Marc Cucurella

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Doesn't say that to me. It says that Pep's trying things out — as is his wont in no-risk situations — for a scenario in which we have four players for two positions, one of whom can play in both of them. That's all I'd conclude, personally. Walker's as fit as a fiddle. There's no way he's suddenly going to become back-up to Cancelo. On the other hand, there's no way he's playing 50+ matches this coming season. No-one will.

Managing minutes. Walker played all the game on Thursday, Cancelo and JWE 45 mins each.

 

[richards30]

Doesn't say that to me. It says that Pep's trying things out — as is his wont in no-risk situations — for a scenario in which we have four players for two positions, one of whom can play in both of them. That's all I'd conclude, personally. Walker's as fit as a fiddle. There's no way he's suddenly going to become back-up to Cancelo. On the other hand, there's no way he's playing 50+ matches this coming season. No-one will.

All possible mate but I also don’t see a new £40-50m full back who is actually a proper left and would be our only first team one left out for big games??

 

[OccupiedPalestineBlues]

True, but there is a human factor here. Clubs don’t want to seen as a soft touch and players want to maximise their potential, their success and their earnings. As much as the negotiating parties want to pour all the entities into a graphical mathematical formulae and then hit the maxima it doesn’t always work like that.

Seen as a soft touch?
I’m guessing that’s a reference to market perception and that would obviously be included as a value in the clubs assessment rather than as a gut feeling ‘add on’ that pushes common sense to one side and allows childlike emotional urgency to take the reigns of commerce.

And maybe the John Wayne style ‘spit & shake’ nonsense does really exist in the Walt Disney madness that persists in the management of some very badly run clubs (Man Utd et al) but it would undoubtedly be seen as anathema at a well run club like City.

 

[p.taker]

What did thou left back from France that shall not be named cost?

 

[Lovebitesandeveryfing]

All possible mate but I also don’t see a new £40-50m full back who is actually a proper left and would be our only first team one left out for big games??

I entirely agree.

 

[JamieTartt]

We know it will take north of £50m (Naylor). We don’t know the exact price Bloom will accept. Nobody does.

Not even Bloom.

That’s how good he is.

 

[cjn]

Browsing transfermarket it does seem that 30m is a bit of a lowball. Aside from the two fullbacks that we paid 50m for Hakimi moved for 59m last summer, along with Chilwell for 45m, Wan-Bissaka for 49.5m and Ferland Mendy for 43m in previous seasons. 45-50m seems basically correct.

I’m not sure why Brighton would settle for less considering how much we’ve done in sales this summer and the fact that he’s obviously our first choice.

 

[Thenumber1blue]

Browsing transfermarket it does seem that 30m is a bit of a lowball. Aside from the two fullbacks that we paid 50m for Hakimi moved for 59m last summer, along with Chilwell for 45m, Wan-Bissaka for 49.5m and Ferland Mendy for 43m in previous seasons. 45-50m seems basically correct.

I’m not sure why Brighton would settle for less considering how much we’ve done in sales this summer and the fact that he’s obviously our first choice.

That's upto them, also what we offer is upto us

 

[Lovebitesandeveryfing]

What did thou left back from France that shall not be named cost?

Verily, I say unto ye, he costeth the kingdom of heaven and then some. And lo, he was smitten by the hand of the Lord, and fell among the lame and the crippled.

 

[cjn]

That's upto them, also what we offer is upto us

Well yeah, thanks for that.

 

[1961_vintage]

Verily, I say unto ye, he costeth the kingdom of heaven and then some. And he was smitten by the hand of the Lord, and fell among the lame and the crippled.

Ah fuckin men to that brother.

 

[nmc]

And then there's been players with proper hair, like Danny Mills.

Fact check… Danny Mills wasn’t a player… a parasite maybe? A twat most definitely.

 

[Dobsy]

Browsing transfermarket it does seem that 30m is a bit of a lowball. Aside from the two fullbacks that we paid 50m for Hakimi moved for 59m last summer, along with Chilwell for 45m, Wan-Bissaka for 49.5m and Ferland Mendy for 43m in previous seasons. 45-50m seems basically correct.

