Mancini out? (merged)

[blueinsa]

Who knows, indeed. I hope Jose is serious about City and not just trying to City as leverage.

One thing is for sure, if he leads us on again i suggest a one way trip to the Arabian desert needs to be organised for him ;-)

It's not a lead on, though, if on the other end of the line is called Begiristain, and he simply dismisses the approach out of hand, refuses to engage in a dance.

Not saying he has, or he will, but it has either been put to bed, or...let's hope it's a decent vintage they drink from...


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSQix6XCI_4[/youtube]

Europe done for Bob, along with Balo and Ferran and Txiki know that unless we establish ourselves at the very top table in Europe and fast, its going to be increasingly difficult regardless of cash or academy.

Mou will drag us kicking and screaming without a doubt, they know that full well.

 

[OB1]

It's not a lead on, though, if on the other end of the line is called Begiristain, and he simply dismisses the approach out of hand, refuses to engage in a dance.

Not saying he has, or he will, but it has either been put to bed, or...let's hope it's a decent vintage they drink from...

I'd be disappointed in Txiki if he didn't very seriously consider an approach from Jose.

I'd be surprised if Mansour wasn't prepared to put his foot down on this, one way or the other.

 

[moomba]

I'd be surprised if Jose wasn't looking at all his options, including us.

 

[OB1]

I'd be surprised if Jose wasn't looking at all his options, including us.

I would have thought so. I'd also have thought that, if we want him, we would be the choice most in his best interests but he may not see it that way. I imagine he would prefer to live in London but he can afford to have homes in Alderley Edge and London.

 

[NipHolmes]

It's not a lead on, though, if on the other end of the line is called Begiristain, and he simply dismisses the approach out of hand, refuses to engage in a dance.

Not saying he has, or he will, but it has either been put to bed, or...let's hope it's a decent vintage they drink from...

I'd be disappointed in Txiki if he didn't very seriously consider an approach from Jose.

I'd be surprised if Mansour wasn't prepared to put his foot down on this, one way or the other.

I'd be shocked if HRH got involved, he's employed good people to oversee this and I can't see him undermining them.

 

[OB1]

It's not a lead on, though, if on the other end of the line is called Begiristain, and he simply dismisses the approach out of hand, refuses to engage in a dance.

Not saying he has, or he will, but it has either been put to bed, or...let's hope it's a decent vintage they drink from...

I'd be disappointed in Txiki if he didn't very seriously consider an approach from Jose.

I'd be surprised if Mansour wasn't prepared to put his foot down on this, one way or the other.

I'd be shocked if HRH got involved, he's employed good people to oversee this and I can't see him undermining them.

Give over, the man who owns a business is always entitled to take the final decision on a major business issue.

 

[bernabias home shirt]

I'd be disappointed in Txiki if he didn't very seriously consider an approach from Jose.

I'd be surprised if Mansour wasn't prepared to put his foot down on this, one way or the other.

I'd be shocked if HRH got involved, he's employed good people to oversee this and I can't see him undermining them.

Give over, the man who owns a business is always entitled to take the final decision on a major business issue.

Exactly
As tolmie said Mansour will have a decision put to him,that is fairly obvious tbh.

 

[CityCTID]

Dream on...

Jose Mourinho will never land City's job

 

[Didsbury Dave]

It's not a lead on, though, if on the other end of the line is called Begiristain, and he simply dismisses the approach out of hand, refuses to engage in a dance.

Not saying he has, or he will, but it has either been put to bed, or...let's hope it's a decent vintage they drink from...

I'd be disappointed in Txiki if he didn't very seriously consider an approach from Jose.

I'd be surprised if Mansour wasn't prepared to put his foot down on this, one way or the other.

They wouldn't be so stupid as to reject the best chance they have of achieving their own targets. I just can't see it. Soriano is expected to put £100m on revenues within a few years. Only a fool would turn that down and take a gamble. Same with Khaldoon. He might not know much about football but he knows how to back a horse, surely.

 

[bluetrue]

Dream on...

Jose Mourinho will never land City's job

Cheers for that valuable insight.

