Mancini out? (merged)

[chesterbells]

It's a point I've made many times mate and one I think you and i have discussed before. The way to beat a defensive team is to stretch them and get behind them and deliver balls into the box. A flat cross coming at a defender from behind him is muchharder to defend that one coming from in front of him. Richards can do it but we've missed him all season. Milner can do it quite well. Maicon can actually do it ok too. Kolorov can. But all of our players who can go outside defenders and deliver these flat crosses are not first choice players, and are naturally defensive players. Apart from Micah who we have missed dreadfully. Our attack minded players do not do this. Silva and nasri come inside players and play through the middle. So do aguero and Tevez.

It's one of the big imbalances in our squad. We try to readdress this with the 352 but that brings it own problems defensively, especially when we are relying on Maicon and kolorov as the only effective crossers from wing back. Neither can get back to defend quickly enough.

Interesting discussion. Crosses have had some bad press recently. Knew I'd read it somewhere, this is the quickest I could find:

<a class="postlink" href="http://blogs.thescore.com/counterattack/2012/07/17/the-state-of-analytics-crosses-are-not-an-efficient-way-to-score-goals" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://blogs.thescore.com/counterattack ... core-goals</a>—kuper/

I agree about uniteds effectiveness being in part due to their wide players, but I also take seriously this analysis about crosses and goals.
I think with them it is the combination of stretching the play, taller players, crosses - and above all our old friend pace.

I don't think crosses are the be all and end all. Far from it. When we were at our best we were all about two touch football, movement and quick breaks, as danamy says above. Getting behind teams is the way to beat stubborn, defensive teams. Particularly late in the game. We let ourselves get pushed too deep a lot these days, a problem we had in the 2011 season which we largely cured but now it's back. Our holding players get sucked too deep, there's a big gap between them and the attacking four, meaning we can't get the link play going and we surrender midfield control. Liverpool home and Southampton were good examples of this. Mancini doesn't seem to see this or address it enough.

Indeed, wouldn't disagree with that - and you're preaching to the converted at the end there.

 

[Yaya_Tony]

If Mancini left to be replaced by Mourinho, I'm absolutely certain that Jose would have the vast majority of City supporters eating out of his hand in short order.

Without a shadow of doubt.

Bobs biggest fans could become Jose biggest critics, Dave and Billy could take a well earned rest from playing the pantomime villains and the world will continue to revolve, just has it has always done ;-)

Whilst I'm certain most City fans who back Mancini would back whoever the manager is should our Bob leave, the comedy part of this part is the 'well earned' part. Dave and billy only get so much shit because they are stubborn, there could have been an end to it donkeys ago if they had wanted. Either not posting so much about it, or enjoying the moment a bit more. They aren't doing either, so to an extent I suspect they revel in it. Fair play if that is what they want. Tactics talk/criticism is one thing though, seeking out replacements quite another.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

If Mancini left to be replaced by Mourinho, I'm absolutely certain that Jose would have the vast majority of City supporters eating out of his hand in short order.

Without a shadow of doubt.

Bobs biggest fans could become Jose biggest critics, Dave and Billy could take a well earned rest from playing the pantomime villains and the world will continue to revolve, just has it has always done ;-)

Whilst I'm certain most City fans who back Mancini would back whoever the manager is should our Bob leave, the comedy part of this part is the 'well earned' part. Dave and billy only get so much shit because they are stubborn, there could have been an end to it donkeys ago if they had wanted. Either not posting so much about it, or enjoying the moment a bit more. They aren't doing either, so to an extent I suspect they revel in it. Fair play if that is what they want. Tactics talk/criticism is one thing though, seeking out replacements quite another.

Sorry mate, but I'm not being dictated to about what I post by anyone on here. I don't 'revel' in anything, I'm a passionate blue and i post my opinion which I genuinely believe. And the managerial situation is important and something I care about.

It's just football talk, mate, nothing more. I talk to city fans all the time, my mates and family nearly all support city. No one gets all uppity or territorial when we discuss the manager. It's only on here you get divs who want to get aggressive and stupid about simple football talk. It should be obvious to anyone that blueinsa is joking in that post anyway.

If I didn't enjoy supporting city I wouldn't go to as many games as I go to. I've got a lot more in my life than Manchester city, I promise you.

 

[andyhinch]

I'll spout some bollocks because no one can be arsed reading it, I've posted before and my post it again, if your mad enough to read more follow me at.



#sadfucksproutingthesame.com

 

[dronefromsector7g]

Without a shadow of doubt.

