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dancity19 said:
St Helens Blue (Exiled) said:
dancity19 said:
Brilliant.

Please show me where I have shown my apparent 'love for Mourinho', as I didn't realise I had.
And supporting our most successful manager doesn't make you insightful by the way. It makes you supportive of our manager, but you might want to check the dictionary definition of insightful.

I happen to think Mourinho is a better manager than Mancini, but would love you to show me where I have shown on this thread I 'love' him, as you accuse me of doing.

I love City. I support City like you do. I go to the games week in week out, so I don't think my support can be questioned. The problem with this whole argument is it is all about taking the moral high ground. Posters who are 'FORZA MANCINI' immedietly believe they are supporting the club better somehow just because they are completely behind the manager.

Please though, like I said, re read what posts I have made. I just think Mancini could be doing a better job this year. He is underperforming- without question.

Anyway mate, I'll keep taking the pills....for what., I'm not quite sure....didn't really understand that one.

Why not email the club then..Tell them your concerns etc.

Having won the league in May last year and you (and many) now want our clubs manager to take a walk because we MAY not win something this season is quite simply fucking laughable. I bet you were singing his name 8 months ago.
You are entitled to your opinion but your blind idiocy twds our current manager is somewhat strange. Why do you think the rags have been so successful? Do you think going back to chopping and changing manager every season or 2 is going to bring stability and more success. Mourinho has done fuck all at Madrid this year. He is a good manager but not what we need.

Ok- I'm intrigued to know what my blind idiocy is regading Mancini? You keep saying these things, but not sure if you can back it up with some blindly idiotic comments I have made.

Thinking supporting our manager makes you 'insightful'- thats idiotic.

My concerns about Mancini aren't that we might not win a trophy this year. It's that he has failed all year, barring a few games that can be counted on one hand, to get the most out of the team. We look a shadow of last year. Now you might say that is because teams have wised up to us- well if so, where is our plan B.

We are 12 points behind a (probably) inferior squad. Mancini is a good manager, there is no question. I like him, and am forever grateful to him for what he has done. But there is no room for standing still in football. Nor is there any room for sentiment. Whilst he is a good manager, I am not sure he is a great manager. A manager that makes players overperform.

If for the last part of the season can get our players back to playing at the best of their abilities, then brilliant. I would love a manager to stick around for a long time, for City to build a dynasty, and for one man to be behind it. I would love us to have our own Ferguson. But I am just not sure Mancini is good enough. You only have to look what Mourinho did with the same squad of players at Inter.

Mancini has been great for us, and brought us memories we will never forget, but this doesn't mean he can't be questioned.

What did the rags do when they didn't win a trophy?? Sack Ferguson? No.

Sometimes you just have to hold your hands up and say "you know something,this season isn't our year.So let's regroup,rebuild in summer and go again" But you just want Mancini fired off because you are not sure he is good enough. Not sure he is good enough???Fuck sake he has won us 3 trophies in 3 years..What more can the man do...You would love us to have our own Ferguson?? Well sacking Mancini certainly isn't the way to go if that is what you want.<br /><br />-- Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:08 pm --<br /><br />
Didsbury Dave said:
St Helens Blue (Exiled) said:
He's been good enough the past 3 seasons so what has changed? The european scenario? With respect back mate united,Arsenal,Chelsea all would have struggled in our group this season and last season to go out with 10pts was damn fucking unlucky.

I never felt he was good enough if I'm honest. Strong, aggressive, single-minded, but not the right man for the club long-term.

Dave-The trophy cabinet blows your opinion out of the water though.3 in 3 which could be 4 in 4.....That proves he is the right man
 
Didsbury Dave said:
JoeMercer'sWay said:
Mourinho's currently facing the biggest challenge he'll probably ever face in his career.

If he doesn't win the CL this season then imo he'll never win the CL with a Spanish club, which will be a huge blot on his resume, that he failed where everyone else has in recent years at Real Madrid.

