Manuel Pellegrini (cont)

[NipHolmes]

Wins the double.
No pre season for many key players in the team.
Lost Negredo and not able to replace.
Most difficult opening fixtures of any side in the league.
Injuries.
Bayern was a close game, should've had penalty and then lost the game. Roma close again and we were robbed in Moscow with that equalizing penalty.
Chelsea fixture we should've had penalty via Costa foul on Dzeko. Arsenal fixture we should've had a penalty via Wilshere handball.
Cap off the fact we were hamstrung by FFP.

Third place isn't so bad for a team in a 'bad moment'. We have been unfortunate so far imho and once form returns we will be fine. Chelsea have had a tremendous start and its almost unfair to compare ourselves to what is imo a perfect start from them. When you get a piss easy CL group and add Costa, Fabregas and Luis to a team it's no wonder they've improved their showings in the league. Fair dues to them, I have no problem finishing second to them should they continue being hard to beat and resilient in winning, they play good football and look drilled all over the pitch.

Keep the faith blues. If you want to cheering up look at United's summer business and their league position. Fingers crossed they miss top4 again.

I think we'd all settle for 2nd/3rd if there was a little more indication about where things are heading. Part of the issue with Pellegrini is his age and the fact that most of us seem to feel even if he stays beyond this season, he isn't going to be here longer than 1 more season after that.

There's something very insidious about managerial instability especially where the players are concerned. As much as I agree with Soriano's vision that managers generally are best in 3/5 year cycles, you have acknowledge that having that sort of mindset leaves a weakness players can exploit if they don't fancy the manager.

Pellegrini will go the summer after next when his contract ends, we will go for Pep then imo. Only way we change this summer is if Ancelotti or Klopp becomes available I reckon. No point changing for change sake, we must upgrade only. Clichy, Nastasic, Sinclair and Dzeko should be sold. Add a possible move for Nasri and Navas too?

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Just read the last couple of pages, and what a spoilt bunch of mard arses we've become. Looks like a lot of our fans agree that we didn't actually win the league last season, more like Liverpool and Chelsea threw it away.

Agreed. Shock horror, we may not win it this season. But - ready yourselves for a shock blues - teams don't win the league every season. Not this league.

Let's say we only finish third this year.

That means we've finished 3rd (on goal diff v 2nd), 1st, 2nd, 1st, 3rd in 5 seasons. With an fa cup and league cup and charity shield thrown in for good measure.

Not good enough clearly.

After waiting 35 yrs for a trophy - any trophy - and 44 yrs for a league title to have done the above in 5 seasons is monumental.

But not for some of us. Some of us have become all that we used to hate about that lot from down the road.

I slagged MP off early last season too , which might make me a hypocrite this time around but I learned from that. Have patience and enjoy the best city sides any of us have ever seen.

Very well said, mate.

 

[BillyShears]

Pellegrini will go the summer after next when his contract ends, we will go for Pep then imo. Only way we change this summer is if Ancelotti or Klopp becomes available I reckon. No point changing for change sake, we must upgrade only. Clichy, Nastasic, Sinclair and Dzeko should be sold. Add a possible move for Nasri and Navas too?

That is the obvious succession plan IMO, I just fear a situation where the club need to act faster because of the slide in results.

With regards players: Dzeko, Kolarov, Clichy, Milner, Navas, Nasri, Zabaleta, Nastastic, plus the deadwood likes of Sinclair all need to be replaced if City want to build a team to win the CL.

 

[City1974]

Wins the double.
No pre season for many key players in the team.
Lost Negredo and not able to replace.
Most difficult opening fixtures of any side in the league.
Injuries.
Bayern was a close game, should've had penalty and then lost the game. Roma close again and we were robbed in Moscow with that equalizing penalty.
Chelsea fixture we should've had penalty via Costa foul on Dzeko. Arsenal fixture we should've had a penalty via Wilshere handball.
Cap off the fact we were hamstrung by FFP.

Third place isn't so bad for a team in a 'bad moment'. We have been unfortunate so far imho and once form returns we will be fine. Chelsea have had a tremendous start and its almost unfair to compare ourselves to what is imo a perfect start from them. When you get a piss easy CL group and add Costa, Fabregas and Luis to a team it's no wonder they've improved their showings in the league. Fair dues to them, I have no problem finishing second to them should they continue being hard to beat and resilient in winning, they play good football and look drilled all over the pitch.

Keep the faith blues. If you want to cheering up look at United's summer business and their league position. Fingers crossed they miss top4 again.

I think we'd all settle for 2nd/3rd if there was a little more indication about where things are heading. Part of the issue with Pellegrini is his age and the fact that most of us seem to feel even if he stays beyond this season, he isn't going to be here longer than 1 more season after that.

