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[tolmie's hairdoo]

It's merely for the purpose of giving Chelsea a shove.

Beasley has written it as a favour because as it stands, Jose's preferred choices are not open to him at this stage.

That's what I don't get though mate.

Surely it's the easiest deal going to be done, if necessary and both parties want it. Chelsea have a lame duck in place and Jose is on the market having managed at Chelsea before.

If it was going to happen it would already be done and there'd be no need for a "shove".

Maybe Roman is finding it more difficult to swallow his pride than many people have suggested?

Jose could well end up there but it's clearly not a smooth deal.

The fact other clubs have been thrown into the mix is just so transparent, as is the source quote he could earn more money elsewhere.

Jose, trying to be all things to all people, as per usual.

I have a hunch, Abramovich may not be taken with the idea he could one day have Mourinho trying to walk out on him for Old Toilet.

Perhaps Chelsea are also keeping their powder dry until they know if they qualify for the Champions League.

 

[samharris]

It's merely for the purpose of giving Chelsea a shove.

Beasley has written it as a favour because as it stands, Jose's preferred choices are not open to him at this stage.

That's what I don't get though mate.

Surely it's the easiest deal going to be done, if necessary and both parties want it. Chelsea have a lame duck in place and Jose is on the market having managed at Chelsea before.

If it was going to happen it would already be done and there'd be no need for a "shove".

Chelsea havent got their CL spot just yet.. I think that quite important tbh.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

It's merely for the purpose of giving Chelsea a shove.

Beasley has written it as a favour because as it stands, Jose's preferred choices are not open to him at this stage.

That's what I don't get though mate.

Surely it's the easiest deal going to be done, if necessary and both parties want it. Chelsea have a lame duck in place and Jose is on the market having managed at Chelsea before.

If it was going to happen it would already be done and there'd be no need for a "shove".

Chelsea havent got their CL spot just yet.. I think that quite important tbh.

As above.

Seemingly, this article eludes to wanting a deal done with Chelsea right now, so it's clearly not a pre-requisite for Jose.

But with £12m a year wages and wanting a significant transfer budget, perhaps the loss of Champions League revenue puts a different slant of things.

And hopefully, Falcao not also rocking up there!!

 

[Danamy]

It's merely for the purpose of giving Chelsea a shove.

Beasley has written it as a favour because as it stands, Jose's preferred choices are not open to him at this stage.

That's what I don't get though mate.

Surely it's the easiest deal going to be done, if necessary and both parties want it. Chelsea have a lame duck in place and Jose is on the market having managed at Chelsea before.

If it was going to happen it would already be done and there'd be no need for a "shove".

Chelsea havent got their CL spot just yet.. I think that quite important tbh.

And there it is right there ^^^^^^^^^^

One of the conditions of his return is a top 4 spot, without that, no deal!

Oh and that tiny detail of a huge contract to be thrashed out

 

[Rammy Blue]

That's what I don't get though mate.

Surely it's the easiest deal going to be done, if necessary and both parties want it. Chelsea have a lame duck in place and Jose is on the market having managed at Chelsea before.

If it was going to happen it would already be done and there'd be no need for a "shove".

Chelsea havent got their CL spot just yet.. I think that quite important tbh.

And there it is right there ^^^^^^^^^^

One of the conditions of his return is a top 4 spot, without that, no deal!

Oh and that tiny detail of a huge contract to be thrashed out

Beasley seems to make out that it's Chelsea pissing about and that Jose wants the job. Surely that implies, although obviously not gospel, that Chelsea are the ones that wouldn't want Jose if they didn't get top4 this season? I don't see the logic in that as if they miss top4 then surely having Jose gives them a better chance of still moving forward rather than stagnating.

 

[blueinsa]

Bob it is again then next year.

At least it will keep this thread alive ;-)

 

[Marvin]

"Never go back". How does this apply to Mourinho at Chelsea?

I've heard a lot of people saying it wont work, but why? If the relationship broke down once with Abramovic surely the trust has gone. That's the only thing I can think of.

