Sorry mate, I thought my irony was clear enough. ;-)
Had you followed my posts you knew that I like Joe as a nice lad but that I do see so many weak parts in his game that I am completely confused seeing so many guys on here who rate Joe as world class. He is not.
That's why I also said that it's more about loyalty or sentiment than about football knowledge from the view of the man in charge, Pep.
It's like a discussion between religion and science about life on earth. A compromise is impossible.