I rather like the idea of a wounded Jose rocking up with a point to prove.

Oh yes.

I'm not convinced a manager who in the best role he's ever been in has thrown away the league and failed to show he's the best manager in the world by winning the CL there.

So from my point of view he has to win the CL as he won't get the Barca or Real job again after this imo.
 
St Helens Blue (Exiled) said:
dancity19 said:
St Helens Blue (Exiled) said:
Why not email the club then..Tell them your concerns etc.

Having won the league in May last year and you (and many) now want our clubs manager to take a walk because we MAY not win something this season is quite simply fucking laughable. I bet you were singing his name 8 months ago.
You are entitled to your opinion but your blind idiocy twds our current manager is somewhat strange. Why do you think the rags have been so successful? Do you think going back to chopping and changing manager every season or 2 is going to bring stability and more success. Mourinho has done fuck all at Madrid this year. He is a good manager but not what we need.

Ok- I'm intrigued to know what my blind idiocy is regading Mancini? You keep saying these things, but not sure if you can back it up with some blindly idiotic comments I have made.

Thinking supporting our manager makes you 'insightful'- thats idiotic.

My concerns about Mancini aren't that we might not win a trophy this year. It's that he has failed all year, barring a few games that can be counted on one hand, to get the most out of the team. We look a shadow of last year. Now you might say that is because teams have wised up to us- well if so, where is our plan B.

We are 12 points behind a (probably) inferior squad. Mancini is a good manager, there is no question. I like him, and am forever grateful to him for what he has done. But there is no room for standing still in football. Nor is there any room for sentiment. Whilst he is a good manager, I am not sure he is a great manager. A manager that makes players overperform.

If for the last part of the season can get our players back to playing at the best of their abilities, then brilliant. I would love a manager to stick around for a long time, for City to build a dynasty, and for one man to be behind it. I would love us to have our own Ferguson. But I am just not sure Mancini is good enough. You only have to look what Mourinho did with the same squad of players at Inter.

Mancini has been great for us, and brought us memories we will never forget, but this doesn't mean he can't be questioned.

What did the rags do when they didn't win a trophy?? Sack Ferguson? No.

Sometimes you just have to hold your hands up and say "you know something,this season isn't our year.So let's regroup,rebuild in summer and go again" But you just want Mancini fired off because you are not sure he is good enough. Not sure he is good enough???Fuck sake he has won us 3 trophies in 3 years..What more can the man do...You would love us to have our own Ferguson?? Well sacking Mancini certainly isn't the way to go if that is what you want.


I genuinely can't believe you highlighted that. It confirms that you see just what you want to.

I said my concerns with Mancini AREN'T that we might not win a trophy.

Read it again.

I.E: I don't necessarily care that we might not win a trophy this season- that isn't affecting my thoughts.

Re-read what I said.

It just sums you up that you saw those words and assumed that's what I meant.
 
St Helens Blue (Exiled) said:
dancity19 said:
St Helens Blue (Exiled) said:
Why not email the club then..Tell them your concerns etc.

Having won the league in May last year and you (and many) now want our clubs manager to take a walk because we MAY not win something this season is quite simply fucking laughable. I bet you were singing his name 8 months ago.
You are entitled to your opinion but your blind idiocy twds our current manager is somewhat strange. Why do you think the rags have been so successful? Do you think going back to chopping and changing manager every season or 2 is going to bring stability and more success. Mourinho has done fuck all at Madrid this year. He is a good manager but not what we need.

Ok- I'm intrigued to know what my blind idiocy is regading Mancini? You keep saying these things, but not sure if you can back it up with some blindly idiotic comments I have made.

Thinking supporting our manager makes you 'insightful'- thats idiotic.

My concerns about Mancini aren't that we might not win a trophy this year. It's that he has failed all year, barring a few games that can be counted on one hand, to get the most out of the team. We look a shadow of last year. Now you might say that is because teams have wised up to us- well if so, where is our plan B.