Anyone else have any thoughts on this. The media tell us that Abramovic has patched up his differences with Mourinho now. Is this true?

4th spot is genuinely in the balance for Chelsea. They are playing very well at the moment, but they have a key game with Spurs coming up, and with all their fixtures I can see them dropping points. Arsenal wont drop many now

 

[Rammy Blue]

Bob it is again then next year.

At least it will keep this thread alive ;-)

Can't see it being that simple. I'd still love to know what the fook Bob was dragged over to AD for....

 

[Danamy]

That's what I don't get though mate.

Surely it's the easiest deal going to be done, if necessary and both parties want it. Chelsea have a lame duck in place and Jose is on the market having managed at Chelsea before.

If it was going to happen it would already be done and there'd be no need for a "shove".

Chelsea havent got their CL spot just yet.. I think that quite important tbh.

As above.

Seemingly, this article eludes to wanting a deal done with Chelsea right now, so it's clearly not a pre-requisite for Jose.

But with £12m a year wages and wanting a significant transfer budget, perhaps the loss of Champions League revenue puts a different slant of things.

And hopefully, Falcao not also rocking up there!!

I put it in the Prem thread yesterday, if they don't get top 4 it's a whole new ball game, the cat will certainly be put amongst the pigeons.

 

[Anonymous]

It's merely for the purpose of giving Chelsea a shove.

Beasley has written it as a favour because as it stands, Jose's preferred choices are not open to him at this stage.

That's what I don't get though mate.

Surely it's the easiest deal going to be done, if necessary and both parties want it. Chelsea have a lame duck in place and Jose is on the market having managed at Chelsea before.

If it was going to happen it would already be done and there'd be no need for a "shove".

Maybe Roman is finding it more difficult to swallow his pride than many people have suggested?

Jose could well end up there but it's clearly not a smooth deal.

The fact other clubs have been thrown into the mix is just so transparent, as is the source quote he could earn more money elsewhere.

Jose, trying to be all things to all people, as per usual.

I have a hunch, Abramovich may not be taken with the idea he could one day have Mourinho trying to walk out on him for Old Toilet.

Perhaps Chelsea are also keeping their powder dry until they know if they qualify for the Champions League.

You know my feelings on this one Tolmie. People who think it's a done deal for Mourinho going back to Chelsea are being a bit premature. In many respects it's more problematic for him to go back to Chelsea than it would be for him to pitch up here. Here he has to contend with a man who once didn't give him a job. At Chelsea he's got the people who sacked him, the player who betrayed him, the infrastructure which he considers fucked him over.

All this talk of "oh he's so far up the rags arse it's obvious he doesn't want to come here" is just one reading. The other is, he's making nice because he knows once he returns to England that will have to go out the window and hostilities will have to commence.

 

[Rammy Blue]

"Never go back". How does this apply to Mourinho at Chelsea?

I've heard a lot of people saying it wont work, but why? If the relationship broke down once with Abramovic surely the trust has gone. That's the only thing I can think of.

Anyone else have any thoughts on this. The media tell us that Abramovic has patched up his differences with Mourinho now. Is this true?

4th spot is genuinely in the balance for Chelsea. They are playing very well at the moment, but they have a key game with Spurs coming up, and with all their fixtures I can see them dropping points. Arsenal wont drop many now

Spuds may be the ones to struggle now due to losing Bale and Lennon. Shame really that us beating them at shite hart lane would do Chelsea and Arse a favour....

 

[Anonymous]

Bob it is again then next year.

At least it will keep this thread alive ;-)

Can't see it being that simple. I'd still love to know what the fook Bob was dragged over to AD for....

Maybe he went of his own accord looking for assurances about his future. Maybe they called him over there to tell him there's no worries over his own future. We can speculate either way although the timing is a bit strange with Khaldoun having been in Manc very recently.

 

[bernabias home shirt]

Tolmie what ever came of jose's people saying he was interested in us
After them advances he made everything went quiet
Was he given a knockback?

 

[Rammy Blue]

Bob it is again then next year.