Bobs biggest fans could become Jose biggest critics, Dave and Billy could take a well earned rest from playing the pantomime villains and the world will continue to revolve, just has it has always done ;-)

Whilst I'm certain most City fans who back Mancini would back whoever the manager is should our Bob leave, the comedy part of this part is the 'well earned' part. Dave and billy only get so much shit because they are stubborn, there could have been an end to it donkeys ago if they had wanted. Either not posting so much about it, or enjoying the moment a bit more. They aren't doing either, so to an extent I suspect they revel in it. Fair play if that is what they want. Tactics talk/criticism is one thing though, seeking out replacements quite another.

Sorry mate, but I'm not being dictated to about what I post by anyone on here. I don't 'revel' in anything, I'm a passionate blue and i post my opinion which I genuinely believe. And the managerial situation is important and something I care about.

It's just football talk, mate, nothing more. I talk to city fans all the time, my mates and family nearly all support city. No one gets all uppity or territorial when we discuss the manager. It's only on here you get divs who want to get aggressive and stupid about simple football talk. It should be obvious to anyone that blueinsa is joking in that post anyway.

If I didn't enjoy supporting city I wouldn't go to as many games as I go to. I've got a lot more in my life than Manchester city, I promise you.

I don't spend much time up here but I think you get a lot of undeserved flak from posters just because you see weaknesses in Mancini and players. In everyday life I see a lot of fans are okay to discuss things without getting angry. i was surprised how many people on here just bring out lines like "look where we were 10 years ago, mancini's won us 1st title in 44 years." TBF I don't want Mancini gone cos I want the stability, but I sure understand when people say they want change.

 

[Yaya_Tony]

Saw an interesting stat on Revista last night which puts Mourinho's tenure at Madrid into perspective. He recently completed his 100th La Liga game in charge of Madrid, and he has the best win ratio (76%) of any manager in the history of that football club. Bar none. Bearing in mind some of the playing and managerial legends that have represented that football club, that's one impressive stat. For those who bemoan his negative approach, 283 goals scored.

And for madrid thats a failure
A cup and one title in 3 years

Did you even read what I posted? The best win ratio from his first 100 League games in the history of that football club. Achieved against the backdrop of the best Barcelona team in history.

Did they play Barcelona 100 times? This comment holds about as much credence as the one that makes us runners up if we take away the derby matches from last year, none. So Madrid have become more dominant, it'd be impossible not to given the Spanish structure, but, not dominant enough as despite what the record says, the trophy haul disagrees.

Overall it seems like one rule for the manager of our club and one rule for the manager of others, which right in the middle of our most successful period in the modern era, is a crying shame and damning indictment on the modern fan.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

Whilst I'm certain most City fans who back Mancini would back whoever the manager is should our Bob leave, the comedy part of this part is the 'well earned' part. Dave and billy only get so much shit because they are stubborn, there could have been an end to it donkeys ago if they had wanted. Either not posting so much about it, or enjoying the moment a bit more. They aren't doing either, so to an extent I suspect they revel in it. Fair play if that is what they want. Tactics talk/criticism is one thing though, seeking out replacements quite another.

Sorry mate, but I'm not being dictated to about what I post by anyone on here. I don't 'revel' in anything, I'm a passionate blue and i post my opinion which I genuinely believe. And the managerial situation is important and something I care about.

It's just football talk, mate, nothing more. I talk to city fans all the time, my mates and family nearly all support city. No one gets all uppity or territorial when we discuss the manager. It's only on here you get divs who want to get aggressive and stupid about simple football talk. It should be obvious to anyone that blueinsa is joking in that post anyway.

If I didn't enjoy supporting city I wouldn't go to as many games as I go to. I've got a lot more in my life than Manchester city, I promise you.

I don't spend much time up here but I think you get a lot of undeserved flak from posters just because you see weaknesses in Mancini and players. In everyday life I see a lot of fans are okay to discuss things without getting angry. i was surprised how many people on here just bring out lines like "look where we were 10 years ago, mancini's won us 1st title in 44 years." TBF I don't want Mancini gone cos I want the stability, but I sure understand when people say they want change.

Fair enough mate. In real life fans talk like you and I are doing and everyone understands each other, even though we might not agree. But on here at times the loudest voices are the ones like the one right above yours. Antagonistic, ignorant and of no value to anyone. That's how it is I suppose. Unlike in real life you can exercise no choice in who presses 'reply' next.

You learn who is worth talking to, and at times can have great debate, like the few pages before this one.