We are 12 points behind a (probably) inferior squad. Mancini is a good manager, there is no question. I like him, and am forever grateful to him for what he has done. But there is no room for standing still in football. Nor is there any room for sentiment. Whilst he is a good manager, I am not sure he is a great manager. A manager that makes players overperform.

If for the last part of the season can get our players back to playing at the best of their abilities, then brilliant. I would love a manager to stick around for a long time, for City to build a dynasty, and for one man to be behind it. I would love us to have our own Ferguson. But I am just not sure Mancini is good enough. You only have to look what Mourinho did with the same squad of players at Inter.

Mancini has been great for us, and brought us memories we will never forget, but this doesn't mean he can't be questioned.

What did the rags do when they didn't win a trophy?? Sack Ferguson? No.

Sometimes you just have to hold your hands up and say "you know something,this season isn't our year.So let's regroup,rebuild in summer and go again" But you just want Mancini fired off because you are not sure he is good enough. Not sure he is good enough???Fuck sake he has won us 3 trophies in 3 years..What more can the man do...You would love us to have our own Ferguson?? Well sacking Mancini certainly isn't the way to go if that is what you want.

Do you really believe you're going to convince someone who thinks Mourinho is a better manager than Mancini that he isn't? You may disagree, in fact your opposition to Mourinho indicates that you do, but you have to accept that fellow blues are entitled to their opinion and want what's best for the club. We just happen to disagree what that is. No big deal.
 
dancity19 said:
St Helens Blue (Exiled) said:
dancity19 said:
Ok- I'm intrigued to know what my blind idiocy is regading Mancini? You keep saying these things, but not sure if you can back it up with some blindly idiotic comments I have made.

Thinking supporting our manager makes you 'insightful'- thats idiotic.

My concerns about Mancini aren't that we might not win a trophy this year. It's that he has failed all year, barring a few games that can be counted on one hand, to get the most out of the team. We look a shadow of last year. Now you might say that is because teams have wised up to us- well if so, where is our plan B.

We are 12 points behind a (probably) inferior squad. Mancini is a good manager, there is no question. I like him, and am forever grateful to him for what he has done. But there is no room for standing still in football. Nor is there any room for sentiment. Whilst he is a good manager, I am not sure he is a great manager. A manager that makes players overperform.

If for the last part of the season can get our players back to playing at the best of their abilities, then brilliant. I would love a manager to stick around for a long time, for City to build a dynasty, and for one man to be behind it. I would love us to have our own Ferguson. But I am just not sure Mancini is good enough. You only have to look what Mourinho did with the same squad of players at Inter.

Mancini has been great for us, and brought us memories we will never forget, but this doesn't mean he can't be questioned.

What did the rags do when they didn't win a trophy?? Sack Ferguson? No.

Sometimes you just have to hold your hands up and say "you know something,this season isn't our year.So let's regroup,rebuild in summer and go again" But you just want Mancini fired off because you are not sure he is good enough. Not sure he is good enough???Fuck sake he has won us 3 trophies in 3 years..What more can the man do...You would love us to have our own Ferguson?? Well sacking Mancini certainly isn't the way to go if that is what you want.


I genuinely can't believe you highlighted that. It confirms that you see just what you want to.

I said my concerns with Mancini AREN'T that we might not win a trophy.

Read it again.

I.E: I don't necessarily care that we might not win a trophy this season- that isn't affecting my thoughts.

Re-read what I said.

It just sums you up that you saw those words and assumed that's what I meant.

Arrr yes apologies but you still say he has failed all year??Why...The season has a long way to go. Dan I take it by your user name you are 19yrs old.Just be interesting to know because being 8 months shy of 40 I certainly don't know why some fans are acting like spoilt brats and think we are going to win everything every year
 
Well that's your opinion, fella.

