Mancini

[robbieh]

People still confuse man management with being nice to players.

Nice doesn't come into it.
He should be able to effectively communicate with all members of his squad and command a mutual respect.
His tenure so far and the very public spats with a few players suggests that's not the case.

A trophy nearly every full year of management says that opinion is inaccurate.
Players have to grow up and be men when dealing with Mancini or move on.[/quote]

That in a nutshell is it. In 66 england didn´t win the world cup because they were the most talented group of players, they won because as a group they were self starters and proper men, not whingeing lightweights like Nasri.

Alf Ramsey wasn´t the type to indulge players and his treatment of Greaves would have had some on here calling for his immediate sacking. But it was the right choice.

 

[Blue Heaven]

Nice doesn't come into it.
He should be able to effectively communicate with all members of his squad and command a mutual respect.
His tenure so far and the very public spats with a few players suggests that's not the case.

A trophy nearly every full year of management says that opinion is inaccurate.
Players have to grow up and be men when dealing with Mancini or move on.

I made no mention of success or a lack of it, merely pointed out the numerous spats that have happened with various players during his tenure.

Club captain going off to play for his country whilst injured for his club and then the manager publicly criticising him in the media doesn't point to effective communication or a mutual respect.

Tevez situation the same, Mario also....

The list is endless, and not just players, either. He's the same querulous old harridan he's always been, going back to his playing days.

 

[BlueAnorak]

When is Bobby going to grow up?

He doesn't have to. He's the manager!

 

[Blue Heaven]

Nice doesn't come into it.
He should be able to effectively communicate with all members of his squad and command a mutual respect.
His tenure so far and the very public spats with a few players suggests that's not the case.

A trophy nearly every full year of management says that opinion is inaccurate.
Players have to grow up and be men when dealing with Mancini or move on.[/quote]

That in a nutshell is it. In 66 england didn´t win the world cup because they were the most talented group of players, they won because as a group they were self starters and proper men, not whingeing lightweights like Nasri.

Alf Ramsey wasn´t the type to indulge players and his treatment of Greaves would have had some on here calling for his immediate sacking. But it was the right choice.

'self starters and proper men...' eh? Why do I already know that your diet contains a morbidly excessive amount of fiber?<br /><br />-- Mon Apr 01, 2013 1:01 am --<br /><br />

When is Bobby going to grow up?

He doesn't have to. He's the manager!

Not for much longer...

 

[blueinsa]

When is Bobby going to grow up?

He doesn't have to. He's the manager!

Do you have any idea how ridiculous and childish that comes across mate?

By the very nature of his post, he has to lead by example and be able to command a mutual respect that wants men to follow him and believe in him.

He is not in charge of the local fucking Tesco!

 

[Blue Heaven]

When is Bobby going to grow up?

He doesn't have to. He's the manager!

Do you have any idea how ridiculous and childish that comes across mate?

By the very nature of his post, he has to lead by example and be able to command a mutual respect that wants men to follow him and believe in him.

He is not in charge of the local fucking Tesco!

That wouldn't be acceptable at Tesco, either. At least, theoretically...!

 

[nijinsky's fetlocks]

That's not the point though is it

So you want Mancini pretend?

No, I want a manager who is not a disaster as a man-manager. Our players play for themselves, for their own professional pride, that is when they bother to. They stopped playing for Bobby a long, long time ago, but his corrosive personality continues to infect the squad, and other parts of the organization from time to time. That will be put right at season's end.

You don't have the slightest clue if or when certain players stopped playing for the manager,nor do have any idea about the effect of the manager's personality on the rest of the club,nor do you have any evidence or information to suggest that he will be replaced when the season ends.
In fact your whole post is mere speculation masquerading as fact,therefore completely irrelevant.
By all means hold whatever opinion you like,but please don't try to claim unsubstantiated opinion as gospel.

 

[blueinsa]

He doesn't have to. He's the manager!

Do you have any idea how ridiculous and childish that comes across mate?

By the very nature of his post, he has to lead by example and be able to command a mutual respect that wants men to follow him and believe in him.

He is not in charge of the local fucking Tesco!

That wouldn't be acceptable at Tesco, either. At least, theoretically...!

Indeed.

 

[robbieh]

A trophy nearly every full year of management says that opinion is inaccurate.
Players have to grow up and be men when dealing with Mancini or move on.[/quote]

That in a nutshell is it. In 66 england didn´t win the world cup because they were the most talented group of players, they won because as a group they were self starters and proper men, not whingeing lightweights like Nasri.

Alf Ramsey wasn´t the type to indulge players and his treatment of Greaves would have had some on here calling for his immediate sacking. But it was the right choice.

'self starters and proper men...' eh? Why do I already know that your diet contains a morbidly excessive amount of fiber?

-- Mon Apr 01, 2013 1:01 am --

When is Bobby going to grow up?

He doesn't have to. He's the manager!

Not for much longer...

WTF does that mean? The point I am making is that good teams don´t have too many mental lightweights in them. Players who can´t take public criticism are by definition lightweight. Not saying I agree with Mancini doing this but if he is trying to get Nasri to get his act together then I´ll buy into it. If Nasri prefers to sulk that´s his choice and will result in him playing for someone else.

 

[BlueAnorak]

Looks like I've rattled a few cages. So be it.
If the City manager says jump every City player should say "How High Boss".
It is the only way any football club, including CITY, will be successful.