Mancini

[tolmie's hairdoo]

I wonder what it was that persuaded Mancini to speak with Neil Custis at such a juncture in our season?

And why he decided to give this interview to a journalist who was told by David Platt just three weeks before the manager was dismissed that he was definitely staying, no matter what?

And why the Sun, a paper that always has this club's best interests at heart, decided it was actually worth the front page today, rather than just a straight back?

Mancini again playing to the gallery and making it all about him.

Doesn't give a shit about this club and always makes a point of distancing his ire from Khaldoon, because he knows better than most not to pick a fight with a man with deeper pockets.

He demands recognition for the success of our team this season, will that also include any failures then?

You have to laugh, Tolm.

I think he genuinely believes his own mythology. I bet he blames Soriano for him getting passed over for all the decent jobs this summer, too.

There was no Soriano or Txiki, 12 months prior, when Mancini was issuing ultimatums in Abu Dhabi.

It really is a shame. Our owner afforded him the opportunity to carve his own little niche in our history.

He knows football politics better than most, having lived them in Italy.

The Monaco job, Russia, he was as prudent as City were.

What sums him up is the timing of this interview. Trying to point score whilst we are down.

 

[Berkovic_blue]

Does anyone on here seriously care if he doesn't smile at the tea lady?

All this supposed "ITK" stuff is awfully convenient imo

Well, I spoke to someone who is most definitely in the know a few weeks ago in the Directors' Lounge at the Fulham v City game; someone senior who worked with Mancini and he said that whatever I had heard, Mancini was many many times worse to work with.

So what? It does not prove anything just somebodys opinion. There is probably not a successful buisnessmen/politician in this country who has not been disparaged by somebody they have worked with.

Is it only me who works at an orgainstaion where not everybody gets on? Was he successful...yes. We went from 6th to league champions in two full season under his management. An incredible achievement.

If the club wished to go in a different direction, e.g football director and Mancini was not prepared to concede power then you could argue the sacking is justifiable and in truth that is probably the reason for his dismissal.

If it was due to his fall out with players why did he get a new five year contract?

Exactly. Just because some nobody on the internet claims to have been told something, does not make it a fact or even approaching the truth.<br /><br />-- Sun Feb 09, 2014 5:29 pm --<br /><br />

What sums him up is the timing of this interview. Trying to point score whilst we are down.

So you think he was straight on the phone to journalists at 5pm yesterday? LOL

I'd put the tinfoil hat away if I was you

 

[Nicholas van Whatsisface]

Two things. And before going any further, my opinion is that I'll always be grateful to Mancini for what be brought to City - he was absolutely the right Manager at the right time for us - but that the time was also right for us to part ways in Summer 2013 as his methods were clearly not working anymore. We needed to make a change, and the Club were right to be looking at their options.

Firstly - all those claiming the Club somehow mishandled his sacking, ruining the Cup Final for both him and us - there is compelling evidence that the leak of his sacking actually came from our CEO and DoF's former club rather than from within. If anything, the Club then removed him straight after rather than at the end of the season to avoid him having to sit there like a lemon for the last two games of the season with everyone knowing he was a goner. As stated, We needed to make a change, and the Club were right to be looking at their options - it's just unfortunate that it leaked the way it did. But that was not the Club's intention, so its pointless wailing at them for it.

If anything, this shows the Club made a move to limit the impact on both him and us given the hand they were dealt. Khaldoon has said as much since.

Secondly - it's a bit rich Mancini criticising the Club for talking to other people when he has openly admitted to doing the same, talking to Monaco and Russia, to name just two. Quite why he feels the Club were behaving 'like Judas', whilst he was behaving absolutely properly, is beyond me - and is indicative of the Mancini myopia which in particular plagued the final year of his time with us. Quite what he expects to achieve by such a flagrant act of hypocrisy is very difficult to fathom without drawing some less than positive conclusions about his intentions towards us as a Club.

I'm disappointed in him - but not particularly surprised, in fairness!

 

[Tim of the Oak]

He wasn't a "top bloke" to the people he worked with. That was the problem.

Does anyone on here seriously care if he doesn't smile at the tea lady?

All this supposed "ITK" stuff is awfully convenient imo

Well, I spoke to someone who is most definitely in the know a few weeks ago in the Directors' Lounge at the Fulham v City game; someone senior who worked with Mancini and he said that whatever I had heard, Mancini was many many times worse to work with.

Oh great!! More negative briefings from ITKs at the Club. Hope it wasn't another failed kit man!!

Yes we have moved on as a Club, however, when the media reveal that Moyes was the fourth person interviewed on the short list to be manager, Txiki and Ferran won't be looking too clever.

 

[Troubadour]

I wonder what it was that persuaded Mancini to speak with Neil Custis at such a juncture in our season?

And why he decided to give this interview to a journalist who was told by David Platt just three weeks before the manager was dismissed that he was definitely staying, no matter what?

And why the Sun, a paper that always has this club's best interests at heart, decided it was actually worth the front page today, rather than just a straight back?

Mancini again playing to the gallery and making it all about him.

Doesn't give a shit about this club and always makes a point of distancing his ire from Khaldoon, because he knows better than most not to pick a fight with a man with deeper pockets.

