Mancini

[Chi-town blues]

The word 'gullible' was invented for DD and his ilk or maybe they just like to believe want they to believe.

Tbh I think it's sad that they jump on these articles as some kind of vindication, their argument has gone from his footballing achievement to his supposed man management abilities.

I will remind them of fergies falling out with Beckham, his ruthless dumping of Jaap stam and the way he got rid of Keane towards the twilight of his career.

I'm sorry but once you give an indication that players, I don't care who they are, are more powerful than the manager you are on a slippery slope.

The likes of DD and others who jump on these articles are just encouraging the media to write more rubbish.

Hmmm, I think the difference being that Fergie had a CL win, about 5 titles and various cup wins in the bag at the point he dumped those guys you mention....probably gave him a position of some strength to deal with those players? Much as I like DD I doubt he has much influence with the Belgian press.

Oh right so what 'is' the benchmark when you are allowed to actually be the boss.

Fergie has also fallen out with berbatov - remember him laughing at him being miserable on the bench and Nani is the latest who was out of favour this season and is likely to leave in the summer.

I'm sorry but if a manager is be successful he has to have total authority and its a corny phrase but no player is bigger than the club. I think every rag fan was against the sale of Beckham, he was a global superstar, but he wouldn't toe the Fergie line so he went, and quite right too.

In this situation the club will either back the manager as they did with the tevez saga or they will genuinely think the situation has been badly managed in which case the club will be in the best position to judge.

I will be damned however if I'm going to go against our manager as a result of this 'story' and I will always back a manager against a recalcitrant player pursuing his own agenda even if that does happen to be Vinny - otherwise every manager who manages this club, whoever they are is otherwise doomed to failure.

Agreed 100%
Barca sniffing can twist anyone brain.
As much as I like Vinnie ,I really don't like this attitude .He was an average player before Mancini took over and not a pleasant way to be thankful to a person who made him a class player.
BY the way,the bubble gum chewing red nose criticized his team except one player in media after Chelsea defeat. Why the press is not buzzing about it?

 

[dancity19]

Mancinis inability to man manage players

After 585 pages that's a given now is it?

Well it's not a given.

But it's becoming more and more apparent.

He has positives, of course he does- man managing isn't one of them. Even a player who he effectively considers a son, and professes to having a special relationship with, suddenly hits incredible scoring form when leaving, after struggling all season for us.

Not sure you can really argue any differently, in terms of man management.

 

[moomba]

Did Diego Forlorn scoring goals for Villareal mean that BF is a bad man manager?

Or does shit sometimes happen?

 

[bluemathlady]

Just heard from a very reliable source that Mancini has fallen out with Txiki and Ferran because his easter egg had no fruit pastilles in it. "Fucking hell"

 

[Anonymous]

I feel the waffle waffle brigade are going to have to invest in new waffle machines. In fact it wouldn't surprise me if they're currently in a kitchen somewhere waffling up some more waffles about how Mancini's way is what is the best way to eat waffles.

 

[BlueAnorak]

There's something very strange going on at City at the moment, and I'm not trying to entertain debate by saying it.
Even by Bob's usual abrasive style, this is on a completely new level.
I just can't get my head around it. Whether "you" are an outer or inner or fencesitter it just doesn't sit right.

I thought it was obvious. There will be a large turnover of players in the summer. At least 4 out and around 6 in and Only those who give it all for the cause will still be here at the end of July.

So you would be happy if Vince was one of the players to go?

Don't be daft - he isn't going. He's under contract for the next 6 years and can't buy out his contract for the next 4.

 

[Blue Mooner]

I thought it was obvious. There will be a large turnover of players in the summer. At least 4 out and around 6 in and Only those who give it all for the cause will still be here at the end of July.

So you would be happy if Vince was one of the players to go?

Don't be daft - he isn't going. He's under contract for the next 6 years and can't buy out his contract for the next 4.

Strange that Mancini is such a bad man manager yet Kompany committed a 6 year contract to the club whilst under his management.

Kompany's mrs is mancunian born and bred so I think he will be happy to stay a while longer.

Manager and player in disagreement shocker! Ycnmiu so they had a disagreement mancio reminded him who is boss. I'm sure both of them are adult enough to move on. Shame some of our fans can't.

