Marcos Lopes

[NorthamptonBlue]

Hope he signs another contract, but realistically he may look at the club's definition of holistic with a large degree of scepticism - really amazed to see Scott Sinclair getting game/squad time ahead of EDS lads

I'm generally quite a calm watcher of football in recent years, something that came from the takeover and the understanding that long term we're going to be fine. But that was one moment where I totally lost my rag and blew up. We had EDS lads on the bench at (I recall perhaps badly) 4-1 up and he brought on Lampard with 25 minutes to go and Sinclair with 10 minutes to go. Made a post the same day on here suggesting that I was done with Pellegrini in terms of his youth development and will be branding that part of his job as a total failure from then on.

I shared that frustration,it was a perfect opportunity and he mysteriously chose to do different,a bit of a watershed in fact.

+1

 

[Manchester_lalala]

You really don't know if a player will make it at any club unless you give them game time over a long period of time, with this manager none of them have a cat in hells chance at making it here!!

If pellegrini got sacked, it would be interesting to see if the new manager gave the youth a chance. If we drop points tonight and chelsea win, I wouldn't mind seeing barker being put in the squad for the rest of the season. If he's a success then him and lopes could save us alot of money in the summer. You never know how good a young player is until he gets a run of games.

 

[BringBackSwales]

Lopes will not make it at City

does it help Ric if his "moderators" make outlandish statements that drives more responses, I assume more posts and responses means more advertising revenue? I was just wondering

 

[Neville Kneville]

I have no evidence, no facts and figures for either of you to mull over, it's just an opinion
I also don't think Pozo will make it here either

They are both good players but I really don't think they will make it here

I hope Barker will, I think Denayer might and have high hopes for Ambrose and Maffeo

Pozo i dont think will for physicality reasons. Slow and a bit weak - Lopes i think will for the exact opposite reason. He's strong, quick and Aguero-esque in build.

This.

Pozo has not been on quite the same level since he had those injuries & has a lot of work to do, not least because he is competing for attacking mid/striking roles in the next few seasons, with Lopes, Barker, Ambrose, Iheanacho, Boadu, Celina, Garcia maybe even Cole & Hiwula, before you mention, Aguero, Bony, Dzeko, Silva, Nasri etc.

Imo he is as good a footballer as any of those kids, but they are all physically better in one way or another. He needs to find that edge, to get back to the top of the list, which is where he was before he got injured imo.

 

[shroom]

Lille official twitter an hour ago, google translate - "To have received 3 yellow cards in less than 10 meetings @ Rony10Lopes was suspended one game. he will be missed"

 

[twosips]

I have no evidence, no facts and figures for either of you to mull over, it's just an opinion
I also don't think Pozo will make it here either

They are both good players but I really don't think they will make it here

I hope Barker will, I think Denayer might and have high hopes for Ambrose and Maffeo

Pozo i dont think will for physicality reasons. Slow and a bit weak - Lopes i think will for the exact opposite reason. He's strong, quick and Aguero-esque in build.

This.

Pozo has not been on quite the same level since he had those injuries & has a lot of work to do, not least because he is competing for attacking mid/striking roles in the next few seasons, with Lopes, Barker, Ambrose, Iheanacho, Boadu, Celina, Garcia maybe even Cole & Hiwula, before you mention, Aguero, Bony, Dzeko, Silva, Nasri etc.

Imo he is as good a footballer as any of those kids, but they are all physically better in one way or another. He needs to find that edge, to get back to the top of the list, which is where he was before he got injured imo.

Yeah, even someone like Celina who is only slight just seems stronger, and he's faster too. Nippy, darty little player. I don't worry about his physique (which is great news, as he's a fantastically talented footballer) whereas Pozo's I do. I'd say all of them have more of a chance than Pozo at this second.

 

[Neville Kneville]

Pozo i dont think will for physicality reasons. Slow and a bit weak - Lopes i think will for the exact opposite reason. He's strong, quick and Aguero-esque in build.

This.

Pozo has not been on quite the same level since he had those injuries & has a lot of work to do, not least because he is competing for attacking mid/striking roles in the next few seasons, with Lopes, Barker, Ambrose, Iheanacho, Boadu, Celina, Garcia maybe even Cole & Hiwula, before you mention, Aguero, Bony, Dzeko, Silva, Nasri etc.

Imo he is as good a footballer as any of those kids, but they are all physically better in one way or another. He needs to find that edge, to get back to the top of the list, which is where he was before he got injured imo.

Yeah, even someone like Celina who is only slight just seems stronger, and he's faster too. Nippy, darty little player. I don't worry about his physique (which is great news, as he's a fantastically talented footballer) whereas Pozo's I do. I'd say all of them have more of a chance than Pozo at this second.

