Mancini

[Zin 'messiah' Zimmer]

(Europe aside)

He's a great architect. Unless he needs to build a building with more than one floor.

Absolutely tragic the way some people brush aside Mancini's incompetence in Europe as some inconsequential thing which isn't at all important.

Out of interest BS, how many campaigns has the man had in Europe?? Genuinely interested

I'd say the club in itself is far to wet behind the ears, however there's no doubt in my mind he'll win a champions league trophy within the next 6/7 years, the only problem is it probably won't be here!!!! A manager of his ilk improves because of the motivation they take from failure, he's made many mistakes this year granted but for achieving the ultimate goal of winning the league he should be afforded another crack, IMO he'll win the league if still here next year!!!!

 

[Juan King]

I'm on the fence. I wouldn't be unhappy to see Mancini get another season, with some backing in the summer transfer window, to see if he can improve in Europe & get the team challenging for the league again next season. I think there are some players that need shipping out & that might improve things.

Alternatively I'm alarmed by some of the performances this season & that some of the players look uninspired. I'm not sure if that is down to the manger or not. If we could get a better manager than we have already then I would be in favour of making a change. I don't see the likes of Laudrup as an improvement on what we have though. Mourinho would be IMO.

 

[Paulmcfc2703]

(Europe aside)

He's a great architect. Unless he needs to build a building with more than one floor.

Absolutely tragic the way some people brush aside Mancini's incompetence in Europe as some inconsequential thing which isn't at all important.

The thing that gets me is its not just European games. Teams have been finding us out for months.

Before the season kicks off you might as well forget games like Everton (h & a), Liverpool (a), Stoke (a), Sunderland (a) because they know how to play against us.

So that's 5 games we know we can't win before we kick a ball.

 

[dancity19]

I don't know why getting rid of Mancini would be Chelsea esque...?

It's another nonsensical over exaggeration to try and give his opinion more perceived gravitas.

I've got plenty of time for people who think Mancini deserves more time. You only need to say that "he's won 2 trophies, he deserves another season" and I find it hard to argue. I disagree but I can't argue against it. It's the random application of nonsense about Chelsea, or about Europe being unimportant, or that those who want Mancini out do so because they want "instant" anything. It's just all a big pile of horseshit piled on top of an opinion to give the effect of the moral high ground.

That is what a lot of it is about in my opinion. Like you say, a lot of 'inners' have arguments that are difficult to counter.

But I think, just as many, want Mancini in because they are perceived to be the better fan. They are, in their head, getting behind the team more than those who want him out. They are the moral ones, the ones who are 'patient' etc.

Anyway, even if that's not true, if they come out with something as infantile as those who want him out have only just become fans, I'll come out with above....

 

[Anonymous]

(Europe aside)

He's a great architect. Unless he needs to build a building with more than one floor.

Absolutely tragic the way some people brush aside Mancini's incompetence in Europe as some inconsequential thing which isn't at all important.

Out of interest BS, how many campaigns has the man had in Europe?? Genuinely interested

I'd say the club in itself is far to wet behind the ears, however there's no doubt in my mind he'll win a champions league trophy within the next 6/7 years, the only problem is it probably won't be here!!!! A manager of his ilk improves because of the motivation they take from failure, he's made many mistakes this year granted but for achieving the ultimate goal of winning the league he should be afforded another crack, IMO he'll win the league if still here next year!!!!

Honestly his record is average. He might be a relative novice, but just as City weren't prepared to wait for Mark Hughes how to figure out how to manage at the level they wanted at the time, I'm not sure they will wait for Mancini to grow into a top European manager.

I've also said quite a few times that he probably will win the CL one day. He's not a shit coach, far from it. He's a very good manager who's record of trophies speaks for itself. He's just not at that level required to make an impact both domestically and in Europe. This was proven at Inter, and has subsequently been proven at City so far.

 

[Paulmcfc2703]

(Europe aside)

He's a great architect. Unless he needs to build a building with more than one floor.

Absolutely tragic the way some people brush aside Mancini's incompetence in Europe as some inconsequential thing which isn't at all important.

Out of interest BS, how many campaigns has the man had in Europe?? Genuinely interested

I'd say the club in itself is far to wet behind the ears, however there's no doubt in my mind he'll win a champions league trophy within the next 6/7 years, the only problem is it probably won't be here!!!! A manager of his ilk improves because of the motivation they take from failure, he's made many mistakes this year granted but for achieving the ultimate goal of winning the league he should be afforded another crack, IMO he'll win the league if still here next year!!!!

He has had 7 champions league campaigns.

His record stands

Group Stage, Quarters, Quarters, Last 16, Last 16, Group Stage, Group Stage.

 

[dancity19]

(Europe aside)

He's a great architect. Unless he needs to build a building with more than one floor.

Absolutely tragic the way some people brush aside Mancini's incompetence in Europe as some inconsequential thing which isn't at all important.

Out of interest BS, how many campaigns has the man had in Europe?? Genuinely interested

I'd say the club in itself is far to wet behind the ears, however there's no doubt in my mind he'll win a champions league trophy within the next 6/7 years, the only problem is it probably won't be here!!!! A manager of his ilk improves because of the motivation they take from failure, he's made many mistakes this year granted but for achieving the ultimate goal of winning the league he should be afforded another crack, IMO he'll win the league if still here next year!!!!

I really don't understand this argument to be honest. How, as a club, can we be too inexperienced to perform well in the Champions League. I would understand if our players were equally 'wet behind the ears' as the club as a whole is. But they aren't?

So what is it that is holding us back.....the fact that us, as fans, are new to the champions league?

It just doesn't wash with me, we have World Cup winners, Euro winners, Europa League Cup winners, and Champions League Winners in our squad. They aren't wet behind the ears.

Why does the fact that Manchester City, as a name, are new to the Champions League, affect us. It didn't affect Harry Redknapp and Tottenham, and nor did it affect Napoli.

The argument just doesn't wash with me- we have a team of experienced players, who aren't wet behind the ears.

 

[Lucky Toma]

Some superb posts in here amongst the shite.

If you feel strongly that Mancini should go at the end of this term does anyone fancy putting together a piece for the Daisy Cutter about it?

If so get in touch via PM.

 

[Claytop]

(Europe aside)

He's a great architect. Unless he needs to build a building with more than one floor.

Absolutely tragic the way some people brush aside Mancini's incompetence in Europe as some inconsequential thing which isn't at all important.

The thing that gets me is its not just European games. Teams have been finding us out for months.

Before the season kicks off you might as well forget games like Everton (h & a), Liverpool (a), Stoke (a), Sunderland (a) because they know how to play against us.

So that's 5 games we know we can't win before we kick a ball.

This is the part that gets me, surely a great manager would have worked out a way to overcome this?

My fear is next season will be much of the same if Mancini stays.

 

[St Helens Blue (Exiled)]

Fuck it-lets just go back to the Alan Ball,Stuart Pearce days of utter mediocracy and winning jack shit hey because Mancini has made a few mistakes in europe and against the blue dippers.

Mancini gets unwarranted abuse on here. I know many a rag who hopes he does get the chop because they know he has rattled Fergie and they think with a little more backing he will come strong again next year.
This year hasn't exactly been a disaster has it?

I would say if a straw poll was taken re Mancini the outers would be approx 10% and the inners 90%