At least we all know now.

 

[petrusha]

Give over, the man who owns a business is always entitled to take the final decision on a major business issue.

Especially when he's invested as much in it as our guy has. And the primary downside that many would identify in relation to employing Jose are reputational issues, which is exactly something on which Mansour would have to make the final call.

There's enough information in the public domain from apparently well sourced commentators on Barca to suggest that Ferran and Txiki were extremely impressed by Mourinho's interview for the Barca job. Moreover, he was reportedly willing to meet the club's requirements in terms of the style of play and working with the DoF. They passed on him only because they had a considerable and, it turned out, justified belief in an internal candidate whom they saw as a better cultural fit.

Nonetheless, accounts of the process seem to suggest genuine respect between the persons who are now in executive roles at our club and the one who may covet our manager's job. One would hope, therefore, that it wouldn't be beyond the parties to find an accommodation in the current context.

I'm hopeful that Jose wouldn't be using us as leverage, though I suppose you never know. Chelsea would be the one that's the main worry, I think, but Jose has worked for Abramovich before and would surely know that the elements that caused the relationship to sour the last time would surely still be equally pervasive factors were he to return to that particular post?

 

[Gelsons Dad]

Mou will be in London or Paris next season. ;-)

 

[Rolee]

Give over, the man who owns a business is always entitled to take the final decision on a major business issue.

Especially when he's invested as much in it as our guy has. And the primary downside that many would identify in relation to employing Jose are reputational issues, which is exactly something on which Mansour would have to make the final call.

There's enough information in the public domain from apparently well sourced commentators on Barca to suggest that Ferran and Txiki were extremely impressed by Mourinho's interview for the Barca job. Moreover, he was reportedly willing to meet the club's requirements in terms of the style of play and working with the DoF. They passed on him only because they had a considerable and, it turned out, justified belief in an internal candidate whom they saw as a better cultural fit.

Nonetheless, accounts of the process seem to suggest genuine respect between the persons who are now in executive roles at our club and the one who may covet our manager's job. One would hope, therefore, that it wouldn't be beyond the parties to find an accommodation in the current context.

I'm hopeful that Jose wouldn't be using us as leverage, though I suppose you never know. Chelsea would be the one that's the main worry, I think, but Jose has worked for Abramovich before and would surely know that the elements that caused the relationship to sour the last time would surely still be equally pervasive factors were he to return to that particular post?

From what I've read it appears the opposite is the case in relation to how Txixi views Jose. Could you point me in the direction of where these commentators express that view? Thanks in advance.

 

[NipHolmes]

Just putting this out there.

Mancini loves Balotelli as we know. Imo Mancini had Mario sold out of his hands. Mourinho is not a fan of Balotelli and called him unmanageable.

Make of it what you will.<br /><br />-- Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:34 am --<br /><br />

I'd be disappointed in Txiki if he didn't very seriously consider an approach from Jose.

I'd be surprised if Mansour wasn't prepared to put his foot down on this, one way or the other.

I'd be shocked if HRH got involved, he's employed good people to oversee this and I can't see him undermining them.

Give over, the man who owns a business is always entitled to take the final decision on a major business issue.

Of course he is.

I just don't think he'd meddle. The Barca two have a proven track record, he employed them because he trusts their judgement. If they say no and give good reasoning then I'd expect HRH and his wing man Khaldoon to respect that.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

Give over, the man who owns a business is always entitled to take the final decision on a major business issue.

Especially when he's invested as much in it as our guy has. And the primary downside that many would identify in relation to employing Jose are reputational issues, which is exactly something on which Mansour would have to make the final call.

There's enough information in the public domain from apparently well sourced commentators on Barca to suggest that Ferran and Txiki were extremely impressed by Mourinho's interview for the Barca job. Moreover, he was reportedly willing to meet the club's requirements in terms of the style of play and working with the DoF. They passed on him only because they had a considerable and, it turned out, justified belief in an internal candidate whom they saw as a better cultural fit.

Nonetheless, accounts of the process seem to suggest genuine respect between the persons who are now in executive roles at our club and the one who may covet our manager's job. One would hope, therefore, that it wouldn't be beyond the parties to find an accommodation in the current context.