He demands recognition for the success of our team this season, will that also include any failures then?

I'll tell you why Tolmie...
Because he was shat upon from a very great height by the club.
It wasn't the sacking. Virtually all football managers get the sack at sometime.
It was the way the club (and particularly our PR department) dealt with it afterwards trying (very hard) to
tarnish his name, reputation, character & legacy. Thats why.
And if if the same had been been done to you - you may, just may think the same way.
The club were nothing short of a disgrace the way they leaked nasty, spiteful, personal stuff to the media
and openly briefed against him when he had no right or channel of reply (due to the confidentiality agreement signed).
How would you feel if the same had been done to you?

 

[Tim of the Oak]

I wonder what it was that persuaded Mancini to speak with Neil Custis at such a juncture in our season?

And why he decided to give this interview to a journalist who was told by David Platt just three weeks before the manager was dismissed that he was definitely staying, no matter what?

And why the Sun, a paper that always has this club's best interests at heart, decided it was actually worth the front page today, rather than just a straight back?

Mancini again playing to the gallery and making it all about him.

Doesn't give a shit about this club and always makes a point of distancing his ire from Khaldoon, because he knows better than most not to pick a fight with a man with deeper pockets.

He demands recognition for the success of our team this season, will that also include any failures then?

You have to laugh, Tolm.

I think he genuinely believes his own mythology. I bet he blames Soriano for him getting passed over for all the decent jobs this summer, too.

There was no Soriano or Txiki, 12 months prior, when Mancini was issuing ultimatums in Abu Dhabi.

It really is a shame. Our owner afforded him the opportunity to carve his own little niche in our history.

He knows football politics better than most, having lived them in Italy.

The Monaco job, Russia, he was as prudent as City were.

What sums him up is the timing of this interview. Trying to point score whilst we are down.

I don't understand your point. Are you claiming it was a tragedy we won the league?

Well it is time for MP to get the team winning again and these type of articles can be consigned to the rubbish heap.

 

[Bill]

pmsl.

only thing worse than stubboness is desperation to be proved right.

bob buries pelli all day long.

not in the dressing room, not in the canteen or in social circles but on the field of play.

you know, the bit that matters.

All opinion, of course.

You realise it's actually impossible for Pellers to have won a trophy for us at this stage?

And to be fair, we're challenging on three more fronts than we were this time last year.

But you go ahead and call other posters stubborn.

pelli is doing a decent job, what I'm saying is bob is better.

 

[blue ranger]

I wonder what it was that persuaded Mancini to speak with Neil Custis at such a juncture in our season?

And why he decided to give this interview to a journalist who was told by David Platt just three weeks before the manager was dismissed that he was definitely staying, no matter what?

And why the Sun, a paper that always has this club's best interests at heart, decided it was actually worth the front page today, rather than just a straight back?

Mancini again playing to the gallery and making it all about him.

Doesn't give a shit about this club and always makes a point of distancing his ire from Khaldoon, because he knows better than most not to pick a fight with a man with deeper pockets.

He demands recognition for the success of our team this season, will that also include any failures then?

You have to laugh, Tolm.

I think he genuinely believes his own mythology. I bet he blames Soriano for him getting passed over for all the decent jobs this summer, too.

The timing of Mancini's article is questionable - although it's probably safe to assume the sun have kept it back until we've lost a game or form dipped.

Tolmie in particular your comments on Mancini leave a sour taste. Can't you just accept that lots of city fans appreciate him and will always appreciate what he did for our club.

Maybe the time was right for him to move on - he had definitely lost 1 of 2 players in the changing room - however if Mancini had been backed like he should have been after we won the league I'm sure we'd have had a few more trophies in the cabinet. I suspect you know that too.

 

[Bluemoon115]

pmsl.

only thing worse than stubboness is desperation to be proved right.

bob buries pelli all day long.

not in the dressing room, not in the canteen or in social circles but on the field of play.

you know, the bit that matters.

All opinion, of course.

You realise it's actually impossible for Pellers to have won a trophy for us at this stage?

And to be fair, we're challenging on three more fronts than we were this time last year.

But you go ahead and call other posters stubborn.

pelli is doing a decent job, what I'm saying is bob is better.

"Decent".

If Mancini had us in this position you'd all be wanking yourselves silly.

 

[OB1]

Does anyone on here seriously care if he doesn't smile at the tea lady?

All this supposed "ITK" stuff is awfully convenient imo

Well, I spoke to someone who is most definitely in the know a few weeks ago in the Directors' Lounge at the Fulham v City game; someone senior who worked with Mancini and he said that whatever I had heard, Mancini was many many times worse to work with.

Oh great!! More negative briefings from ITKs at the Club. Hope it wasn't another failed kit man!!

Yes we have moved on as a Club, however, when the media reveal that Moyes was the fourth person interviewed on the short list to be manager, Txiki and Ferran won't be looking too clever.

The kit man doesn't count a senior. I asked a question and got an answer. Whether anyone on here likes the answer or not, it is an indication of what key decision makers at the club thought about Mancini and if anyone on here does not understand the importance of that, they are a bit dim.