Marc-Andre ter Stegen

[Phil1]

Imo Joe is a better keeper in almost every way

Unfortunately for Hart the almost part is a pretty big deal.

 

[Plain Speaking]

Out of interest how does Jack Butland fair and he's English

In PL 2015/16, according to Squawka, which seems much more detailed than whoscored, Butland had a distribution success of 56%, (average pass length of 46m), ie lower than Hart.

 

[Plain Speaking]

Unfortunately for Hart the almost part is a pretty big deal.

I believe Harts distribution success would improve massively if he reduced his passing length, see my earlier post.
I earlier said Lloris had the best distribution success of the PL keepers I looked at for last season. He also has the shortest average pass length, (38m), of those PL keepers analysed.

 

[lee_wsm]

Hart does always seem to try to play the long ball and fail to hit one of our own players

 

[Phil1]

I believe Harts distribution success would improve massively if he reduced his passing length, see my earlier post.
I earlier said Lloris had the best distribution success of the PL keepers I looked at for last season. He also has the shortest average pass length, (38m), of those PL keepers analysed.

I honestly think it's in his head - its a mental thing with Joe because he's never been expected to use the ball in this way. I don't think he's confident enough in game play to pick passes under pressure. His first thought is to get rid in the old school style of play. If this can be improved and he realizes that it's the way forward then there's a good chance he can remain our number one.
If not I expect him to be gone.

 

[bondsman]

What makes me chuckle is hart has consistently been one of our best players. He is a keeper so any error is critical but he rarely makes them in the big games. In Europe he has performed when nearly everyone else has gone missing including silva, aguero and yaya. The lad has a slight dip in form for England, not even for city, and people on here call for his replacement. The same folk stick up for the likes of nasri, bony, sterling and Fernando who have done fuck all except look average for city after costing millions and far more than joe. Fuck ter Stegen! Hart is behind de gea and neuer maybe but behind by very little in my eyes if at all.

 

[01cravend]

Players like Timo Horn or Sergio Rico could easily be moulded to play the pep way and probably at like a 1/4 of the price

Or if you want a goalkeeper purely for his distribution then look no further than Khune(South Africa's keeper) lol

 

[mosssideblue]

What makes me chuckle is hart has consistently been one of our best players. He is a keeper so any error is critical but he rarely makes them in the big games. In Europe he has performed when nearly everyone else has gone missing including silva, aguero and yaya. The lad has a slight dip in form for England, not even for city, and people on here call for his replacement. The same folk stick up for the likes of nasri, bony, sterling and Fernando who have done fuck all except look average for city after costing millions and far more than joe. Fuck ter Stegen! Hart is behind de gea and neuer maybe but behind by very little in my eyes if at all.

So what your saying is keep Joe and ignore pep's philosophy right?

 

[Phil1]

What makes me chuckle is hart has consistently been one of our best players. He is a keeper so any error is critical but he rarely makes them in the big games. In Europe he has performed when nearly everyone else has gone missing including silva, aguero and yaya. The lad has a slight dip in form for England, not even for city, and people on here call for his replacement. The same folk stick up for the likes of nasri, bony, sterling and Fernando who have done fuck all except look average for city after costing millions and far more than joe. Fuck ter Stegen! Hart is behind de gea and neuer maybe but behind by very little in my eyes if at all.

What makes me chuckle is people so blind to his flaws they make straw men arguments and generalisations which make them look daft.

 

[Plain Speaking]

I honestly think it's in his head - its a mental thing with Joe because he's never been expected to use the ball in this way. I don't think he's confident enough in game play to pick passes under pressure. His first thought is to get rid in the old school style of play. If this can be improved and he realizes that it's the way forward then there's a good chance he can remain our number one.
If not I expect him to be gone.

I suspect passing short goes against his entire goalkeeping coaching in England. How many times do we hear "don't mess about with it at the back, just get rid of it"? Sam Allardyce will have a similar approach. All the PL goalkeepers I looked at had an average pass length of at least 38m, so Hart is behaving normally, within the PL. Whether Pep will have to adapt his style to suit the fast pace of the PL remains to be seen. It is much hotter in Spain and therefore less closing down of keepers and defenders? In Germany he had Neuer, possibly the most gifted ballplaying keeper in the world?
Hart seems to be having a blip with his confidence, but I think we would regret rushing him out the door. I don't know if there are any proven better keepers out there who are available.