Mancini Press Conference

The reality is that whilst people continue to "blame" Cook and Marwood for Mancini's dissatisfaction, it is Khaldoun who ultimately makes financial/transfer decisions as he clearly stated in his end of season video. He also clearly stated that we would not be recruiting in the same way as we have done in the last couple of summers. This was completely at odds with what Mancini has said since...so it seems a touch unfair to be laying it all at the doorstep of the other two.<br /><br />-- Fri Aug 12, 2011 7:09 pm --<br /><br />
Gelsons Dad said:
i'm not sure why the comments merit such debate.

The seasons targets will have been agreed based on putting the squad in order.

Squad isn't in order so targets should be reassessed.

The discussion was led by the original question about this seasons targets based on the same question last year. Mancini preferred not to comment and then explained why.

I don't see the problem.

You better sit down.

I agree with that 100%.
 
BillyShears said:
The reality is that whilst people continue to "blame" Cook and Marwood for Mancini's dissatisfaction, it is Khaldoun who ultimately makes financial/transfer decisions as he clearly stated in his end of season video. He also clearly stated that we would not be recruiting in the same way as we have done in the last couple of summers. This was completely at odds with what Mancini has said since...so it seems a touch unfair to be laying it all at the doorstep of the other two.

-- Fri Aug 12, 2011 7:09 pm --

Gelsons Dad said:
i'm not sure why the comments merit such debate.

The seasons targets will have been agreed based on putting the squad in order.

Squad isn't in order so targets should be reassessed.

The discussion was led by the original question about this seasons targets based on the same question last year. Mancini preferred not to comment and then explained why.

I don't see the problem.

You better sit down.

I agree with that 100%.

Summer of love!
 
Mancini needs to stop moaning and making excuses like he did consistently last season.
 
Cook and Marwood are paid to get the best deals they can for City and if it means holding out for a couple more days to get Nasri for £2m less than Arsenal want then they've done their job well.

I'm sure that Bobby would have liked the new squad in place back in July but he'll have a long search if he thinks he'll find another club that'll back him like we have up 'til now.
 
The reality is that whilst people continue to "blame" Cook and Marwood for Mancini's dissatisfaction, it is Khaldoun who ultimately makes financial/transfer decisions as he clearly stated in his end of season video. He also clearly stated that we would not be recruiting in the same way as we have done in the last couple of summers. This was completely at odds with what Mancini has said since...so it seems a touch unfair to be laying it all at the doorstep of the other two.
Well, yes, but I think it's gone something a little bit like this:

Khaldoon says, FFP coming, we must tighten up a bit.

He promises Mancini 30 + 5 to 10m for every player they get off the books, plus Aguero as a replacement for Tevez.

Mancini says, fine, 40m on Sanchez, I'll worry about the other positions later on.

Cook and Marwood aren't quite as fussed about Sanchez as Macini. They go in low, maybe don't do a good job selling the club to Sanchez, who senses a bit of reticence and suddenly realises that all along he wanted to be a squad player at Barca.

Mancini says, fucking great, he was the key to my plan.

Now Mancini, Cook and Marwood come up with Nasri. A similarly skilled player but with less potential and a completely different character. Sanchez is a little lion just like Silva, and plays wherever he is told. Nasri is a bad boy, and has already made a big fuss about his preferred position. Of course that's only significant to the manager, the CEO and Director are not concerned with the personalities and dynamics of the group.

Cook and Marwood are happy though; they are going back to their comfort zones; for Cook it's established big name players, for Marwood it's dealing with Arsenal.

If I was Mancini I'd think, hey, perhaps they wanted this all along.

And then they pay a huge amount in fees and wages.... and then they turn round and say to Mancini, sorry, no more money, because we didn't shift the last lot.

In principle Khaldoon's decision would have kept Mancini happy, but in practise....?
 
Chick Counterfly said:
The reality is that whilst people continue to "blame" Cook and Marwood for Mancini's dissatisfaction, it is Khaldoun who ultimately makes financial/transfer decisions as he clearly stated in his end of season video. He also clearly stated that we would not be recruiting in the same way as we have done in the last couple of summers. This was completely at odds with what Mancini has said since...so it seems a touch unfair to be laying it all at the doorstep of the other two.
Well, yes, but I think it's gone something a little bit like this:

Khaldoon says, FFP coming, we must tighten up a bit.

He promises Mancini 30 + 5 to 10m for every player they get off the books, plus Aguero as a replacement for Tevez.

Mancini says, fine, 40m on Sanchez, I'll worry about the other positions later on.

Cook and Marwood aren't quite as fussed about Sanchez as Macini. They go in low, maybe don't do a good job selling the club to Sanchez, who senses a bit of reticence and suddenly realises that all along he wanted to be a squad player at Barca.

Mancini says, fucking great, he was the key to my plan.

Now Mancini, Cook and Marwood come up with Nasri. A similarly skilled player but with less potential and a completely different character. Sanchez is a little lion just like Silva, and plays wherever he is told. Nasri is a bad boy, and has already made a big fuss about his preferred position. Of course that's only significant to the manager, the CEO and Director are not concerned with the personalities and dynamics of the group.

Cook and Marwood are happy though; they are going back to their comfort zones; for Cook it's established big name players, for Marwood it's dealing with Arsenal.

If I was Mancini I'd think, hey, perhaps they wanted this all along.

And then they pay a huge amount in fees and wages.... and then they turn round and say to Mancini, sorry, no more money, because we didn't shift the last lot.

In principle Khaldoon's decision would have kept Mancini happy, but in practise....?

Well if Mancini hates it so much he can threaten to quit and go to Juve again...because as has been made abundantly clear...he doesn't have the 100% control he wants.

What you've posted above is wild speculation as you have no way of knowing how the Sanchez deal unfolded, nor do you have any way of knowing which player is who's target. You've done your best in this thread to paint Cook and Marwood as incompetent whilst holding Mancini up as a hard done by manager struggling to get the players he requires. I just don't see the situation like that at all.

If you want to talk about overpaying - Young has just gone for 20 million with a year left on his contract. Lukaku for 20 million and he's an 18 year old kid. Henderson for 20 million, Downing for more than that. You get my drift. Everyone's overpaying with the exception of Barcelona right now. That's why not just City, but everyone has been pretty circumspect when it comes to top end transfers.

You talk about Nasri as an alternative to Sanchez. Again, that's just nonsense when as you say yourself he has made it clear he wants to play in centre midfield to enhance his prospects with Les Bleus. Mancini will know this and will be signing him knowing this. Either he's being wilfully silly or he intends to play him in centre mid primarily.

The comfort zone comment bugs me as well. We signed Yaya, Silva, Balo, amongst others last season. Silva tied up quick smart. Yaya and Balo dragged on a little more because they share that slimy fucker as an agent. Plus again, we were dealing with big players coming from big clubs who were going to demand big money.

Anyway, this is mountains and molehills. Mancini knows the score because it was spelt out to him in AD...
 
Millwallawayveteran1988 said:
I can see the nasri deal going tits up. It's taking too long.

We haven't signed what we need to challenge for the title and Cook seems to be constantly trying to fck things up.

The only good news is that it looks like Tevez ain't going

I`ve just complemented someone on writing the best post on this thread.
Unfortunately this one of yours is without doubt the fooking worst by a long shot !!
 

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