For me, given the money spent, we've not come far enough. I'll always be grateful fro what he's won but he's peaked in my opinion. He's not charismatic enough or tactically aware enough to dine at the very top table. This season his chickens have come home to roost.

From what TH is saying it appears Txiki feels the same, too.
 
flb said:
Jose Mourinho says he will return to England when he leaves Real Madrid - but reckons he will not get the chance to replace Sir Alex Ferguson at Manchester United.

Mourinho, whose side face United in Wednesday's UEFA Champions League last-16 first leg, is tipped to leave the Bernabeu in the summer after a dismal Spanish title defence and amid reports he has fallen out with several key players.

The former Chelsea boss refused to clarify whether or not he would be at Real next season but confirmed his desire to be back in the Premier League.

He told reporters: "I will go back to England after Real Madrid. We will see (when that is).

"I love everything (about England). England will be my next step."

Mourinho has been linked with Manchester City and former club Chelsea but joked he would not take over from 71-year-old Ferguson.

"No," he said, when asked if he could replace the Scot. "I think we have to end our career at the same time. Him at 90 and me at 70."


He seems pretty set on managing in England again doesnt he,this is an interview from the 13th Feb.

Cant see him going back to Chelsea, although if they hadnt dirtied his ambition of winning the CL with an English club it most probably would make Chelsea favourites.

The timing is right this time for him to come to City,a club who will surpass anything Chelsea will ever do and who hasnt yet won the CL.

Mancini will always be remembered at City for what hes done but God like status awaits Mourinho if he comes to our place-if he fell in love with Chelsea then he aint seen anything yet until he sees what our fans are like.

Make it happen Txiki

+1
 
hgblue said:
St Helens Blue (Exiled) said:
dancity19 said:
Ok- I'm intrigued to know what my blind idiocy is regading Mancini? You keep saying these things, but not sure if you can back it up with some blindly idiotic comments I have made.

Thinking supporting our manager makes you 'insightful'- thats idiotic.

My concerns about Mancini aren't that we might not win a trophy this year. It's that he has failed all year, barring a few games that can be counted on one hand, to get the most out of the team. We look a shadow of last year. Now you might say that is because teams have wised up to us- well if so, where is our plan B.

We are 12 points behind a (probably) inferior squad. Mancini is a good manager, there is no question. I like him, and am forever grateful to him for what he has done. But there is no room for standing still in football. Nor is there any room for sentiment. Whilst he is a good manager, I am not sure he is a great manager. A manager that makes players overperform.

If for the last part of the season can get our players back to playing at the best of their abilities, then brilliant. I would love a manager to stick around for a long time, for City to build a dynasty, and for one man to be behind it. I would love us to have our own Ferguson. But I am just not sure Mancini is good enough. You only have to look what Mourinho did with the same squad of players at Inter.

Mancini has been great for us, and brought us memories we will never forget, but this doesn't mean he can't be questioned.

What did the rags do when they didn't win a trophy?? Sack Ferguson? No.

Sometimes you just have to hold your hands up and say "you know something,this season isn't our year.So let's regroup,rebuild in summer and go again" But you just want Mancini fired off because you are not sure he is good enough. Not sure he is good enough???Fuck sake he has won us 3 trophies in 3 years..What more can the man do...You would love us to have our own Ferguson?? Well sacking Mancini certainly isn't the way to go if that is what you want.

Do you really believe you're going to convince someone who thinks Mourinho is a better manager than Mancini that he isn't? You may disagree, in fact your opposition to Mourinho indicates that you do, but you have to accept that fellow blues are entitled to their opinion and want what's best for the club. We just happen to disagree what that is. No big deal.

Never said anyone isn't entitle to their opinion but I am entitled to counter that with my opinion and my opinion is that Mourinho in his heart wants the rags job,he is bosom buddies with Taggart and I personally don't want the oh not so special one anywhere near our club. What a fucking circus that would be<br /><br />-- Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:15 pm --<br /><br />
Didsbury Dave said:
Well that's your opinion, fella.

