Manuel Pellegrini (cont)

[bugsyblue]

He has to go now.

wont happen unless we get mullered by barca and top 4 looks in serious danger

Sorry, I didn't mean literally now, I mean at the end of the season. No good getting rid midseason.

 

[hilts]

so are we now allowed to call for pellegrini to be shown the door without being called a rag or a WUM?

He is less than useless, Mancini was head a shoulders above this guy as our manager. Some of the players should have been shipped out not Mancini.
Have spent months telling my son that pellegrini is not the manager for us, he defended him at every opportunity, he now is seeing that i am right. Only the most blind fan would defend him now FFS we were playing relegation fodder, PATHETIC!

While we sit and laugh at the scum and their apparent clueless manager, a win tomorrow would put them just 3 points behind us we are in serious danager of not making a CL spot next season, but all the head in the sand supporters just cant see it!

Comparisons are pointless at this point fella and just lead to mud slinging, the only question is are this set of players good enough, and is our manager the person to lead them or change them if he has the power anyhow, personally i would like a manager with the power to hire and fire the players, not going to happen though

 

[Rammy Blue]

There's a fair amount of truth in some parts of your post but overall it's let down by claiming Silva played centre mid in a 4-4-2 and having a go at Jimmy who did well in his cameo.

Silva played at the point of a diamond midfield. Wierd because it's the first time I've ever seen Pellegrini play that formation.

I thought the starting lineup looked fine and the first half problem was an appalling lack of intensity and continual 'safe' passing. But the subs smacked of panic. Why on Gods earth did he keep Nasri on the field? He wasn't fit. Navas came on at the right time but that should have been a straight swap for Nasri. And lampard for fernando. Despite the pressure we were shapeless and lacking in creative ideas.

It was a dreadful performance from the team and the manager. The worst of the season. Really disappointing.

It was truly awful, I honestly can't remember feeling that way watching us in many, many years.

I disagree about the starting line-up, I thought it was an extremely poor selection. The only logic I believe MP employed was that knowing Yaya and Bony are back soon he thought he'd try and get us back into the old shape.

I just can't face dissecting that 90 mins as there was just too much that went wrong.

 

[BlueAnorak]

Today was kind of the nadir of Pellegrini's limitations as manager.

Playing Fernando in a 442 against a bottom 3 side at home despite him proving time and time again how diabolical he is in that role. Make no mistake, if Yaya was available it would have been a straight swap, one for one. No tactical tweaks, no slight change in shape, nothing, just Fernando out, Yaya in. So that means he's asking Fernando to do what Yaya does. Staggering.

He realised his ridiculous error at half time and put Silva centre mid for the second half and stayed 442. This despite the fact Silva has not played a single game at centre mid in a 442 in his entire career. He kept Nasri on the wing, despite the fact he's played the majority of his career in the middle. Strange.

We played better in the second half, had them on the ropes, looked like scoring, then he brought Dzeko off. Perhaps he was not fit enough to play 90 minutes, so we'll give him a pass on that. But he then brings Milner on. And plays him up front!! Like for like. Lol.

Now when all 3 strikers were out, in an emergency, Milner put in an admirable shift up front. But he's no more a centre forward than he is Komodo Dragon. His movement, touch, decision making was so poor up there that I actually felt sorry for the lad. Of course he got a lot of cheers for the running around though, this is Milner afterall. Took his goal superbly well from a free kick.

So as one last throw of the dice he brings Jovetic on, great, he can go up front and Milner can go in midfield. No, Silva off. Bizarre. Jovetic left wing, even more bizarre.

The last 25 minutes the team didn't know what the fuck they were doing. The ultimate Rag Arse Rovers. It made our calamitous away performance at Ajax look like a study in organised tactical efficiency.

Desperate for a goal to save our season, our tactical genius of a manager is sat on the bench while the season implodes around him. No urging the team on, no demanding focus and quality, no rocket up the arse. Just chilled out befuddlement. After all "a coach does his work in the week, once the game starts, there's very little the coach can do." You can imagine Fergurson, Mourinho, Mancini and Guadiola taking a similar view and sitting calmly on the bench as the season falls apart at home against Hull.