 

[andyhinch]

Whilst I'm certain most City fans who back Mancini would back whoever the manager is should our Bob leave, the comedy part of this part is the 'well earned' part. Dave and billy only get so much shit because they are stubborn, there could have been an end to it donkeys ago if they had wanted. Either not posting so much about it, or enjoying the moment a bit more. They aren't doing either, so to an extent I suspect they revel in it. Fair play if that is what they want. Tactics talk/criticism is one thing though, seeking out replacements quite another.

Sorry mate, but I'm not being dictated to about what I post by anyone on here. I don't 'revel' in anything, I'm a passionate blue and i post my opinion which I genuinely believe. And the managerial situation is important and something I care about.

It's just football talk, mate, nothing more. I talk to city fans all the time, my mates and family nearly all support city. No one gets all uppity or territorial when we discuss the manager. It's only on here you get divs who want to get aggressive and stupid about simple football talk. It should be obvious to anyone that blueinsa is joking in that post anyway.

If I didn't enjoy supporting city I wouldn't go to as many games as I go to. I've got a lot more in my life than Manchester city, I promise you.

I don't spend much time up here but I think you get a lot of undeserved flak from posters just because you see weaknesses in Mancini and players. In everyday life I see a lot of fans are okay to discuss things without getting angry. i was surprised how many people on here just bring out lines like "look where we were 10 years ago, mancini's won us 1st title in 44 years." TBF I don't want Mancini gone cos I want the stability, but I sure understand when people say they want change.

This, good poster as is Billy, don't like a bit of the I know best attitude at times, I've probably been to as many games as the two of them put togheher

 

[Yaya_Tony]

It would be physically impossible for Mourinho (or in fact any manager) to move from City to United in the current climate. It's a non issue for me.



I wouldn't say it's a small time mentality, in fact, I understand completely the point you're making. Now more than ever we need a steady hand, a real leader at the club who understands and can manage the expectations of both the supporters and the owners. Someone who can keep his head when all around them may lose theirs. Someone who will inspire in players the need and want to go the extra mile for them.



With respect I think you're veering into what I consider over emotional territory. No one disputes that Mancini is an excellent coach. Even I don't dispute that. The comparisons between him and the managers you mention is down to their relative achievements. It is an indisputable fact that even with the masses of money which Moratti gave to Mancini, he didn't come close to winning the CL. He also only managed his league successes after Calciopoli when the Italian league was for all intents and purposes a joke.

Now that may seem like I'm being disrespectful but I'm not. What happened there during that period was unprecedented. Mancini no doubt still had to go out and accumulate the points he did, however it's not an exaggeration to say that it is the equivalent of the rags buying RVP, us being relegated, and Spurs, Chelsea, and Arsenal all being docked 10/20 points. The league would be a joke, as the Italian league was.

So yes, Mancini has trophies, and yes he for his age is a very successful coach and one who is very good at his job. But he isn't in the same league as guys like Klopp, Mourinho, Pep, and yes, even Wenger. These guys have all (I guess with the exception of Pep) managed achievements which totally eclipse Mancini's. All in my opinion of course.

Good arguements made Billy.

On the issue of Mourinho being our Manager and leaving us - I did say it was "far fetched" but as a City fan I am more used to worrying than winning!

I worry a lot that the few posters on here who want a change of Manager may be right and my views are wrong. I worry even more that we might throw away a lot of the gains we have made in such a short space of time by changing the Manager. A new Manager doesn't just change tactics he changes players usually wholesale changes !

The "Meeting with Pelligrini" thread at the moment is discussing how our new Management structure should mean that change "is accomodated easily" so we could take a bit of a punt.

Right now however, for all his documented faults (and I was just about to throw in my views when the Boaeting stuff appeared yesterday which didn't reflect well on Mancini) I believe we have a guy in charge who has won and will win more Trophies. This Mancini side at its best combines the power of Jose's Chelsea and the flair of Wengers "Invincibles". A couple of changes in the Summer to adress obvious faults such as a lack of pace and we can go again.

Much better than starting again.

I might be a long term and passionate advocate for changing managers, but I'm not worried. The long term prognosis for this club is nothing but glory. Whether its Mancini who brings it or another manager, you don't have a squad like this and funds/ambitions like ours and not get to the top of the tree sooner or later. My concern is that Mancini hasn't the right skills to get the best out of these players, and I believe that should we sack him, a new manager won't have to work too hard to get us to fulfill our potential. A couple of signings, a decent manager and we will be pushing for champions league glory in a year or two. Hart, kompany, silva, aguero, toure backed up with Richards, clichy, Barry is the spine of a really good team.

