Mancini

[andyhinch]

I gave up debating on Mancini and his tenure at city because I know I'm right :) and everyone else's opinion regarding Mancini should be let go is Wrong! ;)

I am exactly the same as you......by the way what is your opinion ha-ha!!.

I have no idea what either of you think about Mancini, but you're both bang on.

Can't argue against it

 

[George Hannah]

I wonder if those most vocal posters on here (as well as anyone else of course) could dispassionately list the 3 managers that they would most like to see in charge at City in descending order of preference.

I venture that if people were truly honest very few of the people putting forward their list would include the names that aere now connected with getting the job as they most likely include Pep and Jose and more than likely Klopp.

If that is the case I rest mine.

As someone who is definitely anyone else I would venture the slightly sparkling Pelligrini is a name bubbling under. The other two might be Messrs De Boer and Laudrup.

 

[EricBrooksGhost]

654 pages. Stunning.

Feels alot but it's only 164 with my Tapatalk settings so bring it on....

 

[chesterbells]

Need to give up with the Mancini's crap in Europe mantra, in English football he could (with FA cup this year) have 3 pots in 3 years.
European cups will follow but we may only win 1 or 2 per 10 years - there are other big clubs outside of England, Real Madrid have won nowt in Europe for 11 years!
So what if we didn't get out of the group stage, did you expect to win it so soon? All we did was not earn an extra 5 million revenue in reality.

Who said anything about winning it?! (Exaggerate to make the point??)

I would expect better than 4th in the table and played 6 won 0

 

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[Chi-town blues]

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[Dethred]

Need to give up with the Mancini's crap in Europe mantra, in English football he could (with FA cup this year) have 3 pots in 3 years.
European cups will follow but we may only win 1 or 2 per 10 years - there are other big clubs outside of England, Real Madrid have won nowt in Europe for 11 years!
So what if we didn't get out of the group stage, did you expect to win it so soon? All we did was not earn an extra 5 million revenue in reality.

Mancini sacked from Inter Milan after winning several league titles but failing in Europe (despite getting into the knockouts). Two (?) years later Mourinho wins the Champions League with largely the same team.

Mancini, with City, has won 3 matches out of 12.

Mancini, with City, won 2 of those against a team that is now in the Spanish second division, and except for a last gasp Aguero goal would have drawn one. The second of the two games against a later-relegated team was after the lost their top players to injury.

Mancini, with City, won a third time against a Munich team that was already through, and fielded a second-choice squad for their away game. Hardly an accomplishment.

Mancini, with City, directly contributed to no fewer than 5 of the goals scored against us in the matches against Dortmund and Ajax. Changing the system to 3-5-2, immediately letting in a goal, and then changing back to 4-4-2 (AFTER TAKING OFF THE SECOND FUCKING CENTERBACK) led to a loss in Amsterdam, and earlier in the draw against Dortmund at Eastlands.

Mancini, with City, contributed 3 of those 5 goals by setting up his defense in a zonal marking system, allowing a team with an average height difference of several inches to but three past us from corners. (fucking shambolic and downright embarrassing).

Mancini, with City, was lucky to get all three points from the 6 CL matches, despite the expectation of us at least challenging for a spot in the quarter or semi finals.

(FYI, you make yourself sound quite retarded when you somehow connect "progress" or "success" in a league with an explicit expectation of winning that competition. Try not to do that any more, its horrible.)

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

Need to give up with the Mancini's crap in Europe mantra, in English football he could (with FA cup this year) have 3 pots in 3 years.
European cups will follow but we may only win 1 or 2 per 10 years - there are other big clubs outside of England, Real Madrid have won nowt in Europe for 11 years!
So what if we didn't get out of the group stage, did you expect to win it so soon? All we did was not earn an extra 5 million revenue in reality.

(FYI, you make yourself sound quite retarded when you somehow connect "progress" or "success" in a league with an explicit expectation of winning that competition. Try not to do that any more, its horrible.)

Was that really called for?

 

[Bill]

So if there's logic to the managers being mentioned, what's the issue with debating them?

You've said yourself that the likelihood of Mancini or other "top tier" managers won't be able to co-exist with Txiki, so let's discuss who can?

I seriously find it hard to understand how precious some people get when discussing the issue of the managerial position, it's no different than discussing a said player that may be available to improve the squad.

Let's face it if i said we could sign Messi, someone would say he wouldn't fit in to our system etc.........

There isn't an issue with debating them. We have 600 pages debating them. I like debating them. But it is funny as fuck when people started off banging the drum for Jose as the one man to take us forward and ended up doing a backwards triple somersault with pike to splash down on...Frank De Boer and his 3 years in the Dutch League.

You need a heart of stone not to find it funny.

I think the outers will even start to find positives in Paolo Di Canio or Mick McCarthy if they were somehow linked to the club. This is the "anyone but Mancini" thread not "top replacements for Mancini" thread.

Bingo.

 

[Exeter Blue I am here]

There isn't an issue with debating them. We have 600 pages debating them. I like debating them. But it is funny as fuck when people started off banging the drum for Jose as the one man to take us forward and ended up doing a backwards triple somersault with pike to splash down on...Frank De Boer and his 3 years in the Dutch League.