For me, given the money spent, we've not come far enough. I'll always be grateful fro what he's won but he's peaked in my opinion. He's not charismatic enough or tactically aware enough to dine at the very top table. This season his chickens have come home to roost.

From what TH is saying it appears Txiki feels the same, too.

Not read Tolmies posts mate-Enlighten me
 
St Helens Blue (Exiled) said:
Not read Tolmies posts mate-Enlighten me

What?

That's the whole point if today's impassioned discussion. Go back to 8.00am this morning and follow the discussion from there.
 
St Helens Blue (Exiled) said:
dancity19 said:
St Helens Blue (Exiled) said:
What did the rags do when they didn't win a trophy?? Sack Ferguson? No.

Sometimes you just have to hold your hands up and say "you know something,this season isn't our year.So let's regroup,rebuild in summer and go again" But you just want Mancini fired off because you are not sure he is good enough. Not sure he is good enough???Fuck sake he has won us 3 trophies in 3 years..What more can the man do...You would love us to have our own Ferguson?? Well sacking Mancini certainly isn't the way to go if that is what you want.


I genuinely can't believe you highlighted that. It confirms that you see just what you want to.

I said my concerns with Mancini AREN'T that we might not win a trophy.

Read it again.

I.E: I don't necessarily care that we might not win a trophy this season- that isn't affecting my thoughts.

Re-read what I said.

It just sums you up that you saw those words and assumed that's what I meant.

Arrr yes apologies but you still say he has failed all year??Why...The season has a long way to go. Dan I take it by your user name you are 19yrs old.Just be interesting to know because being 8 months shy of 40 I certainly don't know why some fans are acting like spoilt brats and think we are going to win everything every year


No, I am now 24. My username doesn't update year upon year.

Not to give it the old 'i'm a bigger fan than you routine' but I have been a season ticket holder for a number of years, I was back in Maine Road. I wasn't there at York, but I was there in Div2, at the play off final etc etc etc. I am not a new fan, and new to City if that is what you are suggesting with reference to my age? If you aren't, then fine. I am sure you were there then too, but just because you are older than me, doesn't necessarily mean your opinions are more important, or indeed 'truer to fact' than mine.

And by failing all year, I mean I don't think he has got the best out of the team. I think, almost to a man, the players haven't performed to their peaks. When it's a few players underperforming then thats fine- that's to be expected. When it's more than a few, you have to question the manager, rightly or wrongly.
 
St Helens Blue (Exiled) said:
hgblue said:
St Helens Blue (Exiled) said:
What did the rags do when they didn't win a trophy?? Sack Ferguson? No.

Sometimes you just have to hold your hands up and say "you know something,this season isn't our year.So let's regroup,rebuild in summer and go again" But you just want Mancini fired off because you are not sure he is good enough. Not sure he is good enough???Fuck sake he has won us 3 trophies in 3 years..What more can the man do...You would love us to have our own Ferguson?? Well sacking Mancini certainly isn't the way to go if that is what you want.

Do you really believe you're going to convince someone who thinks Mourinho is a better manager than Mancini that he isn't? You may disagree, in fact your opposition to Mourinho indicates that you do, but you have to accept that fellow blues are entitled to their opinion and want what's best for the club. We just happen to disagree what that is. No big deal.

Never said anyone isn't entitle to their opinion but I am entitled to counter that with my opinion and my opinion is that Mourinho in his heart wants the rags job,he is bosom buddies with Taggart and I personally don't want the oh not so special one anywhere near our club. What a fucking circus that would be

-- Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:15 pm --

Didsbury Dave said:
Well that's your opinion, fella.

For me, given the money spent, we've not come far enough. I'll always be grateful fro what he's won but he's peaked in my opinion. He's not charismatic enough or tactically aware enough to dine at the very top table. This season his chickens have come home to roost.