 

[Blue Heaven]

F*ck me, I've always enjoyed this thread but what I'm reading over the last 10 pages or so is just beyond. The Mail, The Sun, The F*cking Daily Mirror, it's like the Rag shop has hit town big time.

Just a thought, on the Kompany snub. It was already agreed that he'd play the 60. No tension, no problem.

However, the media, and the same on here will ply any story to get their goal as they have lost the argument.

PS. Mancini is here for a while, get used to it. I'm off on my jollies ;)

Don't worry, this Island of lost souls will still be here when you get back, by that time we'll have a photoshop of Mancini and Kim Jong-un urinating on a pic of Sami Nasri

Bobby and Kim Jong-un are fellow diplomats, are they not? Two eminently reasonable men who make only the most measured of pronouncements.<br /><br />-- Tue Apr 02, 2013 3:58 pm --<br /><br />

So you would be happy if Vince was one of the players to go?

Don't be daft - he isn't going. He's under contract for the next 6 years and can't buy out his contract for the next 4.

Strange that Mancini is such a bad man manager yet Kompany committed a 6 year contract to the club whilst under his management.

Kompany's mrs is mancunian born and bred so I think he will be happy to stay a while longer.

Manager and player in disagreement shocker! Ycnmiu so they had a disagreement mancio reminded him who is boss. I'm sure both of them are adult enough to move on. Shame some of our fans can't.

At the wages Vinny was offered on a long-term deal, his signing was an inevitability. It doesn't mean that he can't, or won't, be moved on.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

So you would be happy if Vince was one of the players to go?

Don't be daft - he isn't going. He's under contract for the next 6 years and can't buy out his contract for the next 4.

Strange that Mancini is such a bad man manager yet Kompany committed a 6 year contract to the club whilst under his management.

Kompany's mrs is mancunian born and bred so I think he will be happy to stay a while longer.

Manager and player in disagreement shocker! Ycnmiu so they had a disagreement mancio reminded him who is boss. I'm sure both of them are adult enough to move on. Shame some of our fans can't.

Having clicked on your name last week and seen the dozens of topics you start bitching about our fans it's no Great surprise to see you going down that road again.

Now let me just make this abundantly clear. The problem is not Mancini having a problem with kompany. The problem is Mancini choosing to go public with that problem. Do you understand there is a difference here? If you don't , I suggest you keep a close eye on tomorrow's papers.

Have a look at them, and ask yourself if this problem wouldn't have been better addresses behind closed doors. If your answer is 'yes it would' then Mancini has made a cock up.

 

[Blue Mooner]

F*ck me, I've always enjoyed this thread but what I'm reading over the last 10 pages or so is just beyond. The Mail, The Sun, The F*cking Daily Mirror, it's like the Rag shop has hit town big time.

Just a thought, on the Kompany snub. It was already agreed that he'd play the 60. No tension, no problem.

However, the media, and the same on here will ply any story to get their goal as they have lost the argument.

PS. Mancini is here for a while, get used to it. I'm off on my jollies ;)

Don't worry, this Island of lost souls will still be here when you get back, by that time we'll have a photoshop of Mancini and Kim Jong-un urinating on a pic of Sami Nasri

Bobby and Kim Jong-un are fellow diplomats, are they not? Two eminently reasonable men who make only the most measured of pronouncements.

-- Tue Apr 02, 2013 3:58 pm --

Don't be daft - he isn't going. He's under contract for the next 6 years and can't buy out his contract for the next 4.

Strange that Mancini is such a bad man manager yet Kompany committed a 6 year contract to the club whilst under his management.

Kompany's mrs is mancunian born and bred so I think he will be happy to stay a while longer.

Manager and player in disagreement shocker! Ycnmiu so they had a disagreement mancio reminded him who is boss. I'm sure both of them are adult enough to move on. Shame some of our fans can't.

At the wages Vinny was offered on a long-term deal, his signing was an inevitability. It doesn't mean that he can't, or won't, be moved on.

Mmmm so Vinny doesn't like the man management skills of Mancini so commits himself for 6 years!? Versus running your contract down, having no transfer fee and effectively being able to add any transfer fee, or a proportion of, on top of any wages!? Add in the fact he is probably one of the most sought after defenders, he could have commanded top dollar from anyone.

Strange logic for a man who doesn't like the managers managerial style?

He could be sold but it would only be at the clubs choosing and for a fee we are happy with.