double. Also, after tonight he is almost certainly gone from Chelsea.

Yes please, Jose or Carlo would do me.

Ps
I still think we may get capello.

Capello? He's in the same trait as Mancini! Managing wise!

We get 4th Mancini has done his Job why is everyone panicking?

 

[James23]

Just don't get the Mancini outers.......why? No consistency = changing fucking managers all the time.

Well said. I can rarely be arsed to post on these Mancini Out threads. They're just too tedious and I tend to ignore them. But I just cannot understand the people who want him out, yes he made a mistake on Monday but if every time a manager made a mistake he got sacked, then about 5 managers in the Premier League would get sacked every weekend. We're doing better under Mancini than we were under Hughes, just look at what he's done to our defence for one thing, second best in the league apart from Chelsea and players like Vincent Kompany and Micah Richards have blossomed since he has been here. For all we know by the end of the season we finish in the top 4 and win the FA Cup, this could be a fantastic season for us, an historic season and people want us to change the manager?! Just be glad for what you have, 12 years ago we were fighting for promotion in Division 2... City are back. Can we not just enjoy it?

 

[Damocles]

Ask yourselves this:

If the Madrid manager met his stated goal for the year and still sacked in his first season, would you think that this was the correct decision?

There are about a billion reasons why this is all madness, and his length of time here is just one

 

[Didsbury Dave]

Ask yourselves this:

If the Madrid manager met his stated goal for the year and still sacked in his first season, would you think that this was the correct decision?

There are about a billion reasons why this is all madness, and his length of time here is just one

Noone but The Sheikh and Mancini know what goals he was set.

 

[Failsworth_Blue]

Ask yourselves this:

If the Madrid manager met his stated goal for the year and still sacked in his first season, would you think that this was the correct decision?

There are about a billion reasons why this is all madness, and his length of time here is just one

Noone but The Sheikh and Mancini know what goals he was set.

What happens if Mancini meets the goals that were set?

 

[Damocles]

Ask yourselves this:

If the Madrid manager met his stated goal for the year and still sacked in his first season, would you think that this was the correct decision?

There are about a billion reasons why this is all madness, and his length of time here is just one

Noone but The Sheikh and Mancini know what goals he was set.

I thought that early in the season, they said fourth?

 

[Manc in London]

Noone but The Sheikh and Mancini know what goals he was set.

Really? Not even Khaldoon Al Mubarak? Sheikh Mansour's family? Garry Cook? Brian Marwood? A senior player? Like most, I have no idea what goes on at the club. I don't know who is informed about the 'goals'. Is this one of your opinions that you present as 'fact', or is it an actual fact?

 

[Soulboy]

Just don't get the Mancini outers.......why? No consistency = changing fucking managers all the time.

Well said. I can rarely be arsed to post on these Mancini Out threads. They're just too tedious and I tend to ignore them. But I just cannot understand the people who want him out, yes he made a mistake on Monday but if every time a manager made a mistake he got sacked, then about 5 managers in the Premier League would get sacked every weekend. We're doing better under Mancini than we were under Hughes, just look at what he's done to our defence for one thing, second best in the league apart from Chelsea and players like Vincent Kompany and Micah Richards have blossomed since he has been here. For all we know by the end of the season we finish in the top 4 and win the FA Cup, this could be a fantastic season for us, an historic season and people want us to change the manager?! Just be glad for what you have, 12 years ago we were fighting for promotion in Division 2... City are back. Can we not just enjoy it?

Can't argue with that.

Monday was Mancini's first mistake, so why would he be sacked for that? ;-))

But a bit disappointed that there was no mention of York City...

 

[Chippy_boy]

For me, it's not really about the results, it's about how we are playing.

People keep saying "for the money we have spent we should be challenging for the title, not scraping 4th" Or words to that effect.

But it really isn't that simple is it. All of the other top 4 or 5 clubs have been playing much better football than us for years. You cannot just brush these clubs aside and say "we should be better than them because we just spent X". It doesn't work like that. To develop a winning team takes time and you have to build it.