From what TH is saying it appears Txiki feels the same, too.

Not read Tolmies posts mate-Enlighten me
He just says mourinho is making himself available to us
Nothing whatsoever about us wanting his services

He also said he has screwed our club over twice in the past (didnt know that).
 
So, Maureen has approached us and said he is begging for the job, after refusing us on 2 previous occassions. He's being hounded out of arguably the biggest club in the world and he now wants someone to take him on.

Mancini, currently in the job, is now to be moved on to allow JM to take up the slack of the CL, even though he has brought our first tangible success for 35 and 44 years respectively.

The question is, are we happy?
 
dancity19 said:
St Helens Blue (Exiled) said:
dancity19 said:
I genuinely can't believe you highlighted that. It confirms that you see just what you want to.

I said my concerns with Mancini AREN'T that we might not win a trophy.

Read it again.

I.E: I don't necessarily care that we might not win a trophy this season- that isn't affecting my thoughts.

Re-read what I said.

It just sums you up that you saw those words and assumed that's what I meant.

Arrr yes apologies but you still say he has failed all year??Why...The season has a long way to go. Dan I take it by your user name you are 19yrs old.Just be interesting to know because being 8 months shy of 40 I certainly don't know why some fans are acting like spoilt brats and think we are going to win everything every year


No, I am now 24. My username doesn't update year upon year.

Not to give it the old 'i'm a bigger fan than you routine' but I have been a season ticket holder for a number of years, I was back in Maine Road. I wasn't there at York, but I was there in Div2, at the play off final etc etc etc. I am not a new fan, and new to City if that is what you are suggesting with reference to my age? If you aren't, then fine. I am sure you were there then too, but just because you are older than me, doesn't necessarily mean your opinions are more important, or indeed 'truer to fact' than mine.

And by failing all year, I mean I don't think he has got the best out of the team. I think, almost to a man, the players haven't performed to their peaks. When it's a few players underperforming then thats fine- that's to be expected. When it's more than a few, you have to question the manager, rightly or wrongly.

When I asked your age it was nothing to do with a whos the bigger city fan etc.That sort of shit really has no place on here however what I have noticed is that a lot of the younger fans want everything immediately and refuse to be patient.

3 yrs into a 5 yr project...Mancini has done everything requested of him.
For me-He gets another season and one where we must qualify for the last 16 of the champions league.
 
Alex, Jose won like 4-5 trophies with Inter.

People look further down the line than this season too. Mancini has peaked imo.

You bemoan his fortune in Europe yet don't consider his reign at Inter.
 
The cookie monster said:
St Helens Blue (Exiled) said:
hgblue said:
Do you really believe you're going to convince someone who thinks Mourinho is a better manager than Mancini that he isn't? You may disagree, in fact your opposition to Mourinho indicates that you do, but you have to accept that fellow blues are entitled to their opinion and want what's best for the club. We just happen to disagree what that is. No big deal.

Never said anyone isn't entitle to their opinion but I am entitled to counter that with my opinion and my opinion is that Mourinho in his heart wants the rags job,he is bosom buddies with Taggart and I personally don't want the oh not so special one anywhere near our club. What a fucking circus that would be

-- Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:15 pm --

Didsbury Dave said:
Well that's your opinion, fella.

For me, given the money spent, we've not come far enough. I'll always be grateful fro what he's won but he's peaked in my opinion. He's not charismatic enough or tactically aware enough to dine at the very top table. This season his chickens have come home to roost.

From what TH is saying it appears Txiki feels the same, too.

Not read Tolmies posts mate-Enlighten me
He just says mourinho is making himself available to us
Nothing whatsoever about us wanting his services

He also said he has screwed our club over twice in the past (didnt know that).

