Mancini v Pellegrini so far ......

[moomba]

Agree that's it's pointless comparing the two. Different starting points, different expectations, different players, and totally different circumstances.

RM did a great job IMO, and has made the job for Pellegrini much easier. Is Pellegrini doing a great job? Still early days but I'm pretty happy with where we stand in the three comps we are in at the moment. My gut feeling is that MP will win more with us than RM does, and like Mancini he will leave his successor with a club ripe for success.

 

[taconinja]

Pellers will adjust i am sure but letting west brom get 2 back was really daft even though resting key players i agreed with

As long as we keep winning it's largely irrelevant how many consolation goals the opposition score after the game's won.

For me I guess I don't think there's a lack of balance between attack and defence. I believe in attacking first last and always to win football games. I've never liked teams who "close" games. I don't respect that because unless it's against far superior opposition, i find it spineless and without merit. If you're a top team you go out and play from the first minute to the last to score goals.

If you don't do that and you play %'s and are pragmatic, you better be like Mourinho and win big things every year. Otherwise in what is ostensibly an entertainment industry, your delivering anti entertainment for the sake of nothing.

I don't 100% agree but for the most part yes. It can be relevant how many goals are conceded despite winning if it shakes players' confidence. I think we've both witnessed it happening and not in the too-distant past either. Fortunately, Pellegrini seems to be a good man-manager, which ameliorates that.

 

[Anonymous]

Agree that's it's pointless comparing the two. Different starting points, different expectations, different players, and totally different circumstances.

RM did a great job IMO, and has made the job for Pellegrini much easier. Is Pellegrini doing a great job? Still early days but I'm pretty happy with where we stand in the three comps we are in at the moment. My gut feeling is that MP will win more with us than RM does, and like Mancini he will leave his successor with a club ripe for success.

Don't agree at all that circumstances are so different that comparisons cannot be made. Our expectations have been the title for the last four league campaigns (including this one). So no expectations aren't really different, and neither are the circumstances. Players yes, they are.

I do agree that Mancini left Pellegrini a club ripe for success ...

 

[bernabias home shirt]

Agree that's it's pointless comparing the two. Different starting points, different expectations, different players, and totally different circumstances.

RM did a great job IMO, and has made the job for Pellegrini much easier. Is Pellegrini doing a great job? Still early days but I'm pretty happy with where we stand in the three comps we are in at the moment. My gut feeling is that MP will win more with us than RM does, and like Mancini he will leave his successor with a club ripe for success.

I think its a good point on the starting position
From nowhere to champions bob had taken us within his first two seasons

He left a great squad for pellegrini,who in turn has made some fantastic additions
I think it's hard to compare the two this early tbh
It's looking good atm though

 

[ifiwasarichfan]

Can we just compare the first 5 months of their reign ?

Mr M inherited a complete shambles of a team defensively and got them organised and functional in pretty much double quick time. From day one his coaching ability brought vast improvements to individual players and we never saw a bunch of City players so fit. He also identified pretty quickly the players who long term would be surplus to requirements including many fans favourites Robhino, Ireland, Bellamy etc when it would have been far easier to play to the faithful and shy away from the tough decisions. He would by and large spend our money wisely he also fell in love with the identity and the culture of the Club from day one.

Mr P has begun with a different set of issues, inheriting a Club where things were just a little bit off. He hasn't had to buy well as Taxi and Soriano seem to have done that for him but where as Mr M had more room to progress moving towards an initial goal of a Trophy and top 4; Mr P has a hell of a long way to fall if he gets it wrong. He has faced bad injuries to two star players and a world class keeper who has caught the yips. He has brought a calmness to proceedings, strolled past the qualifying stages of the Champions League and we play a brand of Football that had MOTD comparing a visit to the Etihad as akin to a trip to the torture chamber.

In match terms, its a stunning 3 v 3 draw.

 

[Anonymous]

From nowhere to champions bob had taken us within his first two seasons

Haha. I always cringe when I read shit like this. We had spent 200 million plus under Hughes, then Mancini spent a similar amount. So yeah, from expectations of finishing 4th to expectations of winning the title are totally natural. There's no "feat" in that. It's just fulfilling expectations. That is life at the top end.

 

[bernabias home shirt]

From nowhere to champions bob had taken us within his first two seasons

Haha. I always cringe when I read shit like this. We had spent 200 million plus under Hughes, then Mancini spent a similar amount. So yeah, from expectations of finishing 4th to expectations of winning the title are totally natural. There's no "feat" in that. It's just fulfilling expectations. That is life at the top end.

I praised both gaffers,but I kinda knew you would single this part of my post out

 

[bluemc]

Pellers will adjust i am sure but letting west brom get 2 back was really daft even though resting key players i agreed with

As long as we keep winning it's largely irrelevant how many consolation goals the opposition score after the game's won.

For me I guess I don't think there's a lack of balance between attack and defence. I believe in attacking first last and always to win football games. I've never liked teams who "close" games. I don't respect that because unless it's against far superior opposition, i find it spineless and without merit. If you're a top team you go out and play from the first minute to the last to score goals.

If you don't do that and you play %'s and are pragmatic, you better be like Mourinho and win big things every year. Otherwise in what is ostensibly an entertainment industry, your delivering anti entertainment for the sake of nothing.

Very true, because I can't remember a time when goal difference mattered come the end of the season ;-)

It's been a mixed bag for MP so far, emphasised by the "Pellegrini is a South American Moyes/Pellegrini will be a legend for this club" over-reactions after each bad or good result.

Is the attacking football so far better than the first 4/5 months in the season we won the league? I'm not sure. But when the current team clicks it is a joy to watch, that's for certain.

We are positioned very well though in my opinion. Through in the CL, LC quarter-final and placed well in the league. Although the frustration is that the league position COULD be better if not for a few daft results. A very big month, 8 days even, ahead which could shape the season for more clubs than our own.<br /><br />-- Fri Dec 06, 2013 2:40 pm --<br /><br />

From nowhere to champions bob had taken us within his first two seasons

Haha. I always cringe when I read shit like this. We had spent 200 million plus under Hughes, then Mancini spent a similar amount. So yeah, from expectations of finishing 4th to expectations of winning the title are totally natural. There's no "feat" in that. It's just fulfilling expectations. That is life at the top end.

Being inside the Etihad on 13/05/12 it certainly felt like a feat to win the league for the first time in my lifetime. Regardless of money spent and who by.

That feat will be just as impressive and feel just as good if MP does it this year, or next.

 

[forevermancity]

From nowhere to champions bob had taken us within his first two seasons

Haha. I always cringe when I read shit like this. We had spent 200 million plus under Hughes, then Mancini spent a similar amount. So yeah, from expectations of finishing 4th to expectations of winning the title are totally natural. There's no "feat" in that. It's just fulfilling expectations. That is life at the top end.

some people make out that he dragged us up from Div 2 to prem champions on a shoestring budget

 

[bugsyblue]

Mancini did wonders for this club and I believe changed the mentality. As people have identified, Pellers has come into a different club. Pellers already had champions within the squad but the big difference for me is in their respective style of play. I prefer watching Pellegrini's city with the pace, fluidity and attacking mentality. The difference is I had more confidence in Mancini's team to see out the game when we took the lead and there's been times under Pellegrini where we've made some very poor defensive errors. Both managers have moulded a team that could,a nd can, destroy an opponent and we've been very blessed to see numerous 5-0s, 6-0s, 7-0s throughout both their reigns.

Obviously we don't know how far Pellers will take us but we owe a lot to Mancini regardless of whether Pellers betters his trophy haul or not.

Either way it is clear to me that both managers are world class.