There's something very insidious about managerial instability especially where the players are concerned. As much as I agree with Soriano's vision that managers generally are best in 3/5 year cycles, you have acknowledge that having that sort of mindset leaves a weakness players can exploit if they don't fancy the manager.

Pellegrini will go the summer after next when his contract ends, we will go for Pep then imo. Only way we change this summer is if Ancelotti or Klopp becomes available I reckon. No point changing for change sake, we must upgrade only. Clichy, Nastasic, Sinclair and Dzeko should be sold. Add a possible move for Nasri and Navas too?

Agree with most of this, also we do not know of Pellegrini has the ultimate say on signing sor if Bergiristain and Sorano do this. Of the latter do then no blame can be put on any manager.

As for players yes the following have proved not good enough and should be sold if possible:

Sinclair - no where good enough
Clichy - to many errors
Nastasic - not wanted at the club and seems to be drifting complexly
Sagna - Poor quality
Caballero - Should have got a young English keeper as backup to Hart i.e. MAYBE McCarthy who is now 2nd choice at QPR
Dzeko - good at times but way to inconsistent also
Navas - hot and cold performances
Nasri - overrated, not as good as Silva, goes missing in many games, and slows us down significantly

Possibly also Fernandinho (I believe he is not good enough) and now also it appears Fernando
Toure has probably reached the end after this season for us also.

Key 5 players to build upon:

Hart, Zabaleta, Kompany, Silva and Aguero

with Milner as a good\solid support for these 5

 

[cibaman]

Wins the double.
No pre season for many key players in the team.
Lost Negredo and not able to replace.
Most difficult opening fixtures of any side in the league.
Injuries.
Bayern was a close game, should've had penalty and then lost the game. Roma close again and we were robbed in Moscow with that equalizing penalty.
Chelsea fixture we should've had penalty via Costa foul on Dzeko. Arsenal fixture we should've had a penalty via Wilshere handball.
Cap off the fact we were hamstrung by FFP.

Third place isn't so bad for a team in a 'bad moment'. We have been unfortunate so far imho and once form returns we will be fine. Chelsea have had a tremendous start and its almost unfair to compare ourselves to what is imo a perfect start from them. When you get a piss easy CL group and add Costa, Fabregas and Luis to a team it's no wonder they've improved their showings in the league. Fair dues to them, I have no problem finishing second to them should they continue being hard to beat and resilient in winning, they play good football and look drilled all over the pitch.

Keep the faith blues. If you want to cheering up look at United's summer business and their league position. Fingers crossed they miss top4 again.

I think we'd all settle for 2nd/3rd if there was a little more indication about where things are heading. Part of the issue with Pellegrini is his age and the fact that most of us seem to feel even if he stays beyond this season, he isn't going to be here longer than 1 more season after that.

There's something very insidious about managerial instability especially where the players are concerned. As much as I agree with Soriano's vision that managers generally are best in 3/5 year cycles, you have acknowledge that having that sort of mindset leaves a weakness players can exploit if they don't fancy the manager.

Pellegrini will go the summer after next when his contract ends, we will go for Pep then imo. Only way we change this summer is if Ancelotti or Klopp becomes available I reckon. No point changing for change sake, we must upgrade only. Clichy, Nastasic, Sinclair and Dzeko should be sold. Add a possible move for Nasri and Navas too?

I don't want Pellegrini to go, but keeping him because we are "waiting for Pep" seems to be a particularly bad idea.

 

[Marvin]

I was encouraged by the QPR game.

We went into it with confidence low, tired, and with key players injured. We were poor at times, but we battled back twice and that's the most important thing.....the commitment from the players is there.

With that in place we'll recover. There's so much quality in this squad that providing the attitude is good, we'll recover.

 

[EalingBlue2]

Just read the last couple of pages, and what a spoilt bunch of mard arses we've become. Looks like a lot of our fans agree that we didn't actually win the league last season, more like Liverpool and Chelsea threw it away.

Agreed. Shock horror, we may not win it this season. But - ready yourselves for a shock blues - teams don't win the league every season. Not this league.

Let's say we only finish third this year.

That means we've finished 3rd (on goal diff v 2nd), 1st, 2nd, 1st, 3rd in 5 seasons. With an fa cup and league cup and charity shield thrown in for good measure.

Not good enough clearly.

After waiting 35 yrs for a trophy - any trophy - and 44 yrs for a league title to have done the above in 5 seasons is monumental.

But not for some of us. Some of us have become all that we used to hate about that lot from down the road.

I slagged MP off early last season too , which might make me a hypocrite this time around but I learned from that. Have patience and enjoy the best city sides any of us have ever seen.

