Manuel Pellegrini

[cleavers]

Clearly if Navas had scored it would have been game over, but the substitutions didn't neccesarily stop our attacking threat (until Kun came off) but it opened us up to getting caught on the counter and saw a few bit of panic in defence which hadn't been seen up until the 70 minute mark

The point is though we didn't get caught on the counter attack, unless you call 50 yard hit and hope balls as long ball, and was it one decent cross that Fellaini couldn't put away ?

I don't think the subs made much difference either, I think they had nothing to lose and just started launching it, where there was a problem, was that our forward for much of that time, wasn't interested in holding the ball and bringing others into play. I thought Clichy was excellent down our left side all game, he got pushed back a bit for the last 20 minutes, but that was because they had no option to go for it. They failed we won, and slaughtering the manager for a win is a new low on here for me.

I criticised him last week, and rightly so, but this week I don't think its merited, yesterday was a tricky game, they were dangerous simply because of how shit they currently are, and they had nothing to lose (except the game).

 

[chris85mcfc]

7. Going to get right behind a man that won a double in his first ever season, has beaten the rags in his 3 games against them and has got us in a tidy position to kick on and hopefully have another very succesful season.

That's not really the point tho mate, im not anti-Pellegrini but I am anti-ridiculous decisions at important times of the game in important games

We come on here and admit if a player has had a poor game, so it shouldn't be any different for the manager, whoever is in charge

Unless you are sat on the bench and privvy to what is being discussed during the game, we have no idea why he made the decisions he did, none.

He Gets paid to make them and so far in his career, he has done a fantastic job.

We won the game 1-0 and it should and probably would have been 4-0 had the ref not been fucking blind/shit scared/ corrupt.

How the fuck anyone can have a moan is beyond me it really is.

Sorry mate but if you didn't notice a change in the last 20 minutes of the game then ill let you crack on

Just out of interest what do you think was the reason for the backs to the wall last 20?

 

[blueinsa]

Let me ask a couple of questions then.
1. How do you think Kolarov would have faired against Januzaj or Di Maria?
2. Were we in total control for 70 minutes until the substitutions?
3. Do you think the substitutions effected the game?
4. Could you have predicted with an amazing degree of certainty the effect the substitutions would have on the game?
5. Did Pellegrini's decisions make our chances of winning the game more certain or less certain?
6. Should we stop bleating about things we cant control ie referees decisions and focus on the things we can control ie the pattern of the game?

7. Going to get right behind a man that won a double in his first ever season, has beaten the rags in his 3 games against them and has got us in a tidy position to kick on and hopefully have another very succesful season.

And the answers to the first 6 questions are?

Like ive just said, how can we know the reasons behind a substitution apart from an obvious injury?

He might have been struggling, he may have been fucked, he might have done it because of Wednesday, he might have done it for a tactical reason only him and his staff are privvy to.

Whatever the reason was, we were winning the game and we wentmon to win the game.

He will argue and rightly so, his decisions were justified and as a blue, thats all I care about.

 

[FantasyIreland]

Who's moaning?

Its discussion based on some decidedly dodgy substitutions which could have cost us the points,where is the problem?

 

[moomba]

It was a shocker from MP, just thankful they didnt get the equaliser as he (rightly) would have been slaughtered for it. I don't buy the resting Milner for Wednesday night excuse, even if there was a valid reason to take him off Nasri was entirely the wrong replacement. As was Dzeko for Jovetic, both subs seemed crazy to me at the time and it proved to be so.

We win, and the manager has to take some credit for that. But I will never understand those two subs.

 

[blueinsa]

That's not really the point tho mate, im not anti-Pellegrini but I am anti-ridiculous decisions at important times of the game in important games

We come on here and admit if a player has had a poor game, so it shouldn't be any different for the manager, whoever is in charge

Unless you are sat on the bench and privvy to what is being discussed during the game, we have no idea why he made the decisions he did, none.

He Gets paid to make them and so far in his career, he has done a fantastic job.