BUT,

What you can expect is to see some steady improvement over time. You can also expect to see some quality in the way you play, even if the results aren't quite there all the time. What you do not expect after £300m and 2 or 3 years is the utter dross we have seen since Christmas this year.

The way we are playing generally is just not good enough after the money we have spent and the time we have been building. In fact it falls woefully short, imho.

 

[Nils]

I'd sack him straight after we lose on saturday.

I've got absolutely no faith that he can turn it around and head off Spurs for 4th. Those who do need a reality check, open your opens. I'd get O'Neill in to lift the players, get them playing for him, ..a nice fat bonus when he gets the job done and show him the door.

 

[Soulboy]

Ask yourselves this:

If the Madrid manager met his stated goal for the year and still sacked in his first season, would you think that this was the correct decision?

There are about a billion reasons why this is all madness, and his length of time here is just one

If the Madrid board made the decision to sack him, then that means, in their view, it was the correct decision. Most supporters wouldn't have enough knowldge of the circumstances to make a judgement, so you trust the board to do that.

Things change. As I have stated on here many times in the past, most managerial decisions are made on gut-feeling rather than in-depth analysis. The decison makers get a feel for things, and use the facts to back up their argument. Football managers do this all the time with regard to signing and selling players.

It wouldn't be the first time a manager won the league and was sacked.

Mancini... anyone?

 

[James23]

I'd sack him straight after we lose on saturday.

I've got absolutely no faith that he can turn it around and head off Spurs for 4th. Those who do need a reality check, open your opens. I'd get O'Neill in to lift the players, get them playing for him, ..a nice fat bonus when he gets the job done and show him the door.

My opens are well and truly opened my open.

 

[Tricky Dickys Right Foot Shot]

Exactly sir. Well said.

Well said? It's the most inarticulate and illogical post on the thread.

It doesn't matter how much money you spend building a team but how long you spend building it

stands as one of the most ill-informed, baseless pieces of toilet I've ever had the misfortune to read.

But I guess anyone who doesn't agree with you DD must be wrong and full of shit eh?

I'm not looking for praise for my comments as most do on here but really I was hoping to help some fellow blues not fall down the hole of delusion thinking that we're the best team in the world with a shit manager, we're like a poor mans Real Madrid sacking managers when we don't reach our targets after a year or 2, its as if though a voice in some peoples heads go "we've not won a trophy this season or qualified for a competition we've never been apart of HANG THE MANAGER, BURN (enter scapegoat players name here)"
Yes Mancini spent a lot but that's inevitable, he's at a club with a lot of funds but no successful background in the past 35 years, a club that had average players and no signs of any stability, he's had to spend big money on players as he couldn't work what was given to him and it wasn't about them being Hughes players just the fact he thought most of them weren't cut up to his style of play.

People go on about managers like Ferguson or Wenger saying you don't get managers like them anymore well that's simply because club owners don't provide the backing up and time these 2 got (bare in mind these clubs were already successful before they were managers at United and Arsenal), look at Wenger built a team for 15+ years and has won nothing in th past 6 years yet Arsenal still stick with him.

 

[ST Coleridge]

Well said? It's the most inarticulate and illogical post on the thread.

It doesn't matter how much money you spend building a team but how long you spend building it

stands as one of the most ill-informed, baseless pieces of toilet I've ever had the misfortune to read.

You're a horribly snide, humourless and graceless individual, incapable of having a debate without trying to drag people down into a slanging match. You know fuck all about football, past '442 is great, Spurs are great'.

And you've been thumping this particular tub for what seems likes years, Dave - everyone on this board is in no doubt what your position is, everyone's heard it all before and everyone can guess your next post. Change the record, you haven't said anything new in six months. The only reason you keep posting, I presume, is so that you can belittle people.

 

[Danny Hoekman]

Can't be arsed doing a long winded reasoned post, so I'll just precis "FORZA MANCINI".

 

[Ragnarok]

Well said? It's the most inarticulate and illogical post on the thread.


stands as one of the most ill-informed, baseless pieces of toilet I've ever had the misfortune to read.

