Manuel Pellegrini (cont)

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I really like MP mind you I also really liked RM.
I think we now have to question some decisions, the money spent in the summer which presumably he had some say in, the decision to keep playing Navas when his end product has been dipping, and the decision to keep Boyata ahead of Nasty which looks more bizarre with each further sighting of big Dedryk on the pitch
It's funny....when we played most of last season with 2 up front and looked wide open at the back loads of people on here were unhappy yet defensively we were far better last season using that system whereas now, having mostly reverted to 1 up front, we are shipping 2 goals every second week.
 
Damocles said:
blue ranger said:
Damocles said:
To be fair if the man leads us to victory over Barcelona then we'll look back on this as an aberration.

And he has that ability within him. Let's not go throw the baby out with the bathwater yet. He's not a bad manager, he's a manager with a very specific view on how things are done. Maverick would be the wrong word as that would paint an isolated figure where Pellegrini is the exact opposite of this, but he and the people at City seem to believe in their philosophy and think they're doing the right thing.

Outside of the youth problems with I now feel are pretty glaring, I don't have any problems with him and think he can potentially give us a result in Barca. I should say this quietly today because I understand that people are upset about the Boro result but I actually think he can win us the Champions League. He's a big game manager. He has always struggled against these types of teams, even in his very first games at the club.

It's important to remember we dont have Yaya in that first leg v Barca. Can't see us beating them in a million years.

The biggest disappointment for me is that this season we've lost the inability to defend. Even Kompany was diabolical today.

I suppose it's that I have come to terms with the fact that this team can't really play against those smaller teams who are up for it and want to press us off the pitch like a Cup Final (and I mean no disrespect to Boro who were a similar size to us pre-takeover and one of the big clubs in England).

If you think of those games; Stoke, Palace, Boro, Burnley, Wednesday, Sunderland, Cardiff - even Liverpool last year, a team that is willing to press us hard and are heavily motivated by their crowd and create a pressure cooker atmosphere makes us vulnerable. I don't think this is a Pellegrini thing as the same happened under Mancini and think it's a City thing.

Where I do think Pellegrini gets it wrong is that he seems to make the same mistakes against them - we play a style of football that is extremely conductive to quick countering games and combined with the high line/unsettled defence we struggle to defend it. I think our defence is better individually than it currently looks and we're not comfortable. I think our attackers have never looked better or more confident. Again, it's a trade off between the two.

This isn't really a plea to put 5 in midfield as I don't think it's that simple against these types of teams but just our players using their heads a bit more and trying to take the crowd out of the game using deliberate and slow tempoed passing would be a huge help to us as a club. Too often we let emotion and desperation to win overtake us - many times we come back and turn it around but it seems more based on luck than skill.

I have very few doubts in Pellegrini. As controversial as this might be, the person who I'm starting to doubt is Vincent Kompany. Not as a footballer who we know is one of the best in the world in his role but as a leader. He seems to live on emotions and is motivated in that heart-on-his-sleeve type way as many of our team seems to be. Pellegrini would probably provide a good influence on this type of player and centre them a bit. We admire those players in England and sort of give them more props as we get behind their emotion, but really I wonder if we'd be better served giving the armband and the captain's role to somebody who can keep their head and not get carried away quite as much?

I think of the difference between Scott Parker and Andrea Pirlo. Most Premier League watchers saw him charge around the pitch, diving into tackles and remarked how great of a player he was but really he was running around like a headless chicken. Pirlo played a similar position but was never charging around, never lost his composure and was always thinking about things clearly.

I wonder which one of them Vincent Kompany is more like.

I fear this is going to be a more common theme as the season draws on, building up to nothing short of rampant over the summer should we fail to win anything.

The CL will make or break Kompany IMO. If we really got a grip of that competition I doubt you'd see a finer center half and captain anywhere.
 
MeatHunterrr said:
Kazzydeyna said:
Ray78 said:
Agreed. That is also down to Txiki Begiristain in getting the squad balance right.


Agreed 100%

Whilst we allow him and his compadre to stay at city we will only ever be a side that can have a go at a title every other year.
At this rate they'll be getting another good manager the sack.
its not txikis fault that the players don't even try, like the players at the end. disgraceful performance from the players.

It is a collective decision. Txiki Begiristain who is fully in charge of bringing in the players with the right mentality to the club but the scouting team and along with some input by the manager.
 
He's got to do something about our midfield, it's been a mess all season. We haven't had any balance and I can only think of a handful of good performances from our central midfielders all year. It's putting a lot of pressure on our defence, which in turn is failing badly. We don't look to be playing with any shape at all.
 
coleridge said:
I had the feeling that this would turn into a 'Pellers Out' kinda evening. Bluemoon never disappoints. Sad but true.


First Mancini, now Pellers. Your post is absolutely on the money.

I wonder if the Chelsea boards are clamouring for Maureen to go, somehow I doubt it.

To describe some on here as 'fickle' would be somewhat of an understatement.

While the accountability ultimately will land with the boss, there are times when players need to accept responsibility. Today was one of those days.
 
It's his signings that have been most disappointing to me. Are the two Brazilians an improvement on Barry or De Jong? Mangala better than Nasty or Lescott? Navas & Jovetic have been largely disappointing. I know it's been said a million times before, but if RM had been given the money that MP has spent and been allowed to sign Hazard, Van Rapist & De Rossi, I think we'd be in a better position both domestically and in Europe.
 
Davs 19 said:
coleridge said:
I had the feeling that this would turn into a 'Pellers Out' kinda evening. Bluemoon never disappoints. Sad but true.


First Mancini, now Pellers. Your post is absolutely on the money.

I wonder if the Chelsea boards are clamouring for Maureen to go, somehow I doubt it.

To describe some on here as 'fickle' would be somewhat of an understatement.

While the accountability ultimately will land with the boss, there are times when players need to accept responsibility. Today was one of those days.

Yes, you are right. I'd be happier seeing some of them leaving our club this summer than MP.
 
Richie said:
It's his signings that have been most disappointing to me. Are the two Brazilians an improvement on Barry or De Jong? Mangala better than Nasty or Lescott? Navas & Jovetic have been largely disappointing. I know it's been said a million times before, but if RM had been given the money that MP has spent and been allowed to sign Hazard, Van Rapist & De Rossi, I think we'd be in a better position both domestically and in Europe.

I think Fernandinho is better than both Barry and De Jong.
 
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