Manuel Pellegrini

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[quote="blueinsa"]So we won the game despite of the manager did we?

His "naive" tactics had us winning the game 1-0 and it should have been more but for the ref and his so called "naive" subs maintained that winning margin.

How the fuck some of you think that we won despite him is laughable.

10 mins of hoofball from the rags doesnt mean he doesnt know what he is doing lol.[/quote]

Yes we did.
 
TGR said:
cleavers said:
Paul_Powers_Tash said:
Taking Milner off was hard to understand. What could Manuel possibly have been thinking?
I would have thought he was thinking "we have a f**king BIG game on Wednesday night that Milner has to play in because of other injuries", probably.

How about winning the ' f**king BIG game' we were playing at the time first?

He then had to sub Sergio to make up for his cock up of subbing Milner. His substitutions yesterday were a nonsense.
Paul_Powers_Tash post is spot on. However as he said it's a cardinal sin to criticise Pelllegrini in the 'Manuel Pellegrini' thread
so most just don't bother anymore as its not worth the hassle.

Correct
 
TGR said:
cleavers said:
Paul_Powers_Tash said:
Taking Milner off was hard to understand. What could Manuel possibly have been thinking?
I would have thought he was thinking "we have a f**king BIG game on Wednesday night that Milner has to play in because of other injuries", probably.

How about winning the ' f**king BIG game' we were playing at the time first?
He did.
 
TGR said:
How about winning the ' f**king BIG game' we were playing at the time first?

He did win.

However as he said it's a cardinal sin to criticise Pelllegrini in the 'Manuel Pellegrini' thread
so most just don't bother anymore as its not worth the hassle.

I'm not sure where this falsehood stems from. I guess it should be no surprise that it is nearly always from the mouth of a dyed in the wool "we should never have sacked Bobby" poster. Pellegrini gets as much abuse on this forum as any other manager previous to him has. The only difference is that Pellegrini has the least reason to receive that abuse because all he's done so far is win the double. There's been no profligate spending the transfer market, no fighting with players, no fighting with the board. Just a quiet dignified man getting on with his job, and actually doing it well.

Maybe rather than crying into your hanky about how unfair it is that Pellegrini hasn't been sacked already, you should thank him for steadying a sinking a ship and getting it back on course.
 
cleavers said:
TGR said:
cleavers said:
I would have thought he was thinking "we have a f**king BIG game on Wednesday night that Milner has to play in because of other injuries", probably.

How about winning the ' f**king BIG game' we were playing at the time first?
He did.

You'd only ever save players for a big game if the game you're currently playing in has been won

Considering we all knew how important Milner was going to be yesterday in stopping Di Maria (see Di Maria's first 70 minutes) i would suggest it was vital to have him on the pitch for the full 90 minutes

If we're saying Milner is a vital part to us beating CSKA at home on Wednesday night then it would appear we may be going backwards a little bit

A derby game at 1-0 is not won until the full time whistle is blown, if they had got an equaliser would you have said that saving Milner for Wednesday was the right thing to do? Would you bollocks
 
l felt both managers got their initial team selection right from the off.

United had the right tactics, just not the quality in terms of personnel.

Their two centre backs split wide when De Gea had the ball, which saw us suffer for 20 minutes because Rooney could man mark Toure and that allowed Fellaini pretty much a free role to dominate the middle.

Can't stress enough how important Clichy and Milner were to help us lockdown the left hand side.

It enabled Fernando to make his challenges much higher up the pitch and that was the start of the change.

The substitution of Milner was a bizarre one as that was the licence for United to get the overlap going between Valencia and Di Maria.

A bit like the team, the manager needs to have little more boldness over the entire game, but without Silva, he set us up to win, regardless of all the bells and whistles.
 
Convenient to fight an argument which can not be proved.

We don't know If Utd's return into the game was caused by the subs or coincident with the subs, and we can't know
 
chris85mcfc said:
cleavers said:
TGR said:
How about winning the ' f**king BIG game' we were playing at the time first?
He did.

You'd only ever save players for a big game if the game you're currently playing in has been won

Considering we all knew how important Milner was going to be yesterday in stopping Di Maria (see Di Maria's first 70 minutes) i would suggest it was vital to have him on the pitch for the full 90 minutes

If we're saying Milner is a vital part to us beating CSKA at home on Wednesday night then it would appear we may be going backwards a little bit

A derby game at 1-0 is not won until the full time whistle is blown, if they had got an equaliser would you have said that saving Milner for Wednesday was the right thing to do? Would you bollocks

If we had scored when Navas hit the post after the substitutions we'd be lauding him genius then right?

Very fine lines mate, and considering we won the magnanimous thing to do IMO is to move on to Wednesday's games. Over analysis of a derby we won basically at a canter seems counter productive to me.
 
blueinsa said:
So we won the game despite of the manager did we?

His "naive" tactics had us winning the game 1-0 and it should have been more but for the ref and his so called "naive" subs maintained that winning margin.

How the fuck some of you think that we won despite him is laughable.

10 mins of hoofball from the rags doesnt mean he doesnt know what he is doing lol.

Let me ask a couple of questions then.
1. How do you think Kolarov would have faired against Januzaj or Di Maria?
2. Were we in total control for 70 minutes until the substitutions?
3. Do you think the substitutions effected the game?
4. Could you have predicted with an amazing degree of certainty the effect the substitutions would have on the game?
5. Did Pellegrini's decisions make our chances of winning the game more certain or less certain?
6. Should we stop bleating about things we cant control ie referees decisions and focus on the things we can control ie the pattern of the game?
 
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