You need a heart of stone not to find it funny.

I think the outers will even start to find positives in Paolo Di Canio or Mick McCarthy if they were somehow linked to the club. This is the "anyone but Mancini" thread not "top replacements for Mancini" thread.

Bingo.

Ah, you'd like the thread to be about that wouldn't you, cos it would suit the agenda of portraying the "outers" as hate filled, gibbering loons? However, what the thread is actually about is discussing whether Mancini, who, for the avoidance of doubt is a good manager, is nonetheless sufficiently limited tactically to ever carry us beyond a certain point. And on that score there have been enough articulate pointers from Joe Mercer's Way, Didsbury Dave, OB1 and others to sink a battleship (and I can even see one above from Dethred). It may or may not prove to be a gamble, but a deserving matter for debate it most certainly is, no matter how much you may wish to pretend otherwise

 

[Skashion]

I think we'll be at Steve Bruce before long. It seems in this thread like every manager in the world is better than a man who's won nine trophies with four clubs in two of Europe's major leagues.

 

[Anonymous]

I think the outers will even start to find positives in Paolo Di Canio or Mick McCarthy if they were somehow linked to the club. This is the "anyone but Mancini" thread not "top replacements for Mancini" thread.

Bingo.

Ah, you'd like the thread to be about that wouldn't you, cos it would suit the agenda of portraying the "outers" as hate filled, gibbering loons? However, what the thread is actually about is discussing whether Mancini, who, for the avoidance of doubt is a good manager, is nonetheless sufficiently limited tactically to ever carry us beyond a certain point. And on that score there have been enough articulate pointers from Joe Mercer's Way, Didsbury Dave, OB1 and others to sink a battleship (and I can even see one above from Dethred). It may or may not prove to be a gamble, but a deserving matter for debate it most certainly is, no matter how much you may wish to pretend otherwise

I'll let you in on a secret ... just don't tell anyone i told you ... Bill secretly knows that Mancini although good, isn't good enough for the long term at CIty ... :)

 

[bernabias home shirt]

I think we'll be at Steve Bruce before long. It seems in this thread like every manager in the world is better than a man who's won nine trophies with four clubs in two of Europe's major leagues.

Anyone but Mancini.

 

[Delboy352]

Need to give up with the Mancini's crap in Europe mantra, in English football he could (with FA cup this year) have 3 pots in 3 years.
European cups will follow but we may only win 1 or 2 per 10 years - there are other big clubs outside of England, Real Madrid have won nowt in Europe for 11 years!
So what if we didn't get out of the group stage, did you expect to win it so soon? All we did was not earn an extra 5 million revenue in reality.

Mancini sacked from Inter Milan after winning several league titles but failing in Europe (despite getting into the knockouts). Two (?) years later Mourinho wins the Champions League with largely the same team.

Mancini, with City, has won 3 matches out of 12.

Mancini, with City, won 2 of those against a team that is now in the Spanish second division, and except for a last gasp Aguero goal would have drawn one. The second of the two games against a later-relegated team was after the lost their top players to injury.

Mancini, with City, won a third time against a Munich team that was already through, and fielded a second-choice squad for their away game. Hardly an accomplishment.

Mancini, with City, directly contributed to no fewer than 5 of the goals scored against us in the matches against Dortmund and Ajax. Changing the system to 3-5-2, immediately letting in a goal, and then changing back to 4-4-2 (AFTER TAKING OFF THE SECOND FUCKING CENTERBACK) led to a loss in Amsterdam, and earlier in the draw against Dortmund at Eastlands.

Mancini, with City, contributed 3 of those 5 goals by setting up his defense in a zonal marking system, allowing a team with an average height difference of several inches to but three past us from corners. (fucking shambolic and downright embarrassing).

Mancini, with City, was lucky to get all three points from the 6 CL matches, despite the expectation of us at least challenging for a spot in the quarter or semi finals.

(FYI, you make yourself sound quite retarded when you somehow connect "progress" or "success" in a league with an explicit expectation of winning that competition. Try not to do that any more, its horrible.)

Fine lines between success and failure imo...

Should have beaten BM in their own back yard last season when Boateng firstly on Silva, then on Richards should have had us with 2 penalties when the score was 0-0...the table would have had a very different look then...

If Milner had been playing against RM, then again imo we wouldn't have conceded at least 1 of the goals when we were 2-1 up...he would have covered his fullback and tranny boy wouldn't have got his shot in...again, the table would have had a very different look, not to mention that Madrid and Dortumund are top sides as proved in this year's CL...and for all the droolers over Dortumd, they are also miles behind Bayern this season...(currently 20 points)...

as I say...fine lines...

 

[waspish]

Why are the fans who want Mancini to stay bothering discussing is tenure with outers? No argument whatsoever they put forward doesn't stick with me at this time in Mancini's tenure, maybe after another 2 seasons my feeling might change but right now it will be lunacy to part company with one of city's best managers ever...

