Marc Cucurella

[applejuice]

Portugal International. Several seasons played at Dortmund. Quite attacking not sure how good he is defensively. He is 27 or so though.

27 ... past full back sell by date.... Unless they are super proven stars. Would say Sosa if we shop in Germany.

 

[not my fault!]

I am suprised more contracts dont have thrse buyoit clauses. Out of intrest J H had a £100m buyout, how muvh do u think he is actually worth without the buy out?

City are not daft, the people we employ are not daft. We don't throw out numbers for the shits and giggles. If we genuinely offered £35m than our data and research has shown his worth is £35m. We tend to play fair and don't fuck about, it does neither of us any good by doing so.
If we up our bid it’ll be because we number crunched and determined his future value based on performances, trophies, etc etc and deem it a worthy risk ponying up the additional funds now knowing the future return covers it. Don’t forget we’ll take in to account his off the field value too, shirt sales, sponsorship, his ability to represent and shine for his country. All these things go in to the valuation, as I say it’s not just a number plucked out of thin air to try our luck.
As for JG, he’s not a £100m player by any means, but could be and the principle above is what prompted us to pay it. He will be a £100m player for us soon enough, quicker if we win another PL and the CL this season. You just have to look at how often JG is now in the papers or news, he wasn’t prior to joining City but he’s always in it now and it’s not Jack Grealish when they report, it’s “Manchester City’s £100m player Jack Grealish”. Look at the reception he got in American on our two game pre season.

 

[joshr]

The deal for Cucu is not dead yet. There will still be some negotiations. Hopefully his agent can pull off a masterclass.

yeah but you have to meet our valuation which I doubt will happen since Tony bloom plays poker and will stick to his valuation of cucurella

 

[balotellishaircut]

I am suprised more contracts dont have thrse buyoit clauses. Out of intrest J H had a £100m buyout, how muvh do u think he is actually worth without the buy out?

Think you mean J G, for me players are worth what the buying club is willing to pay within reason, then there’s a compromise to suit all parties.

 

[applejuice]

They dont otherwise they wouldn't be going for a lb would they? Pol ballus is saying we will turn to other options and on why always us this week he said it's not that they doubt JWE ability but the fact he's missed 2 of the last 3 seasons (ACL and hamstring surgery) with major injuries hardly makes for a reliable cover.

Agree with u.

And from what I saw in the friendly JWE's denfensive sense is far from what is required.

 

[joshr]

The news

City are not daft, the people we employ are not daft. We don't throw out numbers for the shits and giggles. If we genuinely offered £35m than our data and research has shown his worth is £35m. We tend to play fair and don't fuck about, it does neither of us any good by doing so.
If we up our bid it’ll be because we number crunched and determined his future value based on performances, trophies, etc etc and deem it a worthy risk ponying up the additional funds now knowing the future return covers it. Don’t forget we’ll take in to account his off the field value too, shirt sales, sponsorship, his ability to represent and shine for his country. All these things go in to the valuation, as I say it’s not just a number plucked out of thin air to try our luck.

I’m not sure £100m was the right valution for him but there are mistakes in the transfer market and it’s normal

 

[Agueroooo9320]

yeah but you have to meet our valuation which I doubt will happen since Tony bloom plays poker and will stick to his valuation of cucurella

lol

 

[Agueroooo9320]

The news

I’m not sure £100m was the right valution for him but there are mistakes in the transfer market and it’s normal

grealish is a superstar of english football and icon in english tv biz culture. cucu is nothing compared to that and hence why 40 mil valuation.

 

[not my fault!]

yeah but you have to meet our valuation which I doubt will happen since Tony bloom plays poker and will stick to his valuation of cucurella

Why are you all so convinced Bloom can out smart the Sheikh and powers that be at City? It’s not their first rodeo and wont be taken for mugs. It’ll cost you more in the long run if you fuck this up and we walk than it would us just paying the exaggerated valuation.

 

[TheRivet]

Why are you all so convinced Bloom can out smart the Sheikh and powers that be at City? It’s not their first rodeo and wont be taken for mugs. It’ll cost you more in the long run if you fuck this up and we walk than it would us just paying the exaggerated valuation.

Walk then.

 

[Agueroooo9320]

Why are you all so convinced Bloom can out smart the Sheikh and powers that be at City? It’s not their first rodeo and wont be taken for mugs. It’ll cost you more in the long run if you fuck this up and we walk than it would us just paying the exaggerated valuation.

their business reputation will take a hit. and also their reputation as a team for young talents to develop will take a more serious hit.