Very well said, mate.

Even the mighty chelsea who we rave about have won the title 3 times in What is now abramovich's 11 seasons after a big Harding investment.

As for 3rd if you look at the seasons of arsenal, Liverpool, rags etc who have all started worse than us them there is nothing to suggest we will drop below 2nd

 

[IWasHere]

I think we'd all settle for 2nd/3rd if there was a little more indication about where things are heading. Part of the issue with Pellegrini is his age and the fact that most of us seem to feel even if he stays beyond this season, he isn't going to be here longer than 1 more season after that.

There's something very insidious about managerial instability especially where the players are concerned. As much as I agree with Soriano's vision that managers generally are best in 3/5 year cycles, you have acknowledge that having that sort of mindset leaves a weakness players can exploit if they don't fancy the manager.

Pellegrini will go the summer after next when his contract ends, we will go for Pep then imo. Only way we change this summer is if Ancelotti or Klopp becomes available I reckon. No point changing for change sake, we must upgrade only. Clichy, Nastasic, Sinclair and Dzeko should be sold. Add a possible move for Nasri and Navas too?

Agree with most of this, also we do not know of Pellegrini has the ultimate say on signing sor if Bergiristain and Sorano do this. Of the latter do then no blame can be put on any manager.

As for players yes the following have proved not good enough and should be sold if possible:

Sinclair - no where good enough
Clichy - to many errors
Nastasic - not wanted at the club and seems to be drifting complexly
Sagna - Poor quality
Caballero - Should have got a young English keeper as backup to Hart i.e. MAYBE McCarthy who is now 2nd choice at QPR
Dzeko - good at times but way to inconsistent also
Navas - hot and cold performances
Nasri - overrated, not as good as Silva, goes missing in many games, and slows us down significantly

Possibly also Fernandinho (I believe he is not good enough) and now also it appears Fernando
Toure has probably reached the end after this season for us also.

Key 5 players to build upon:

Hart, Zabaleta, Kompany, Silva and Aguero

with Milner as a good\solid support for these 5

Bet you weren't saying fernandinho wasn't good enough last season

 

[Millwallawayveteran1988]

Pellegrini will go the summer after next when his contract ends, we will go for Pep then imo. Only way we change this summer is if Ancelotti or Klopp becomes available I reckon. No point changing for change sake, we must upgrade only. Clichy, Nastasic, Sinclair and Dzeko should be sold. Add a possible move for Nasri and Navas too?

Agree with most of this, also we do not know of Pellegrini has the ultimate say on signing sor if Bergiristain and Sorano do this. Of the latter do then no blame can be put on any manager.

As for players yes the following have proved not good enough and should be sold if possible:

Sinclair - no where good enough
Clichy - to many errors
Nastasic - not wanted at the club and seems to be drifting complexly
Sagna - Poor quality
Caballero - Should have got a young English keeper as backup to Hart i.e. MAYBE McCarthy who is now 2nd choice at QPR
Dzeko - good at times but way to inconsistent also
Navas - hot and cold performances
Nasri - overrated, not as good as Silva, goes missing in many games, and slows us down significantly

Possibly also Fernandinho (I believe he is not good enough) and now also it appears Fernando
Toure has probably reached the end after this season for us also.

Key 5 players to build upon:

Hart, Zabaleta, Kompany, Silva and Aguero

with Milner as a good\solid support for these 5

Bet you weren't saying fernandinho wasn't good enough last season

Last season was then, this is now. Same could be said about Dzeko but most are saying get rid of him.

 

[Lavinda Past]

Agree with most of this, also we do not know of Pellegrini has the ultimate say on signing sor if Bergiristain and Sorano do this. Of the latter do then no blame can be put on any manager.

As for players yes the following have proved not good enough and should be sold if possible:

Sinclair - no where good enough
Clichy - to many errors
Nastasic - not wanted at the club and seems to be drifting complexly
Sagna - Poor quality
Caballero - Should have got a young English keeper as backup to Hart i.e. MAYBE McCarthy who is now 2nd choice at QPR
Dzeko - good at times but way to inconsistent also
Navas - hot and cold performances
Nasri - overrated, not as good as Silva, goes missing in many games, and slows us down significantly

Possibly also Fernandinho (I believe he is not good enough) and now also it appears Fernando
Toure has probably reached the end after this season for us also.

Key 5 players to build upon:

Hart, Zabaleta, Kompany, Silva and Aguero

with Milner as a good\solid support for these 5

Bet you weren't saying fernandinho wasn't good enough last season

Last season was then, this is now. Same could be said about Dzeko but most are saying get rid of him.

Last season was then, this is now. Same could be said about Pellegrini but many are saying get rid of him.