Ducado said:Not a ball kicked in anger and the vultures have come out already! A Bluemoon Record
By no means do I have a lot of sympathy for Mancini on this, but I think that post is a little naive. We're talking about a man who's spent 90% of his career in Italy, and managed Inter. I think he knows that these deals aren't straightforward. That does not mean that the club's executives have performed adequately or sensibly,or supported him adequately, though.Prestwich_Blue said:All this nonsense about not getting transfer targets. Like some spoiled, rich, fat kids stamping their feet because Mummy & Daddy won't buy them a better version of something they bought them last week.
For one thing, who knows what our targets were. Players we wanted might not have been for sale, might not have wanted to come to us or, if they did, we couldn't agree terms.
I also happen to know a leading club's chief exec and an agent so I know how complex some negotiations are. Agents & players play clubs off against each other for one thing. Dealing with agents is also tricky. It's a murky world and negotiations can seem to be straightforward then mysterious parties appear out of the woodwork demanding a cut and City will not play that game.
Clubs will also play hardball, refusing to deal until they've got their own targets lined up and have to go through the same loops.
It's not like going into Selfridges, picking a shirt you like then paying at the till. City have a way of doing business, which the owners have laid down. If Mancini or any of you don't like it then too bad.
Braggster said:By no means do I have a lot of sympathy for Mancini on this, but I think that post is a little naive. We're talking about a man who's spent 90% of his career in Italy, and managed Inter. I think he knows that these deals aren't straightforward. That does not mean that the club's executives have performed adequately or sensibly,or supported him adequately, though.Prestwich_Blue said:All this nonsense about not getting transfer targets. Like some spoiled, rich, fat kids stamping their feet because Mummy & Daddy won't buy them a better version of something they bought them last week.
For one thing, who knows what our targets were. Players we wanted might not have been for sale, might not have wanted to come to us or, if they did, we couldn't agree terms.
I also happen to know a leading club's chief exec and an agent so I know how complex some negotiations are. Agents & players play clubs off against each other for one thing. Dealing with agents is also tricky. It's a murky world and negotiations can seem to be straightforward then mysterious parties appear out of the woodwork demanding a cut and City will not play that game.
Clubs will also play hardball, refusing to deal until they've got their own targets lined up and have to go through the same loops.
It's not like going into Selfridges, picking a shirt you like then paying at the till. City have a way of doing business, which the owners have laid down. If Mancini or any of you don't like it then too bad.
Indeed, many of the current problems in the squad spring from Cook and Marwood's pathetic inability to negotiate sensible salaries. The reports of Nasri's reported salary suggest that they still can't negotiate a sensible contract. Pathetic. Marwood in particular is someone I am deeply suspicious of.
Prestwich_Blue said:All this nonsense about not getting transfer targets. Like some spoiled, rich, fat kids stamping their feet because Mummy & Daddy won't buy them a better version of something they bought them last week.
For one thing, who knows what our targets were. Players we wanted might not have been for sale, might not have wanted to come to us or, if they did, we couldn't agree terms.
I also happen to know a leading club's chief exec and an agent so I know how complex some negotiations are. Agents & players play clubs off against each other for one thing. Dealing with agents is also tricky. It's a murky world and negotiations can seem to be straightforward then mysterious parties appear out of the woodwork demanding a cut and City will not play that game.
Clubs will also play hardball, refusing to deal until they've got their own targets lined up and have to go through the same loops.
It's not like going into Selfridges, picking a shirt you like then paying at the till. City have a way of doing business, which the owners have laid down. If Mancini or any of you don't like it then too bad.
Not sure he'll do it either way, if he aint happy he can jog on, I'm sure there's plenty who would feel they can do better with this bunch of players anyway, city is like a Ferrari being driven by an old granny at the moment!peoffrey said:JohnMaddocksAxe said:Not a happy man imo.
Constantly repeating the message that the season is about to start and the club haven't signed their targets.
When Supporters can't receive their Seasoncards in good time then I shudder to think how the Club organises the pursuit of Lionel Messi. Can Mancini only bring success with money?