 

[not my fault!]

The news

I’m not sure £100m was the right valution for him but there are mistakes in the transfer market and it’s normal

But it wasn’t his valuation, it was his buy-out. That’s usually a crazy overinflated price you put in place to deter others from enquiring. In our case we number crunched and decided it was a valuation we would activate to serve our purpose.
He had a mixed bag first season but now Haaland is here I think he’ll shine this season and form a decent partnership. Add in Foden and KDB feeding him and thats a scary prospect for other teams to face. Not to mention our other top players, but JG will be a different player this year and may just justify that price tag.
However, Cucurella albeit a decent player for Brighton, is facing a different prospect if he comes to City. He’s currently decent but could be outstanding under Pep and that’s where you need to be careful. Ruin that chance for him to develop and play CL football and it could cost you much more long term.

 

[Asa's left peg]

Fair do's. Good luck for the season Brighton.
Who's next?

 

[not my fault!]

Walk then.

We will but clearly we think you’ll buckle… but to think we are not already in talks with other agents and players is crazy. Brighton are trying to play Billy big bollocks and it’ll bite you if we do walk, it’ll send a message to any potential signing who see’s you as a stepping stone (which you are) that you’ll hamper their progression and they’ll not sign for you. Buy letting him go and making a healthy profit at say £35-40m you win, they win and we win by filling a void.

 

[JewelZee]

You make some decent points mate, but it has to be said you have an eccentric relationship with punctuation that does make your stuff very difficult to read.

Which is a shame, as those who persevere through the impenetrable blocks of text with no coherent structure will I’m sure find it worth the effort.

Thanks for the feedback, genuinely. I'll see if posting in a more conventional style will help. Cheers!

 

[Gumzy97]

I just think we are coming to a point where release clauses will become a normal thing in contracts. It gives the player the power, of not staying at a club if their level is beyond that said club. also If they have bigger aspirations as a player than the club they are at.

 

[applejuice]

But it wasn’t his valuation, it was his buy-out. That’s usually a crazy overinflated price you put in place to deter others from enquiring. In our case we number crunched and decided it was a valuation we would activate to serve our purpose.
He had a mixed bag first season but now Haaland is here I think he’ll shine this season and form a decent partnership. Add in Foden and KDB feeding him and thats a scary prospect for other teams to face. Not to mention our other top players, but JG will be a different player this year and may just justify that price tag.
However, Cucurella albeit a decent player for Brighton, is facing a different prospect if he comes to City. He’s currently decent but could be outstanding under Pep and that’s where you need to be careful. Ruin that chance for him to develop and play CL football and it could cost you much more long term.

Unlike other crazy overinflated price buy out, 100M buy out was forced by Grealish's agent when he extended the contract in the summer of 2020. The price was overinflated but not crazy, perhaps 20-30M above. His previous contract would expire in 2022. Villa would be in a very weak position if Grealish did not extend the contract and went into the market in the summer of 2021. So in the end Villa accepted the release clause thinking no one would pay such amount given the covid situation.


Simply put - If Grealish did not extend the contract, he would be sold for less than 100M in 2021. If Grealish extended the contract without the release clause, he would never be sold by Villa....

 

[Exeter Blue I am here]

Not when you want something that's not yours...everything has a price...you may decide to pay what the owner desires. No one knows the asking price. You will get him I'm sure but don't always underestimate little clubs like Brighton. You may have Superior players but I know who I would back when it comes to picking a business fight with Bloom.

Exhausting bollocks

 

[joshr]

But it wasn’t his valuation, it was his buy-out. That’s usually a crazy overinflated price you put in place to deter others from enquiring. In our case we number crunched and decided it was a valuation we would activate to serve our purpose.
He had a mixed bag first season but now Haaland is here I think he’ll shine this season and form a decent partnership. Add in Foden and KDB feeding him and thats a scary prospect for other teams to face. Not to mention our other top players, but JG will be a different player this year and may just justify that price tag.
However, Cucurella albeit a decent player for Brighton, is facing a different prospect if he comes to City. He’s currently decent but could be outstanding under Pep and that’s where you need to be careful. Ruin that chance for him to develop and play CL football and it could cost you much more long term.

You valued him at £100m and therefore paid it ?
If you valued him less then you could of simply offered less ?

 

[Agueroooo9320]

You valued him at £100m and therefore paid it ?
If you valued him less then you could of simply offered less ?

city value grealish at 100 mil and cucurella at 40 mil. Is that clear enough for you?