We won the game 1-0 and it should and probably would have been 4-0 had the ref not been fucking blind/shit scared/ corrupt.

How the fuck anyone can have a moan is beyond me it really is.

Sorry mate but if you didn't notice a change in the last 20 minutes of the game then ill let you crack on

Just out of interest what do you think was the reason for the backs to the wall last 20?

Rags playing hoofball played a huge part in it. ive already said to think a side containing Rooney, Di Maria and van Persie was never going to create any pressure or chances is ridiculously naive, regardless of our tactics.

 

[chris85mcfc]

Who's moaning?

Its discussion based on some decidedly dodgy substitutions which could have cost us the points,where is the problem?

Exactly mate, apparently these days any questioning of tactics/substitutions is classed as moaning or criticising

It's just debate, he got it wrong and we got away with it, on another day we might have got picked off

I just don't think we should be taking liberties by taking off 2 of our most hard working players, regardless of the reason (injuries not included)

 

[chris85mcfc]

Unless you are sat on the bench and privvy to what is being discussed during the game, we have no idea why he made the decisions he did, none.

He Gets paid to make them and so far in his career, he has done a fantastic job.

We won the game 1-0 and it should and probably would have been 4-0 had the ref not been fucking blind/shit scared/ corrupt.

How the fuck anyone can have a moan is beyond me it really is.

Sorry mate but if you didn't notice a change in the last 20 minutes of the game then ill let you crack on

Just out of interest what do you think was the reason for the backs to the wall last 20?

Rags playing hoofball played a huge part in it. ive already said to think a side containing Rooney, Di Maria and van Persie was never going to create any pressure or chances is ridiculously naive, regardless of our tactics.

They were playing long balls and we dealt with those quite well i thought, and Di Maria wasn't anywhere near as effective as i thought he would be

Having said that we seemed to hand them the initiative in the last 20 minutes, it could have been a mixture of the substitutions (sick of typing that word today!!) and perhaps a bit of panic due to our recent results

But we should still be able to have an opinion on the game regardless of the result, my opinion is that every player was fantastic and Fernando had arguably his best game yet, so Pelle deserves credit for that, but i just think he got the substitutions wrong and it put us in an awkward position

 

[blueparrot]

Sorry mate but if you didn't notice a change in the last 20 minutes of the game then ill let you crack on

Just out of interest what do you think was the reason for the backs to the wall last 20?

Rags playing hoofball played a huge part in it. ive already said to think a side containing Rooney, Di Maria and van Persie was never going to create any pressure or chances is ridiculously naive, regardless of our tactics.

They were playing long balls and we dealt with those quite well i thought, and Di Maria wasn't anywhere near as effective as i thought he would be

Having said that we seemed to hand them the initiative in the last 20 minutes, it could have been a mixture of the substitutions (sick of typing that word today!!) and perhaps a bit of panic due to our recent results

But we should still be able to have an opinion on the game regardless of the result, my opinion is that every player was fantastic and Fernando had arguably his best game yet, so Pelle deserves credit for that, but i just think he got the substitutions wrong and it put us in an awkward position

The thing is the closer we got to the end of the match at 1-0 the more nerves were going to set in and the more they were going to throw everything at us, we'll never know what would have happened if he hadn't made the changes we only know he made them and we won.

 

[BillyShears]

But we should still be able to have an opinion on the game regardless of the result, my opinion is that every player was fantastic and Fernando had arguably his best game yet, so Pelle deserves credit for that, but i just think he got the substitutions wrong and it put us in an awkward position

You're being a bit blinkered if you think that people are telling you you can't have an opinion, discuss, analyse the game. That's what the forum's here for. However I think it should be tempered with the fact we won and for 70 minutes put in arguably our most complete performance of the season. There's two sides to the substitutions and there's enough people arguing the case for both sides to suggest there's some merit in both sides of the argument.

We won though so that makes the argument itself moot. Maybe people are being a little more forthright in their sticking up for the manager precisely for that reason.

Anyway. Time to move on. I'm sure there'll be plenty of new reasons to lambast Pellegrini after Wednesday night. ;)