I'm hopeful that Jose wouldn't be using us as leverage, though I suppose you never know. Chelsea would be the one that's the main worry, I think, but Jose has worked for Abramovich before and would surely know that the elements that caused the relationship to sour the last time would surely still be equally pervasive factors were he to return to that particular post?

From what I've read it appears the opposite is the case in relation to how Txixi views Jose. Could you point me in the direction of where these commentators express that view? Thanks in advance.

PMSL. You never quite drop that passive-aggressive tone, do you?

 

[Rolee]

Especially when he's invested as much in it as our guy has. And the primary downside that many would identify in relation to employing Jose are reputational issues, which is exactly something on which Mansour would have to make the final call.

There's enough information in the public domain from apparently well sourced commentators on Barca to suggest that Ferran and Txiki were extremely impressed by Mourinho's interview for the Barca job. Moreover, he was reportedly willing to meet the club's requirements in terms of the style of play and working with the DoF. They passed on him only because they had a considerable and, it turned out, justified belief in an internal candidate whom they saw as a better cultural fit.

Nonetheless, accounts of the process seem to suggest genuine respect between the persons who are now in executive roles at our club and the one who may covet our manager's job. One would hope, therefore, that it wouldn't be beyond the parties to find an accommodation in the current context.

I'm hopeful that Jose wouldn't be using us as leverage, though I suppose you never know. Chelsea would be the one that's the main worry, I think, but Jose has worked for Abramovich before and would surely know that the elements that caused the relationship to sour the last time would surely still be equally pervasive factors were he to return to that particular post?

From what I've read it appears the opposite is the case in relation to how Txixi views Jose. Could you point me in the direction of where these commentators express that view? Thanks in advance.

PMSL. You never quite drop that passive-aggressive tone, do you?

What are you talking about? I'm asking for a link to read the opinions of the commentators that Petrusha said are in the public domain, that's all.

You've got me completely wrong. I come on here to contribute, gauge opinion and first and foremost to educate myself as much as I can as to what is going on at the club, that is why I'm asking a question.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

From what I've read it appears the opposite is the case in relation to how Txixi views Jose. Could you point me in the direction of where these commentators express that view? Thanks in advance.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2012/oct/28/pep-guardiola-manchester-city

Two paragraphs from the article (by Sid Lowe) which are relevant.

Yet Barcelona had begun a slide under Rijkaard and even before the 2007-08 season was finished Begiristain had determined a change was needed, even as some on the board resisted. The decision may even have come late, but it did finally come. Begiristain said Rijkaard had lost control of the dressing room.

Begiristain had travelled to Lisbon with two directors, Marc Ingla and Ferran Soriano, to see Mourinho. The presentation was impressive but Begiristain, Soriano and Ingla were not keen; there was something about his personality that did not fit. They would win, sure, but it was not enough simply to win.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

Just putting this out there.

Mancini loves Balotelli as we know. Imo Mancini had Mario sold out of his hands. Mourinho is not a fan of Balotelli and called him unmanageable.

Make of it what you will.

-- Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:34 am --

I'd be shocked if HRH got involved, he's employed good people to oversee this and I can't see him undermining them.

Give over, the man who owns a business is always entitled to take the final decision on a major business issue.

Of course he is.

I just don't think he'd meddle. The Barca two have a proven track record, he employed them because he trusts their judgement. If they say no and give good reasoning then I'd expect HRH and his wing man Khaldoon to respect that.

A plausible theory, mate, but doesn't fit in with the actual timeline of the last few days.

As Gelson states, it would also be foolish to dismiss Chelsea or Paris. IMO, major building jobs in themselves.

And with the greatest respect, Manchester simply cannot compete on most levels, God's own club, aside.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

And another:
http://www.sabotagetimes.com/reportage/how-real-madrids-mourinho-failed-his-barca-job-interview/

 

[Klopp Flop]

Desperate Mourinho is dead man walking...

Two weeks away from a busted trophy-less season.

Oh music to my ear.....