Don't be frightened of change, fella. There's too much going on at city for this project to go tits up. Don't listen to the York police playing things down, either. That's either lack of knowledge of the game or protection for Mancini. A new manager won't be starting again, they'll be given a rather brilliant canvas to paint on. One of the highest quality squads in Europe. Or maybe Mancini will prove you right and suddenly turn things around...

Either way, don't fear for the future. For the first time in a long time we have proper football men running the club who won't be afraid to make tough decisions of necessary. The future for city is rosy.

Certainly agree with most of that, the future is ours.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

Sorry mate, but I'm not being dictated to about what I post by anyone on here. I don't 'revel' in anything, I'm a passionate blue and i post my opinion which I genuinely believe. And the managerial situation is important and something I care about.

It's just football talk, mate, nothing more. I talk to city fans all the time, my mates and family nearly all support city. No one gets all uppity or territorial when we discuss the manager. It's only on here you get divs who want to get aggressive and stupid about simple football talk. It should be obvious to anyone that blueinsa is joking in that post anyway.

If I didn't enjoy supporting city I wouldn't go to as many games as I go to. I've got a lot more in my life than Manchester city, I promise you.

I don't spend much time up here but I think you get a lot of undeserved flak from posters just because you see weaknesses in Mancini and players. In everyday life I see a lot of fans are okay to discuss things without getting angry. i was surprised how many people on here just bring out lines like "look where we were 10 years ago, mancini's won us 1st title in 44 years." TBF I don't want Mancini gone cos I want the stability, but I sure understand when people say they want change.

This, good poster as is Billy, don't like a bit of the I know best attitude at times, I've probably been to as many games as the two of them put togheher

Good lord. Have you been drinking? You are coming across like a tramp who has stumbled into a wedding.

 

[Yaya_Tony]

What do you do when a team is happy to play two rows of 5 and are happy to stay like that even when they are 1 and 2 goals down?

Even Barcelona struggle when teams do that and it only usually happen in champs league games, teams in the Spanish league try to have a go..

We have struggled with lots of teams (Dortmund , Liverpool, Ajax, Southampton have all done it twice) who have pressed us high up the park and attacked us. And back in the 'golden era' of the first half of last season, loads of teams defended deep against us. We used to play at such a tempo we'd put five past them.

Man utd have faced defensive teams for years and have worked out ways of going round them.

Do you know what's even more baffling, the team we played against Spurs last season and the team we played against Southampton last week only had one change (Kompany for Garcia) the rest of the side is exactly the same?.........what the fuck has happened?

Take 10 mins of your time and watch the highlights of that Spurs game again, the movement, switching play, interplay, tempo, attack with pace, tempo, tempo, tempo, what the fuck has gone wrong?

Remember these are the same 10 players that took to the field at Southampton...........

That is interesting, but I'd suggest a couple of factors. Not the best season we've had so far, a different time of year, Yaya was only back a few days before the match so missed training, didn't play well, last year vs Spurs we were more of an unknown package, Saints knew more about how to play us, and no Vinnie, which is important.

 

[Yaya_Tony]

Without a shadow of doubt.

Bobs biggest fans could become Jose biggest critics, Dave and Billy could take a well earned rest from playing the pantomime villains and the world will continue to revolve, just has it has always done ;-)

Whilst I'm certain most City fans who back Mancini would back whoever the manager is should our Bob leave, the comedy part of this part is the 'well earned' part. Dave and billy only get so much shit because they are stubborn, there could have been an end to it donkeys ago if they had wanted. Either not posting so much about it, or enjoying the moment a bit more. They aren't doing either, so to an extent I suspect they revel in it. Fair play if that is what they want. Tactics talk/criticism is one thing though, seeking out replacements quite another.

Sorry mate, but I'm not being dictated to about what I post by anyone on here. I don't 'revel' in anything, I'm a passionate blue and i post my opinion which I genuinely believe. And the managerial situation is important and something I care about.

It's just football talk, mate, nothing more. I talk to city fans all the time, my mates and family nearly all support city. No one gets all uppity or territorial when we discuss the manager. It's only on here you get divs who want to get aggressive and stupid about simple football talk. It should be obvious to anyone that blueinsa is joking in that post anyway.

If I didn't enjoy supporting city I wouldn't go to as many games as I go to. I've got a lot more in my life than Manchester city, I promise you.