But Pellegrini has "trust" in the players, and that's all you need isn't it? Try telling that to Jovetic.

Not right at all. If YaYa was back Fernandinho would be dropped NOT the totally inept Fernando.

Also Milner played well in his cameo and his goal was a peach.

Aside from Peller's love for the inept Fernando, our main problems are a complete lack of pace, slow build ups, a total lack of willingness to run at the opposition, an aversion to shooting, woeful defending and the worst corner taking regieme I have EVER seen at City.

Other than that we're doing OK.

 

[BigOscar]

so are we now allowed to call for pellegrini to be shown the door without being called a rag or a WUM?

He is less than useless, Mancini was head a shoulders above this guy as our manager. Some of the players should have been shipped out not Mancini.
Have spent months telling my son that pellegrini is not the manager for us, he defended him at every opportunity, he now is seeing that i am right. Only the most blind fan would defend him now FFS we were playing relegation fodder, PATHETIC!

While we sit and laugh at the scum and their apparent clueless manager, a win tomorrow would put them just 3 points behind us we are in serious danager of not making a CL spot next season, but all the head in the sand supporters just cant see it!

So when Mancini did this exact thing, it was the players fault, but now it's happening to Pellegrini, it's because he's not a good manager? Not sure how anyone can use this logic. Mancini couldn't handle the post title winning hangover, neither can Pellegrini. Serious questions have to be asked about various of our key players mentally, but both managers have to accept that they've failed as well.

 

[Damanino]

If our current points/game average holds we gonna end up on less than 80 points. Pretty much 2012-2013 season where we couldnt do the trick meaning turn back a 6-7-8 points gap but it turned into a 10 points difference in the end.

Expect Chelsea to be closer to 90 than 80. We need to improve big time make sure we wont be under 80 based on "so far" stat.

I mean if we have to lose this title lose it like United did to us or Pool did to us than the way we lost it to United already around 33-34.th round. It hurts more if we lose last two rounds but means we put up a proper fight for it and the more it hurts the players probably the better as they will give more shit to fight next season.

Unless we put together a real 4-5 games winning streak right now its pretty much over and its not good if its 3 wins two draws because we get two draws at Stoke and at Anfield.

Today we just gave Chelsea a(nother) chance to draw/lose one more of their games. We shouldnt underrate Chelsea this much. Missing two big players, traditionally not ding that well away at Villa, what they do? Get 3 points even after losing early lead.
Us? Not fighting vs a shit Hull only start going for it after 50 minutes 1-0 down, first goal comes in last minute from freekick. If that hits the wall or woodwork now we would have even lost to Hull and master tactician Bruce rotfl.

Who cares now we bossed them at Stamford Bridge. We maybe bossed them, they were scared, and gap is 7 points either way. Who is laughing? Only Mourinho. Pelle tried to be funny that they play like Stoke. But still only Mourinho is laughing at the moment. With 7 points clear on a very inconsistent rival I would be laughing too.

Time to build a winning streak starting with Stoke away. Well where else than a place we dont win like since takeover or since Stoke is back in Prem L....
If Sparky manages two wins over Pelle with their squad Txiki could call him back seriously.

 

[IWasHere]

so are we now allowed to call for pellegrini to be shown the door without being called a rag or a WUM?

He is less than useless, Mancini was head a shoulders above this guy as our manager. Some of the players should have been shipped out not Mancini.
Have spent months telling my son that pellegrini is not the manager for us, he defended him at every opportunity, he now is seeing that i am right. Only the most blind fan would defend him now FFS we were playing relegation fodder, PATHETIC!

While we sit and laugh at the scum and their apparent clueless manager, a win tomorrow would put them just 3 points behind us we are in serious danager of not making a CL spot next season, but all the head in the sand supporters just cant see it!

