Mancini

[rastus]

Apparently he went straight to the airport in a private car without really talking to the players or joining them on the bus. I know a trip to Italy is standard for him during international breaks but it's like he can't get out of the country and away from the players soon enough. Can you imagine someone like Ferguson (ugh) deciding to take a trip home to Scotland right after a game and ignoring the players? It's just awful man management, no two ways about it. I'm not saying he should be 'arry and put arms around shoulders, but he just doesn't seem to have any personal connection to anything, another young-ish coach like Klopp is invested completely in his club's project, has good relations with the players, attends youth games, involves himself with all aspects of the club and gives the impression he lives for the club.

He gives the impression he lives for the club, ha ha. He also gives the impression hes Bruce Forsyth.

 

[greasedupdeafguy]

Sadly i suspect he'll leave at the end of the season thanks to the same ***** who drove the prodigal son away.

The only person to blame is himself for his shite signings and tactics this season.

 

[OB1]

And in common with the rest of this topic, nearly all the contributors fail to analyse our weakness this season, which is scoring goals, and the reasons for it.

I don't think we can expect to challenge for the title with two fit forwards, one of whom everyone expects to leave at the end of the season.

That's the reason we are struggling now - the forwards we have available the fact that Dzeko appears to be unsettled and moving on

We've not had just two fit forwards all season.

The fact that we do not score enough goals is not simply down to the forwards. We are not creating enough good chances. It's boring to have to repeat that we do not use enough width at times or have enough pace. Also, we do not get enough bodies into the box often enough. These are not even new problems but they are issues that the manager has failed to adequately address.

 

[Marvin]

Just my speculation but if i was to give Bobbie a brief at the start of the season it would have been something like this.

Retain the title or at least be in contention right to the end. ( Failed )
Progress to the 1/4 finals of the champions league ( Failed )
Demonstrate continuous improvement on the pitch ( Failed )
Develop and strenghten the squad ( Failed imho )
Contend for the Fa or League cup ( on track )
Develop players from the youth team ( Failed )

Doesn't look good and i am a supporter of Mancini, i don't want to see him go but i can't see anything other than a change now.

You were expecting improvement from a very high base

In my view the squad is stronger, but injuries have disrupted our team when we got off very lightly last season.

And in common with the rest of this topic, nearly all the contributors fail to analyse our weakness this season, which is scoring goals, and the reasons for it.

I don't think we can expect to challenge for the title with two fit forwards, one of whom everyone expects to leave at the end of the season.

That's the reason we are struggling now - the forwards we have available the fact that Dzeko appears to be unsettled and moving on

With all due respect, that's bollocks.

The fact we have assembled a hugely unbalanced squad, devoid of any pace, is why we haven't challenged.

Which part is bollocks? All of it? :-)

Look at the obvious stats in the League Table - City's defence is good, and the goals scored average, and the stats reveal that City's chance conversion has dipped massively. It's not the whole team that's not functioning but the forwards who aren't finishing chances.

Is Mancini responsible for that?

 

[cookster]

Just my speculation but if i was to give Bobbie a brief at the start of the season it would have been something like this.

Retain the title or at least be in contention right to the end. ( Failed )
Progress to the 1/4 finals of the champions league ( Failed )
Demonstrate continuous improvement on the pitch ( Failed )
Develop and strenghten the squad ( Failed imho )
Contend for the Fa or League cup ( on track )
Develop players from the youth team ( Failed )

Doesn't look good and i am a supporter of Mancini, i don't want to see him go but i can't see anything other than a change now.

You were expecting improvement from a very high base

In my view the squad is stronger, but injuries have disrupted our team when we got off very lightly last season.

And in common with the rest of this topic, nearly all the contributors fail to analyse our weakness this season, which is scoring goals, and the reasons for it.

I don't think we can expect to challenge for the title with two fit forwards, one of whom everyone expects to leave at the end of the season.

That's the reason we are struggling now - the forwards we have available the fact that Dzeko appears to be unsettled and moving on

Not so much of a high base in Europe?

The side has no pace and is over reliant on Silva.