But I guess anyone who doesn't agree with you DD must be wrong and full of shit eh?

I'm not looking for praise for my comments as most do on here but really I was hoping to help some fellow blues not fall down the hole of delusion thinking that we're the best team in the world with a shit manager, we're like a poor mans Real Madrid sacking managers when we don't reach our targets after a year or 2, its as if though a voice in some peoples heads go "we've not won a trophy this season or qualified for a competition we've never been apart of HANG THE MANAGER, BURN (enter scapegoat players name here)"
Yes Mancini spent a lot but that's inevitable, he's at a club with a lot of funds but no successful background in the past 35 years, a club that had average players and no signs of any stability, he's had to spend big money on players as he couldn't work what was given to him and it wasn't about them being Hughes players just the fact he thought most of them weren't cut up to his style of play.

People go on about managers like Ferguson or Wenger saying you don't get managers like them anymore well that's simply because club owners don't provide the backing up and time these 2 got (bare in mind these clubs were already successful before they were managers at United and Arsenal), look at Wenger built a team for 15+ years and has won nothing in th past 6 years yet Arsenal still stick with him.

No point in wasting your time arguing with him . He considers only posts that slate Mancini as worth responding to . According to him , all other posts are "inarticulate" , "ill-informed" , "illogical" etc. Whereas even if a shit one line post is made slagging off Mancini , he will wholeheartedly agree with it.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

Well said? It's the most inarticulate and illogical post on the thread.



stands as one of the most ill-informed, baseless pieces of toilet I've ever had the misfortune to read.

You're a horribly snide, humourless and graceless individual, incapable of having a debate without trying to drag people down into a slanging match. You know fuck all about football, past '442 is great, Spurs are great'.

And you've been thumping this particular tub for what seems likes years, Dave - everyone on this board is in no doubt what your position is, everyone's heard it all before and everyone can guess your next post. Change the record, you haven't said anything new in six months. The only reason you keep posting, I presume, is so that you can belittle people.

Grrrr...here come the attack dogs...

 

[Bluemoon115]

But I guess anyone who doesn't agree with you DD must be wrong and full of shit eh?

I'm not looking for praise for my comments as most do on here but really I was hoping to help some fellow blues not fall down the hole of delusion thinking that we're the best team in the world with a shit manager, we're like a poor mans Real Madrid sacking managers when we don't reach our targets after a year or 2, its as if though a voice in some peoples heads go "we've not won a trophy this season or qualified for a competition we've never been apart of HANG THE MANAGER, BURN (enter scapegoat players name here)"
Yes Mancini spent a lot but that's inevitable, he's at a club with a lot of funds but no successful background in the past 35 years, a club that had average players and no signs of any stability, he's had to spend big money on players as he couldn't work what was given to him and it wasn't about them being Hughes players just the fact he thought most of them weren't cut up to his style of play.

People go on about managers like Ferguson or Wenger saying you don't get managers like them anymore well that's simply because club owners don't provide the backing up and time these 2 got (bare in mind these clubs were already successful before they were managers at United and Arsenal), look at Wenger built a team for 15+ years and has won nothing in th past 6 years yet Arsenal still stick with him.

No point in wasting your time arguing with him . He considers only posts that slate Mancini as worth responding to . According to him , all other posts are "inarticulate" , "ill-informed" , "illogical" etc. Whereas even if a shit one line post is made slagging off Mancini , he will wholeheartedly agree with it.

You lost the right to judge other posters when you told a blue to commit suicide.

 

[Ragnarok]

No point in wasting your time arguing with him . He considers only posts that slate Mancini as worth responding to . According to him , all other posts are "inarticulate" , "ill-informed" , "illogical" etc. Whereas even if a shit one line post is made slagging off Mancini , he will wholeheartedly agree with it.

You lost the right to judge other posters when you told a blue to commit suicide.

According to what court of law?

 

[ST Coleridge]

Grrrr...here come the attack dogs...

Ugh, I was hoping I'd seen the last of your mum...