Agree. Mr nice guy doesn't work in the prem but I'm afraid our players don't like being 'shouted' at or critisised and as you've said these are the fuckers that should've gone, not bobby manc.

As for pellers my general feeling now is just he picks a team and just tells them to just go and play. Why on earth navas (who's not my favourite but did have his best performance in a city shirt last week) not play and also milner! As someone mentioned before Fernando shouldnt have started. Don't get me started on Silva playing CM.

It's time to go now pellers, thanks for last season...yer just a shit mancini

 

[Sigh]

"We are going nowhere; we'll be lucky to finish top four. He's clearly tactically inept and cannot motivate the players. However, I think we should keep him until the end of the season as there is no point in getting rid of him now."

Lack on intestinal fortitude lies behind the conclusion. Gutless. Oh the irony.

There is every fucking reason to fire him sharpish if you believe we are going nowhere etc. This is football, not a fucking PR campaign. Get wise to yourselves. Focus on City not your damn rag mates in the pub and your self-image.

 

[Shaelumstash]

Today was kind of the nadir of Pellegrini's limitations as manager.

Playing Fernando in a 442 against a bottom 3 side at home despite him proving time and time again how diabolical he is in that role. Make no mistake, if Yaya was available it would have been a straight swap, one for one. No tactical tweaks, no slight change in shape, nothing, just Fernando out, Yaya in. So that means he's asking Fernando to do what Yaya does. Staggering.

He realised his ridiculous error at half time and put Silva centre mid for the second half and stayed 442. This despite the fact Silva has not played a single game at centre mid in a 442 in his entire career. He kept Nasri on the wing, despite the fact he's played the majority of his career in the middle. Strange.

We played better in the second half, had them on the ropes, looked like scoring, then he brought Dzeko off. Perhaps he was not fit enough to play 90 minutes, so we'll give him a pass on that. But he then brings Milner on. And plays him up front!! Like for like. Lol.

Now when all 3 strikers were out, in an emergency, Milner put in an admirable shift up front. But he's no more a centre forward than he is Komodo Dragon. His movement, touch, decision making was so poor up there that I actually felt sorry for the lad. Of course he got a lot of cheers for the running around though, this is Milner afterall. Took his goal superbly well from a free kick.

So as one last throw of the dice he brings Jovetic on, great, he can go up front and Milner can go in midfield. No, Silva off. Bizarre. Jovetic left wing, even more bizarre.

The last 25 minutes the team didn't know what the fuck they were doing. The ultimate Rag Arse Rovers. It made our calamitous away performance at Ajax look like a study in organised tactical efficiency.

Desperate for a goal to save our season, our tactical genius of a manager is sat on the bench while the season implodes around him. No urging the team on, no demanding focus and quality, no rocket up the arse. Just chilled out befuddlement. After all "a coach does his work in the week, once the game starts, there's very little the coach can do." You can imagine Fergurson, Mourinho, Mancini and Guadiola taking a similar view and sitting calmly on the bench as the season falls apart at home against Hull.

But Pellegrini has "trust" in the players, and that's all you need isn't it? Try telling that to Jovetic.

There's a fair amount of truth in some parts of your post but overall it's let down by claiming Silva played centre mid in a 4-4-2 and having a go at Jimmy who did well in his cameo.

The start of the second half we were playing 442, Fernando off, Navas right wing and Silva alongside Fernandinho in the middle. Not sure how you saw differently?

About Milner, I wasn't slagging him off mate. He came on and did his best, gave his all like he always does. But he was a square peg in a round hole. There's a reason centre forwards get paid the most. It's the most difficult position to play because the technique, subtlety of movement and runs is really a specialist skill. It's like asking a GP to perform open heart surgery. GP's do an incredible job, are incredibly talented, but intricate surgery is a different skill set all together.

I think the manager fucked up, it wasn't fair on Milner, or Jovetic.

 

[Shaelumstash]

Shalum loves a day like today

I really don't mate, I assure you. I'm absolutely gutted today, same as every other blue.