It sometimes takes senior players a full year to get it back after long term injuries though. I't wouldn't surprise me if Pozo suddely jumped up a level, in every aspect.

 

[supercity88]

This.

Pozo has not been on quite the same level since he had those injuries & has a lot of work to do, not least because he is competing for attacking mid/striking roles in the next few seasons, with Lopes, Barker, Ambrose, Iheanacho, Boadu, Celina, Garcia maybe even Cole & Hiwula, before you mention, Aguero, Bony, Dzeko, Silva, Nasri etc.

Imo he is as good a footballer as any of those kids, but they are all physically better in one way or another. He needs to find that edge, to get back to the top of the list, which is where he was before he got injured imo.

Yeah, even someone like Celina who is only slight just seems stronger, and he's faster too. Nippy, darty little player. I don't worry about his physique (which is great news, as he's a fantastically talented footballer) whereas Pozo's I do. I'd say all of them have more of a chance than Pozo at this second.

It sometimes takes senior players a full year to get it back after long term injuries though. I't wouldn't surprise me if Pozo suddely jumped up a level, in every aspect.

Pozo was a stand out academy player not long ago and I think he's struggled recently. I still wonder why he's being played as a central striker in a 4-3-3 because he doesn't look like he wants that role. He does provide a goal threat from a no.10 role but physically he struggles when playing a lone striker role. From his games with the first team I would say he was more often that not looking to make runs that just weren't picked up. He wanted to drop deep to get on the ball and influence things and I don't think it's in his nature to be looking at taking the ball over the top. He's similar to Silva in that respect - he likes the ball to feet rather than in space for him to run into. The problem he has is that he now doesn't look the stand out player in the EDS, others have improved and look very good.

I agree that when he gets over his injury that should see him take a real leap and improve again and hopefully his confidence can come back and he can press on. He needs a spell out on loan for me to decide where his future lies.

Lopes looks to be a very good player and the loan has been a weird one. Their tactics are appalling and their inability to keep the ball means chances for him to show his worth are few and far between. He has kept at it though and in the biggest game so far for him he's been the star man and scored the winner. He's the sort of player we are desperate for at the club and I would like to see him involved in the first team squad but I would expect him to face another season on loan.

As for the future for our academy players... I can't see changing manager as being positive in this regard. Pellegrini has watched the players first hand and he will have a view on who is to be integrated. I share the concerns that players were not utilised in certain situations when they should have been but a new manager will have high targets and he will be unlikely to risk failure in hitting those targets by giving young players game time. It's a concern that we view things in black and white still... you can't win anything with kids seems to be City's way of thinking.

I see it as similar to England's pointless friendlies... how can you judge potential England players when they are thrown together into a makeshift side in a meaningless game. It is much better to play the core players like Hart, Kompany, Yaya, Silva, Aguero and then introduce young players around them. That gives them the opportunity to shine alongside our key players and gives you a better indication of how well they will do. I'd rather that than a complete "B" team which is likely to put in a shaky performance anyway.

 

[squirtyflower]

Lopes will not make it at City

does it help Ric if his "moderators" make outlandish statements that drives more responses, I assume more posts and responses means more advertising revenue? I was just wondering

firstly perhaps you could explain why "moderators" is in quotation marks without a quote?
secondly it is my opinion, not Ric's, that he will not make it
thirdly i went on to explain why in the post above when asked, however you chose to ignore that in order to have a cheap shot at my status rather than my post
lastly, the third point doesn't surprise me in the least

 

[Centurions]

Yeah, even someone like Celina who is only slight just seems stronger, and he's faster too. Nippy, darty little player. I don't worry about his physique (which is great news, as he's a fantastically talented footballer) whereas Pozo's I do. I'd say all of them have more of a chance than Pozo at this second.

It sometimes takes senior players a full year to get it back after long term injuries though. I't wouldn't surprise me if Pozo suddely jumped up a level, in every aspect.

Pozo was a stand out academy player not long ago and I think he's struggled recently. I still wonder why he's being played as a central striker in a 4-3-3 because he doesn't look like he wants that role. He does provide a goal threat from a no.10 role but physically he struggles when playing a lone striker role. From his games with the first team I would say he was more often that not looking to make runs that just weren't picked up. He wanted to drop deep to get on the ball and influence things and I don't think it's in his nature to be looking at taking the ball over the top. He's similar to Silva in that respect - he likes the ball to feet rather than in space for him to run into. The problem he has is that he now doesn't look the stand out player in the EDS, others have improved and look very good.

I agree that when he gets over his injury that should see him take a real leap and improve again and hopefully his confidence can come back and he can press on. He needs a spell out on loan for me to decide where his future lies.

