Manuel Pellegrini (cont)

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ever since MP took over our defence has gone down hill and the form of all our defenders has got worse (including and most noticeably Kompany and zabaleta) - this is no coincidence. This is due to a lack of balance in our play.....Im not surprised that kolorov has been happier since MP took over as he isn't expected to defend (which he is poor at anyway).

The absence of yay a and nasri at the same time is very important BUT we knew that Yaya would be gone for a month and haven't changed our system to compensate for this......Silva has been subsequently crowded out with ease.

His persistent playing of Navas who has been woeful for weeks is infuriating as well especially when he could have used the FA cup to blood a youngster in that position.
 
sh249 said:
Ray78 said:
The second manager who has failed to keep the squad fully motivated after winning a couple of trophies the previous season.
There's definitely a problem with the attitude/mentality of certain of the players/the squad as a whole.
yep, players get complacent too easily. doesn't matter whether its back of a losing run or winning run.
 
blue ranger said:
Damocles said:
To be fair if the man leads us to victory over Barcelona then we'll look back on this as an aberration.

And he has that ability within him. Let's not go throw the baby out with the bathwater yet. He's not a bad manager, he's a manager with a very specific view on how things are done. Maverick would be the wrong word as that would paint an isolated figure where Pellegrini is the exact opposite of this, but he and the people at City seem to believe in their philosophy and think they're doing the right thing.

Outside of the youth problems with I now feel are pretty glaring, I don't have any problems with him and think he can potentially give us a result in Barca. I should say this quietly today because I understand that people are upset about the Boro result but I actually think he can win us the Champions League. He's a big game manager. He has always struggled against these types of teams, even in his very first games at the club.

It's important to remember we dont have Yaya in that first leg v Barca. Can't see us beating them in a million years.

The biggest disappointment for me is that this season we've lost the inability to defend. Even Kompany was diabolical today.

I suppose it's that I have come to terms with the fact that this team can't really play against those smaller teams who are up for it and want to press us off the pitch like a Cup Final (and I mean no disrespect to Boro who were a similar size to us pre-takeover and one of the big clubs in England).

If you think of those games; Stoke, Palace, Boro, Burnley, Wednesday, Sunderland, Cardiff - even Liverpool last year, a team that is willing to press us hard and are heavily motivated by their crowd and create a pressure cooker atmosphere makes us vulnerable. I don't think this is a Pellegrini thing as the same happened under Mancini and think it's a City thing.

Where I do think Pellegrini gets it wrong is that he seems to make the same mistakes against them - we play a style of football that is extremely conductive to quick countering games and combined with the high line/unsettled defence we struggle to defend it. I think our defence is better individually than it currently looks and we're not comfortable. I think our attackers have never looked better or more confident. Again, it's a trade off between the two.

This isn't really a plea to put 5 in midfield as I don't think it's that simple against these types of teams but just our players using their heads a bit more and trying to take the crowd out of the game using deliberate and slow tempoed passing would be a huge help to us as a club. Too often we let emotion and desperation to win overtake us - many times we come back and turn it around but it seems more based on luck than skill.

I have very few doubts in Pellegrini. As controversial as this might be, the person who I'm starting to doubt is Vincent Kompany. Not as a footballer who we know is one of the best in the world in his role but as a leader. He seems to live on emotions and is motivated in that heart-on-his-sleeve type way as many of our team seems to be. Pellegrini would probably provide a good influence on this type of player and centre them a bit. We admire those players in England and sort of give them more props as we get behind their emotion, but really I wonder if we'd be better served giving the armband and the captain's role to somebody who can keep their head and not get carried away quite as much?

I think of the difference between Scott Parker and Andrea Pirlo. Most Premier League watchers saw him charge around the pitch, diving into tackles and remarked how great of a player he was but really he was running around like a headless chicken. Pirlo played a similar position but was never charging around, never lost his composure and was always thinking about things clearly.

I wonder which one of them Vincent Kompany is more like.
 
I wouldn't call out Pellegrini for this loss, this goes completely to idiot who thought it's funny to travel to Abu Dhabi in the middle of the season and come back 24 hours before the game.
 
Anyone that has an excuse for a performance like that isn't a Blue IMO

That was a disgrace and we've been awful all season

We don't even play attractive football anymore and the signings have taken us backwards
 
Pellegrini needs to appoint or really have a good talk with the defense coach and really work on set pieces. We have thrown away games and points simply because we cannot defend set pieces or our back four are too exposed and uncoordinated.

Players take a lot of the responsibility but is very very obvious that the manager should also take responsibility as well and address this issue. Especially set pieces. We also need intelligence when it comes to the defensive midfield position. Someone that really understands that role and can do the job.

Last year a much maligned player did a job especially in the final stretch, I am talking about Garcia.

Perhaps it is time to move a defender into that position, maybe kompany for instance as a holding midfielder or in a sweeper role. I am just throwing things out there but something needs to done defensively and in set pieces or else it will be very difficult to win anything this season.
 
From a good run of form he is now right up against the wall once again. We lose to Chelsea and we are back in an uphill race and I really don't think they will throw it away a second time, we have thrown away the League and FA Cups and I really do think Messi is going to tear our joke of a defence to shreds in the CL. The pressure could really be on.
 
Get on the phone to the Southampton or Middlesbrough coach and start the conversation "How do you setup a side to defend well".
 
What's worrying me is the amount of players under Pellegrini that have seriously regressed from last season. We look absolutely clueless all over the pitch. The only pattern to our play is the slow tempo we implement. We lose possession on the edge of our opponents box and within 5 passes they are on top of our defence. It's far too easy for opposing teams. I could manage a win against City at the minute. Man mark Silva. Defend deep and wait for Kompany to dive in on you in and around the box and win a free kick. Simples! All our players have turned into dogsh*t overnight. 1 or 2 might lose a bit of form over a season which you'd expect, but then it's up to the other players to help them through the bad patch. IMO I think the players have lost faith in his tactics, style of play - whatever (i don't know) but it's frustrating to see some of the best players the Premier League has had the privilege see turn in displays which we have seen especially today. I think he is a dead man walking. A defeat against Chelsea and we could see the axe start to grind.
 
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