 

[kaz7]

Apparently he went straight to the airport in a private car without really talking to the players or joining them on the bus. I know a trip to Italy is standard for him during international breaks but it's like he can't get out of the country and away from the players soon enough. Can you imagine someone like Ferguson (ugh) deciding to take a trip home to Scotland right after a game and ignoring the players? It's just awful man management, no two ways about it. I'm not saying he should be 'arry and put arms around shoulders, but he just doesn't seem to have any personal connection to anything, another young-ish coach like Klopp is invested completely in his club's project, has good relations with the players, attends youth games, involves himself with all aspects of the club and gives the impression he lives for the club.

Cheap shot

not picking on you but i keep reading he apparently didnt talk to them or put an arm around anyone,where do you get this info from everytime?if its an insider then ok but it seems to be the media,until i hear one player say he stormed off without talking to us i will go with he probably said you useless prats,like we do

If you say so Marvin, I'm as big a Blue as anyone but don't see everything through super bright Blue blinkers like you like to (when is United's bad patch coming, BTW?). You take offence to any contrary opinion to everything being perfect at City, and fair play to you (except when you label people rags for it), but don't attack those who have a balanced view on the club and can view both pros and cons. I love Mancini and sing his name but he clearly is not an A lister in the world of management, and his flaws have been highlighted this season. Preach the 2nd place gospel all you want but we're as close to 8th (West Brom) as 1st (United) and that's a clear sign of regression. We're underachieving with this squad and there are managers who could get more out of them than Mancini is - especially in the attacking half of the pitch where we're incredibly average considering the players we have.

 

[AustinBlue]

Just my speculation but if i was to give Bobbie a brief at the start of the season it would have been something like this.

Retain the title or at least be in contention right to the end. ( Failed )
Progress to the 1/4 finals of the champions league ( Failed )
Demonstrate continuous improvement on the pitch ( Failed )
Develop and strenghten the squad ( Failed imho )
Contend for the Fa or League cup ( on track )
Develop players from the youth team ( Failed )

Doesn't look good and i am a supporter of Mancini, i don't want to see him go but i can't see anything other than a change now.

You were expecting improvement from a very high base

In my view the squad is stronger, but injuries have disrupted our team when we got off very lightly last season.

And in common with the rest of this topic, nearly all the contributors fail to analyse our weakness this season, which is scoring goals, and the reasons for it.

I don't think we can expect to challenge for the title with two fit forwards, one of whom everyone expects to leave at the end of the season.

That's the reason we are struggling now - the forwards we have available the fact that Dzeko appears to be unsettled and moving on

We sold Balotelli, a player Mancini insisted we buy over the advice of scouts at the club, because Mancini could not manage him effectively. Dzeko was also a player Mancini insisted on, even though he doesn't really fit Mancini's system. Our forwards situation is almost entirely of Mancini's own making. Still - we had Tevez and Dzeko available. Which other team in the premier league would not swap with our forwards given a chance? Maybe, and just maybe United, but that's it.

 

[80s Shorts]

Did we lose a game ?

how very dare we.

 

[blueinsa]

You were expecting improvement from a very high base

In my view the squad is stronger, but injuries have disrupted our team when we got off very lightly last season.

And in common with the rest of this topic, nearly all the contributors fail to analyse our weakness this season, which is scoring goals, and the reasons for it.

I don't think we can expect to challenge for the title with two fit forwards, one of whom everyone expects to leave at the end of the season.

That's the reason we are struggling now - the forwards we have available the fact that Dzeko appears to be unsettled and moving on

With all due respect, that's bollocks.

The fact we have assembled a hugely unbalanced squad, devoid of any pace, is why we haven't challenged.

Which part is bollocks? All of it? :-)

Look at the obvious stats in the League Table - City's defence is good, and the goals scored average, and the stats reveal that City's chance conversion has dipped massively. It's not the whole team that's not functioning but the forwards who aren't finishing chances.

Is Mancini responsible for that?

Yes Marvin, he is responsible for that as he is responsible for everything that goes on with the first team. He is the manager, paid millions to deliver and this season both he and the team have so far failed to deliver.

What part of that responsibility don't you get mate?

 

[greasedupdeafguy]

Did we lose a game ?

how very dare we.

Yep and are now 15 points behind United, out of the CL and out of the CC.