I appreciate that mate, I do, I know from some of your other posts that you bleed blue, but knowing that and knowing that neither myself or any of my match going or non match going blue friends bar one nutcase want to see a managerial change at the moment, yet you state it as a topic regularly discussed with the outcome of a change being the way forward, I feel your view is a bit skewed. If I'm wrong and next season we have someone else then that is fine with me (as long as it is best for the club), but I don't think we will have.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

Whilst I'm certain most City fans who back Mancini would back whoever the manager is should our Bob leave, the comedy part of this part is the 'well earned' part. Dave and billy only get so much shit because they are stubborn, there could have been an end to it donkeys ago if they had wanted. Either not posting so much about it, or enjoying the moment a bit more. They aren't doing either, so to an extent I suspect they revel in it. Fair play if that is what they want. Tactics talk/criticism is one thing though, seeking out replacements quite another.

Sorry mate, but I'm not being dictated to about what I post by anyone on here. I don't 'revel' in anything, I'm a passionate blue and i post my opinion which I genuinely believe. And the managerial situation is important and something I care about.

It's just football talk, mate, nothing more. I talk to city fans all the time, my mates and family nearly all support city. No one gets all uppity or territorial when we discuss the manager. It's only on here you get divs who want to get aggressive and stupid about simple football talk. It should be obvious to anyone that blueinsa is joking in that post anyway.

If I didn't enjoy supporting city I wouldn't go to as many games as I go to. I've got a lot more in my life than Manchester city, I promise you.

I appreciate that mate, I do, I know from some of your other posts that you bleed blue, but knowing that and knowing that neither myself or any of my match going or non match going blue friends bar one nutcase want to see a managerial change at the moment, yet you state it as a topic regularly discussed with the outcome of a change being the way forward, I feel your view is a bit skewed. If I'm wrong and next season we have someone else then that is fine with me (as long as it is best for the club), but I don't think we will have.

Neither of us know whether there will be a managerial change or not, of course. I have never stated that there will be, only that I want there to be. So my view isn't 'skewed', it's just an opinion, like yours.

Lets see what happens when the dust settles on the season. I'll be there next year whatever.

 

[Yaya_Tony]

Sorry mate, but I'm not being dictated to about what I post by anyone on here. I don't 'revel' in anything, I'm a passionate blue and i post my opinion which I genuinely believe. And the managerial situation is important and something I care about.

It's just football talk, mate, nothing more. I talk to city fans all the time, my mates and family nearly all support city. No one gets all uppity or territorial when we discuss the manager. It's only on here you get divs who want to get aggressive and stupid about simple football talk. It should be obvious to anyone that blueinsa is joking in that post anyway.

If I didn't enjoy supporting city I wouldn't go to as many games as I go to. I've got a lot more in my life than Manchester city, I promise you.

I appreciate that mate, I do, I know from some of your other posts that you bleed blue, but knowing that and knowing that neither myself or any of my match going or non match going blue friends bar one nutcase want to see a managerial change at the moment, yet you state it as a topic regularly discussed with the outcome of a change being the way forward, I feel your view is a bit skewed. If I'm wrong and next season we have someone else then that is fine with me (as long as it is best for the club), but I don't think we will have.

Neither of us know whether there will be a managerial change or not, of course. I have never stated that there will be, only that I want there to be. So my view isn't 'skewed', it's just an opinion, like yours.

Lets see what happens when the dust settles on the season. I'll be there next year whatever.

It's when you start mentioning "the majority of City fans" that I think your view is skewed as it doesn't represent anyone I know, not your own opinion which of course you are entitled to.

For the record I think the best outcome at the end of the season is we keep Mancini, but in the unlikely event (imo) that doesn't happen, I'll still be here too and here whatever the situation.

 

[Blue Haze]

I think it will be an amicable parting. He has opportunities, Roma look especially eager.

Pellegrini is interesting. Whoever it is, he must have the ability to repair the damage to our reputation in Europe. Many will laugh it off, but I do think it's serious to be an object of mockery when we're trying to grow turnover. The sheikh spent this money to grow the brand, and that won't happen when Ajax are making us look like moneyed up pretenders. FFP means that advancing and doing well will have a serious impact on our transfer window spending.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

I appreciate that mate, I do, I know from some of your other posts that you bleed blue, but knowing that and knowing that neither myself or any of my match going or non match going blue friends bar one nutcase want to see a managerial change at the moment, yet you state it as a topic regularly discussed with the outcome of a change being the way forward, I feel your view is a bit skewed. If I'm wrong and next season we have someone else then that is fine with me (as long as it is best for the club), but I don't think we will have.