At least it will keep this thread alive ;-)

Can't see it being that simple. I'd still love to know what the fook Bob was dragged over to AD for....

Maybe he went of his own accord looking for assurances about his future. Maybe they called him over there to tell him there's no worries over his own future. We can speculate either way although the timing is a bit strange with Khaldoun having been in Manc very recently.

Even stranger when we deny it was on club business....

edit....and remember it was said that Bob had a long meeting with Khaldoon in his office post Newcastle game.

 

[blueinsa]

Bob it is again then next year.

At least it will keep this thread alive ;-)

Can't see it being that simple. I'd still love to know what the fook Bob was dragged over to AD for....

I said earlier that our poor showing in the CL could well be the thing that saves him as it leaves us not quite able to attract someone like Jose?

As for Jose to Chelsea, the only reason to go back would be to win the CL and with RDM doing that, it holds nothing for him other than money and the chance to go live in his London pad again. He has done all he could do at Chelsea imo and a return will no doubt see them challenge again in the league but it wont fit with the Jose plan of going in to a club and being the big star who brings home the bacon.

Maybe just maybe, Bob was in AD to discuss our transfer targets for the summer?

 

[Danamy]

"Never go back". How does this apply to Mourinho at Chelsea?

I've heard a lot of people saying it wont work, but why? If the relationship broke down once with Abramovic surely the trust has gone. That's the only thing I can think of.

Anyone else have any thoughts on this. The media tell us that Abramovic has patched up his differences with Mourinho now. Is this true?

4th spot is genuinely in the balance for Chelsea. They are playing very well at the moment, but they have a key game with Spurs coming up, and with all their fixtures I can see them dropping points. Arsenal wont drop many now

Add to that Benitez looking at the here and now, he doesn't give a shit if they get top 4 or not, he wont be around to reep the benefits.

He's looking at the pots he can win to add to his CV, he'll be playing his strongest teams in Europa and FA cup no worries about that.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

That's what I don't get though mate.

Surely it's the easiest deal going to be done, if necessary and both parties want it. Chelsea have a lame duck in place and Jose is on the market having managed at Chelsea before.

If it was going to happen it would already be done and there'd be no need for a "shove".

Chelsea havent got their CL spot just yet.. I think that quite important tbh.

And there it is right there ^^^^^^^^^^

One of the conditions of his return is a top 4 spot, without that, no deal!

Oh and that tiny detail of a huge contract to be thrashed out

The article is in complete contradiction to that, though.

He wants it signed now, hence the plant by Beasley in the first place.

Jose is trying to apply pressure so that he comes out smelling of roses either way.

 

[andyhinch]

Does anyone know if the spaniards were over there with him?

 

[Rammy Blue]

Chelsea havent got their CL spot just yet.. I think that quite important tbh.

And there it is right there ^^^^^^^^^^

One of the conditions of his return is a top 4 spot, without that, no deal!

Oh and that tiny detail of a huge contract to be thrashed out

The article is in complete contradiction to that, though.

He wants it signed now, hence the plant by Beasley in the first place.

Jose is trying to apply pressure so that he comes out smelling of roses either way.

Thanks Tolm, that's what I was trying to point out. Still don't really see why missing out on top4 would be a reason for Roman to NOT employ Jose though?

 

[Marvin]

"Never go back". How does this apply to Mourinho at Chelsea?

I've heard a lot of people saying it wont work, but why? If the relationship broke down once with Abramovic surely the trust has gone. That's the only thing I can think of.

Anyone else have any thoughts on this. The media tell us that Abramovic has patched up his differences with Mourinho now. Is this true?

4th spot is genuinely in the balance for Chelsea. They are playing very well at the moment, but they have a key game with Spurs coming up, and with all their fixtures I can see them dropping points. Arsenal wont drop many now

Add to that Benitez looking at the here and now, he doesn't give a shit if they get top 4 or not, he wont be around to reep the benefits.

He's looking at the pots he can win to add to his CV, he'll be playing his strongest teams in Europa and FA cup no worries about that.

Not sure about that. CFC did not play their strongest team at home to Rubin Kazan