Lopes looks to be a very good player and the loan has been a weird one. Their tactics are appalling and their inability to keep the ball means chances for him to show his worth are few and far between. He has kept at it though and in the biggest game so far for him he's been the star man and scored the winner. He's the sort of player we are desperate for at the club and I would like to see him involved in the first team squad but I would expect him to face another season on loan.

As for the future for our academy players... I can't see changing manager as being positive in this regard. Pellegrini has watched the players first hand and he will have a view on who is to be integrated. I share the concerns that players were not utilised in certain situations when they should have been but a new manager will have high targets and he will be unlikely to risk failure in hitting those targets by giving young players game time. It's a concern that we view things in black and white still... you can't win anything with kids seems to be City's way of thinking.

I see it as similar to England's pointless friendlies... how can you judge potential England players when they are thrown together into a makeshift side in a meaningless game. It is much better to play the core players like Hart, Kompany, Yaya, Silva, Aguero and then introduce young players around them. That gives them the opportunity to shine alongside our key players and gives you a better indication of how well they will do. I'd rather that than a complete "B" team which is likely to put in a shaky performance anyway.

Good post, I agree with all of that.
Next season looks a good time to bring Lopes into the first team squad and put Pozo out to Lille perhaps. It's getting close to sink or swim time for him and giving him the playmaker roll at Lille will test him.

 

[sam-caddick]

Lille are on ESPN on Sunday, 4pm.

Hopefully Marcos can impress again!

 

[squirtyflower]

Lille are on ESPN on Sunday, 4pm.

Hopefully Marcos can impress again!

I'll watch it and see if I have my mind changed

 

[carlos tevez is a blue]

Lille are on ESPN on Sunday, 4pm.

Hopefully Marcos can impress again!

I'll watch it and see if I have my mind changed

You won't see Lopes. He's suspended.

 

[sam-caddick]

Lille are on ESPN on Sunday, 4pm.

Hopefully Marcos can impress again!

I'll watch it and see if I have my mind changed

You won't see Lopes. He's suspended.

why?

 

[cleavers]

I've removed the discussion about Adam Johnson, so can we try and stay on topic, if you want to discuss Adam Johnson there is a thread in the general forum.

Thanks

 

[SlimShadyRus]

I've removed the discussion about Adam Johnson, so can we try and stay on topic, if you want to discuss Adam Johnson there is a thread in the general forum.

Thanks

Ok, that's fair. Although I don't see my post there...

On topic. Why does Lopes have only 1 game for u21's? Is it due to his injury(ies)? And when do you think, he will make his debut for the senior national team?

 

[Centurions]

I've removed the discussion about Adam Johnson, so can we try and stay on topic, if you want to discuss Adam Johnson there is a thread in the general forum.

Thanks

Ok, that's fair. Although I don't see my post there...

On topic. Why does Lopes have only 1 game for u21's? Is it due to his injury(ies)? And when do you think, he will make his debut for the senior national team?

He only turned 19 just over 2 months ago, give him a chance.

 

[twosips]

I've removed the discussion about Adam Johnson, so can we try and stay on topic, if you want to discuss Adam Johnson there is a thread in the general forum.

Thanks

Ok, that's fair. Although I don't see my post there...

On topic. Why does Lopes have only 1 game for u21's? Is it due to his injury(ies)? And when do you think, he will make his debut for the senior national team?

He played in the u20 european championships for Portugal and by all accounts was one of the best players in tournament.

 

[SlimShadyRus]

I've removed the discussion about Adam Johnson, so can we try and stay on topic, if you want to discuss Adam Johnson there is a thread in the general forum.

Thanks

Ok, that's fair. Although I don't see my post there...

On topic. Why does Lopes have only 1 game for u21's? Is it due to his injury(ies)? And when do you think, he will make his debut for the senior national team?

He played in the u20 european championships for Portugal and by all accounts was one of the best players in tournament.

You mean u19? But it was in summer

@CollinLee Conversely, I mean that he's definetely good enough for their u21 and was wondering why he has only 1 call-up to the u21.

 

[Centurions]

Ok, that's fair. Although I don't see my post there...

On topic. Why does Lopes have only 1 game for u21's? Is it due to his injury(ies)? And when do you think, he will make his debut for the senior national team?

He played in the u20 european championships for Portugal and by all accounts was one of the best players in tournament.

You mean u19? But it was in summer

@CollinLee Conversely, I mean that he's definetely good enough for their u21 and was wondering why he has only 1 call-up to the u21.

Do you watch a lot of the Portugese U21's? I haven't so have no idea of who's in front of him, are they any good then?