Neither of us know whether there will be a managerial change or not, of course. I have never stated that there will be, only that I want there to be. So my view isn't 'skewed', it's just an opinion, like yours.

Lets see what happens when the dust settles on the season. I'll be there next year whatever.

It's when you start mentioning "the majority of City fans" that I think your view is skewed as it doesn't represent anyone I know, not your own opinion which of course you are entitled to.

For the record I think the best outcome at the end of the season is we keep Mancini, but in the unlikely event (imo) that doesn't happen, I'll still be here too and here whatever the situation.

You didn't read it. I said the majority of city would want Jose mourinho to be our manager should Mancini be sacked. I didn't say that I believe that the majority want him sacked, that's a totally different point.

As it stands I don't think the majority want mancini sacked. This may have changed by the end of the season of course because opinions like this fluctuate wildly according to results.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

I think it will be an amicable parting. He has opportunities, Roma look especially eager.

Pellegrini is interesting. Whoever it is, he must have the ability to repair the damage to our reputation in Europe. Many will laugh it off, but I do think it's serious to be an object of mockery when we're trying to grow turnover. The sheikh spent this money to grow the brand, and that won't happen when Ajax are making us look like moneyed up pretenders. FFP means that advancing and doing well will have a serious impact on our transfer window spending.

Really good post. City's entire business model now is about sky rocketing the top line, and quickly. Soriano is believed to have very aggressive targets on this and, regardless of fan's expectations and loyalties, this will have major impact on the managerial situation. Failure won't be tolerated, and the bar is very high.

 

[dronefromsector7g]

DD, who do you think will be the manager next year? (Barring a miraculous league win)

 

[WNRH]

Sorry mate, but I'm not being dictated to about what I post by anyone on here. I don't 'revel' in anything, I'm a passionate blue and i post my opinion which I genuinely believe. And the managerial situation is important and something I care about.

It's just football talk, mate, nothing more. I talk to city fans all the time, my mates and family nearly all support city. No one gets all uppity or territorial when we discuss the manager. It's only on here you get divs who want to get aggressive and stupid about simple football talk. It should be obvious to anyone that blueinsa is joking in that post anyway.

If I didn't enjoy supporting city I wouldn't go to as many games as I go to. I've got a lot more in my life than Manchester city, I promise you.

I appreciate that mate, I do, I know from some of your other posts that you bleed blue, but knowing that and knowing that neither myself or any of my match going or non match going blue friends bar one nutcase want to see a managerial change at the moment, yet you state it as a topic regularly discussed with the outcome of a change being the way forward, I feel your view is a bit skewed. If I'm wrong and next season we have someone else then that is fine with me (as long as it is best for the club), but I don't think we will have.

Neither of us know whether there will be a managerial change or not, of course. I have never stated that there will be, only that I want there to be. So my view isn't 'skewed', it's just an opinion, like yours.

Lets see what happens when the dust settles on the season. I'll be there next year whatever.

You should have said that last time when you were convinced he was getting sacked and Mourinho was coming!

 

[Yaya_Tony]

Neither of us know whether there will be a managerial change or not, of course. I have never stated that there will be, only that I want there to be. So my view isn't 'skewed', it's just an opinion, like yours.

Lets see what happens when the dust settles on the season. I'll be there next year whatever.

It's when you start mentioning "the majority of City fans" that I think your view is skewed as it doesn't represent anyone I know, not your own opinion which of course you are entitled to.

For the record I think the best outcome at the end of the season is we keep Mancini, but in the unlikely event (imo) that doesn't happen, I'll still be here too and here whatever the situation.

You didn't read it. I said the majority of city would want Jose mourinho to be our manager should Mancini be sacked. I didn't say that I believe that the majority want him sacked, that's a totally different point.

As it stands I don't think the majority want mancini sacked. This may have changed by the end of the season of course because opinions like this fluctuate wildly according to results.

I did read it. Most City fans I know aren't thinking past Mancini as it seems unnecessary given the limited alternative options and success so far. If they did, most think Mourinho is still a ****, who imo had his chance but went to Madrid. So what I said, that your view doesn't represent the majority, is true. Some would welcome him, others not, all would still support the club.

opinions like this fluctuate wildly according to results

Our current course is safe second and a match away from FA Cup semi. If we do what is expected from now til May then I wouldn't be complaining. Then we go again next season without wholesale changes.