I’m not sure why Brighton would settle for less considering how much we’ve done in sales this summer and the fact that he’s obviously our first choice.

Agree that it's not exactly negotiation 101 is it. Good examples from the market there too. Maybe they think they can get the second choices for that and there's not much difference, I dunno.


A bit frustrating cos all the leaks in the press have been 'City don't want to pay more than £50m' and 'Brighton won't accept less than £50m' ... so it *seemed* simple but looks like it's gonna drag.

 

[nmc]

I believe he wants to join you. He will be very happy and all that. But he is not showing he is desperately unhappy to stay. People talk about player power, he isn't showing that yet.

Think that’s right… he’d probably prefer a move but he knows he may have to stay - he might be annoyed at some point that he’s been priced out of a move but I’m sure his agent will knock on Blooms door and ask for the wage of a £50m player rather than a £15m one.

 

[Whether or not]

I do find the fury and indignation of Brighton fans over this a bit odd. In the last couple of years BHAFC have had clubs coming and wanting to pay huge money for players, Arsenal, Spurs and now us. It is testament to how good the youth development and recruitment has been and the progress of the club. Sell or don’t, your choice, but take it as a compliment and settle down.

 

[anotherbrightonfan]

Peps already got his top 3 targets and only 1 was over 50mil. Englands current player of the year and arguably Leeds best player was 42 mil with 3 mil add ons, haaland was 51mil and alvarez was 14 mil all three are quality signing and represent good value. Pep is the best manager he will provide a list of 3-7 targets for each position and the board will do the best deal for the club and pep knows the club has done its best and work with what he has. As I said Cucurella could be worth 50mil to you but alot less to us its all about perspective.

Thats the thing Cucurella isn't about Value. Haaland you signed for his buy out clause, Leeds needed to sell. We don't need to sell.

I have seen that you are now open to selling Mcatee. We really wanted him and you turned down an 8M offer from us last year. I can see you slapping a £20m value on him (not a value signing then like Cucurella to you). I can see a deal evolving round them two where you sting us and we sting you.

On an aside I looked up the highest fee received for a player from a league 1 club. Depending on who you believe it seems to be £11m for Lookman from Charlton to Everton. You sold Bazunu for £15m to Southampton. The highest level he had played domestically was league 1. That Man City tax works both ways.

 

[cjn]

Agree that it's not exactly negotiation 101 is it. Good examples from the market there too. Maybe they think they can get the second choices for that and there's not much difference, I dunno.


A bit frustrating cos all the leaks in the press have been 'City don't want to pay more than £50m' and 'Brighton won't accept less than £50m' ... so it *seemed* simple but looks like it's gonna drag.

Right, or maybe they just want to keep the player and try and win some games. He's on a long deal and looks happy enough to me. Their valuation seems reasonable.

 

[Ric]

Thats the thing Cucurella isn't about Value. Haaland you signed for his buy out clause, Leeds needed to sell. We don't need to sell.

I have seen that you are now open to selling Mcatee. We really wanted him and you turned down an 8M offer from us last year. I can see you slapping a £20m value on him (not a value signing then like Cucurella to you). I can see a deal evolving round them two where you sting us and we sting you.

On an aside I looked up the highest fee received for a player from a league 1 club. Depending on who you believe it seems to be £11m for Lookman from Charlton to Everton. You sold Bazunu for £15m to Southampton. The highest level he had played domestically was league 1. That Man City tax works both ways.

We won't sell McAtee.

 

[anotherbrightonfan]

Think that’s right… he’d probably prefer a move but he knows he may have to stay - he might be annoyed at some point that he’s been priced out of a move but I’m sure his agent will knock on Blooms door and ask for the wage of a £50m player rather than a £15m one.

We are in negotiations for a new contract, so I would guess it has already started. We have been here before with Ben White. He stayed for another year and we got our fee.

 

[anotherbrightonfan]

We won't sell McAtee.

Thats not what is doing the rounds now. Funny how the player we wanted is suddenly open for offers, this could be the aving face part everyone talks about.