So in a nutshell he is whoring himself about to anyone who will take him yet City being the classy outfit we are have not shown one little bit of interest which is what I would expect in respect of Mancini.
Thought as much Col....people adding 2 and 2 and making 5...
 
dancity19 said:
No, I am now 24. My username doesn't update year upon year.

Not to give it the old 'i'm a bigger fan than you routine' but I have been a season ticket holder for a number of years, I was back in Maine Road. I wasn't there at York, but I was there in Div2, at the play off final etc etc etc. I am not a new fan, and new to City if that is what you are suggesting with reference to my age? If you aren't, then fine. I am sure you were there then too, but just because you are older than me, doesn't necessarily mean your opinions are more important, or indeed 'truer to fact' than mine.

And by failing all year, I mean I don't think he has got the best out of the team. I think, almost to a man, the players haven't performed to their peaks. When it's a few players underperforming then thats fine- that's to be expected. When it's more than a few, you have to question the manager, rightly or wrongly.

You shouldn't have to justify your "blueness" or age, mate.

I'm 43 and have followed City home and away, 30 games a season, for 36 years.

Many of the people, maybe even the majority, on this thread who are hoping for change are of a similar profile. But it's irrelevant. Age doesn't bring wisdom when it comes to football.

SHB, mate, make your points, fight your corner but if you start going down the "our fans have become spoilt" route you have no credibility in my eyes I'm afraid.
 
The Future's Blue said:
So, Maureen has approached us and said he is begging for the job, after refusing us on 2 previous occassions. He's being hounded out of arguably the biggest club in the world and he now wants someone to take him on.

Mancini, currently in the job, is now to be moved on to allow JM to take up the slack of the CL, even though he has brought our first tangible success for 35 and 44 years respectively.

The question is, are we happy?

I'm sure Mr mansour hasnt forgotton jose's past with us
 
St Helens Blue (Exiled) said:
dancity19 said:
St Helens Blue (Exiled) said:
Arrr yes apologies but you still say he has failed all year??Why...The season has a long way to go. Dan I take it by your user name you are 19yrs old.Just be interesting to know because being 8 months shy of 40 I certainly don't know why some fans are acting like spoilt brats and think we are going to win everything every year


No, I am now 24. My username doesn't update year upon year.

Not to give it the old 'i'm a bigger fan than you routine' but I have been a season ticket holder for a number of years, I was back in Maine Road. I wasn't there at York, but I was there in Div2, at the play off final etc etc etc. I am not a new fan, and new to City if that is what you are suggesting with reference to my age? If you aren't, then fine. I am sure you were there then too, but just because you are older than me, doesn't necessarily mean your opinions are more important, or indeed 'truer to fact' than mine.

And by failing all year, I mean I don't think he has got the best out of the team. I think, almost to a man, the players haven't performed to their peaks. When it's a few players underperforming then thats fine- that's to be expected. When it's more than a few, you have to question the manager, rightly or wrongly.

When I asked your age it was nothing to do with a whos the bigger city fan etc.That sort of shit really has no place on here however what I have noticed is that a lot of the younger fans want everything immediately and refuse to be patient.

3 yrs into a 5 yr project...Mancini has done everything requested of him.
For me-He gets another season and one where we must qualify for the last 16 of the champions league.

He never got of the Europe group stages. Therefore he hasn't done everything requested.
 
Didsbury Dave said:
St Helens Blue (Exiled) said:
Not read Tolmies posts mate-Enlighten me

What?

That's the whole point if today's impassioned discussion. Go back to 8.00am this morning and follow the discussion from there.

To be fair I've read tolmie's comments as saying Mourinho has contacted us saying he wants the job and that no one knows how txiki has reacted.
That's not the same thing as suggesting txiki now thinks a change is necessary
 
SHB,you're sounding a bit desperate mate.

You rate Mancini as you seem happy with his limitations,however,many of us believe we should have progressed further.

Mourhino could do that imo,exciting times,this bit of hope has certainly lifted my mood.
 
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