 

[Anonymous]

Why are the fans who want Mancini to stay bothering discussing is tenure with outers? No argument whatsoever they put forward doesn't stick with me at this time in Mancini's tenure, maybe after another 2 seasons my feeling might change but right now it will be lunacy to part company with one of city's best managers ever...

Hahaha. You guys are pure comedy. Every week you give it "i'm done with this thread", yet everyday you're back.

 

[waspish]

Why are the fans who want Mancini to stay bothering discussing is tenure with outers? No argument whatsoever they put forward doesn't stick with me at this time in Mancini's tenure, maybe after another 2 seasons my feeling might change but right now it will be lunacy to part company with one of city's best managers ever...

Hahaha. You guys are pure comedy. Every week you give it "i'm done with this thread", yet everyday you're back.

Its more of a post to the fans who don't want Mancini to go so not directed at you move on ;)

 

[Anonymous]

Why are the fans who want Mancini to stay bothering discussing is tenure with outers? No argument whatsoever they put forward doesn't stick with me at this time in Mancini's tenure, maybe after another 2 seasons my feeling might change but right now it will be lunacy to part company with one of city's best managers ever...

Hahaha. You guys are pure comedy. Every week you give it "i'm done with this thread", yet everyday you're back.

Its more of a post to the fans who don't want Mancini to go so not directed at you move on ;)

Having just re read your post I believe you've inadvertently become an outer. Maybe you should sober up before posting ... ;)

 

[chesterbells]

There isn't an issue with debating them. We have 600 pages debating them. I like debating them. But it is funny as fuck when people started off banging the drum for Jose as the one man to take us forward and ended up doing a backwards triple somersault with pike to splash down on...Frank De Boer and his 3 years in the Dutch League.

You need a heart of stone not to find it funny.

I think the outers will even start to find positives in Paolo Di Canio or Mick McCarthy if they were somehow linked to the club. This is the "anyone but Mancini" thread not "top replacements for Mancini" thread.

Bingo.

Can't see what's the problem with taking a view that JM would be the best choice as replacement but not the only choice.

 

[Blue Mooner]

Need to give up with the Mancini's crap in Europe mantra, in English football he could (with FA cup this year) have 3 pots in 3 years.
European cups will follow but we may only win 1 or 2 per 10 years - there are other big clubs outside of England, Real Madrid have won nowt in Europe for 11 years!
So what if we didn't get out of the group stage, did you expect to win it so soon? All we did was not earn an extra 5 million revenue in reality.

Mancini sacked from Inter Milan after winning several league titles but failing in Europe (despite getting into the knockouts). Two (?) years later Mourinho wins the Champions League with largely the same team.

Mancini, with City, has won 3 matches out of 12.

Mancini, with City, won 2 of those against a team that is now in the Spanish second division, and except for a last gasp Aguero goal would have drawn one. The second of the two games against a later-relegated team was after the lost their top players to injury.

Mancini, with City, won a third time against a Munich team that was already through, and fielded a second-choice squad for their away game. Hardly an accomplishment.

Mancini, with City, directly contributed to no fewer than 5 of the goals scored against us in the matches against Dortmund and Ajax. Changing the system to 3-5-2, immediately letting in a goal, and then changing back to 4-4-2 (AFTER TAKING OFF THE SECOND FUCKING CENTERBACK) led to a loss in Amsterdam, and earlier in the draw against Dortmund at Eastlands.

Mancini, with City, contributed 3 of those 5 goals by setting up his defense in a zonal marking system, allowing a team with an average height difference of several inches to but three past us from corners. (fucking shambolic and downright embarrassing).

Mancini, with City, was lucky to get all three points from the 6 CL matches, despite the expectation of us at least challenging for a spot in the quarter or semi finals.

(FYI, you make yourself sound quite retarded when you somehow connect "progress" or "success" in a league with an explicit expectation of winning that competition. Try not to do that any more, its horrible.)

Fine lines between success and failure imo...

Should have beaten BM in their own back yard last season when Boateng firstly on Silva, then on Richards should have had us with 2 penalties when the score was 0-0...the table would have had a very different look then...

If Milner had been playing against RM, then again imo we wouldn't have conceded at least 1 of the goals when we were 2-1 up...he would have covered his fullback and tranny boy wouldn't have got his shot in...again, the table would have had a very different look, not to mention that Madrid and Dortumund are top sides as proved in this year's CL...and for all the droolers over Dortumd, they are also miles behind Bayern this season...(currently 20 points)...

as I say...fine lines...

You seriously could not make this sh*t up.

using champs league stats as a basis for sacking a manager whilst choosing to ignore all his other very jotable achievements - which incidentally de boer, laudrup and pellegrini can't boast and yet they would be better replacements

At what point do players become responsible for poor performances? dethred blames mancini for conceding goals against ajax from corners because of zonal marking and yet we have consistently had the best defence in the prem. what about the chance that the players simply didnt do their jobs?

he also chooses to ignore that we went out if a group that will likely contain two semi finalists this season and last season napoli got to the last eight and bayern to the final

the outers are being exposed that their views are driven purely a dislike of mancini rather than any modicum of common sense or rational thinking.