Marcus Rashford lobbying govt to help vulnerable children

GoatersLeftShin said:
What I don't get is why the Government gave Rashford an MBE - presumably for his campaigning - then voted against what he was trying to do! It defies any kind of logic.
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See also Captain Tom. Give him a knighthood for raising money for an institution that they've spent 10 years chronically underfunding. Because awards make people think they are listening without them having to actually do anything to address the issue.
 
Every respect for what Marcus Rashford is doing, and i really hope that he can make a difference ..... it couldn't have been easy for him and his family living in Wythenshawe, but the guy's got a heart of gold., and deserves every credit for his efforts in trying to help the kids who are sufferingi in poverty.
 
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Blue Mist said:
OK I am one of those with half a brain. We as a nation now seem to think it is a right that schools provide breakfast and diner for any/every child every single day of the year. Why not tea as well ? and all paid for by the Government/taxpayer.
It is the job of schools to educate children not feed them.
If a child is missing 2 meals a day then the family he is from are having bigger problems than missing breakfast.
Every supermarket has a box by the door where free food is donated, every town/City have food banks. Are we saying the parents wont use these or is it they cant be arsed preparing a meal (2) for their child.
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Kids should be in school imo between 8-5:30 allowing parents to work, during these hours they should be being taught the basics regarding food from learning to cook good nutritious food, learning how to grow vegetables and they should also be going a lot more physical activity during the day. This in the long run will save billions of pounds per year for the health service, can be funded by initiatives and using school leavers who go into college etc for sports science degrees and chef courses.
Ideology, probably, but we need to
a) look after the long term future of kids and
b) find ways of saving billions of pounds to ease the pain for future generations.
The fact this government during the worst crisis since the second world war would let children go hungry is nothing short of a national disgrace and they should, but won’t, hang their collective heads in shame. It’s never ever the child’s fault if he’s fed a shite diet, causing issues like adhd, or not fed at all.
 
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Excuse the ignorance. The petition. Once it’s reached the 100,000 required to make it discussed in parliament, does it add weight to have more signing it is it irrelevant?

Allegiances set aside on this one. Fair play to the boy
 
johnmc said:
Excuse the ignorance. The petition. Once it’s reached the 100,000 required to make it discussed in parliament, does it add weight to have more signing it is it irrelevant?

Allegiances set aside on this one. Fair play to the boy
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Not sure which petition you mean, but given there was a parliamentary vote this week then presumably any subsequent petitions now are effectively meaningless.

The Tories whipped their MPs to vote against feeding hungry children though. I hope no one forgets this.
 
Blue Mist said:
Why make it political or have you just decided I am a Tory ?
Do you think it is acceptable that children are in a position of near starvation and the answer is to get the schools to feed them ?
Poverty needs to be tackled but it is not solved by free school breakfasts. That is a silly, simplistic answer. If the children are missing out on 2 of their three meals a day there is something very wrong with their home life and that is what needs addressing.
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People wouldn’t think twice about trying to eradicate poverty in Africa yet someone wants to feed kids in the UK.... fuck me I'm either getting really soft in my old age or there are some real cunts about.
 
inchy14 said:
Kids should be in school imo between 8-5:30 allowing parents to work, during these hours they should be being taught the basics regarding food from learning to cook good nutritious food, learning how to grow vegetables and they should also be going a lot more physical activity during the day. This in the long run will save billions of pounds per year for the health service, can be funded by initiatives and using school leavers who go into college etc for sports science degrees and chef courses.
Ideology, probably, but we need to
a) look after the long term future of kids and
b) find ways of saving billions of pounds to ease the pain for future generations.
The fact this government during the worst crisis since the second world war would let children go hungry is nothing short of a national disgrace and they should, but won’t, hang their collective heads in shame. It’s never ever the child’s fault if he’s fed a shite diet, causing issues like adhd, or not fed at all.
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That makes far too much sense to ever be acted upon by a Government.
 
inchy14 said:
Kids should be in school imo between 8-5:30 allowing parents to work, during these hours they should be being taught the basics regarding food from learning to cook good nutritious food, learning how to grow vegetables and they should also be going a lot more physical activity during the day. This in the long run will save billions of pounds per year for the health service, can be funded by initiatives and using school leavers who go into college etc for sports science degrees and chef courses.
Ideology, probably, but we need to
a) look after the long term future of kids and
b) find ways of saving billions of pounds to ease the pain for future generations.
The fact this government during the worst crisis since the second world war would let children go hungry is nothing short of a national disgrace and they should, but won’t, hang their collective heads in shame. It’s never ever the child’s fault if he’s fed a shite diet, causing issues like adhd, or not fed at all.
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Great post.
Politics aside, we have an obligation to look after our nations children.
It's 2020 not 1820 ffs. As someone rightly pointed out in this thread, it's not the schools job to feed these kids. Maybe not, but it"s not a "job" is it? These kids are not getting fed properly at home, for many complex and varied reasons.
The cost for doing this is a drop in the ocean, if it costs me a few quid a year in tax, I'm more than happy to pay it.
I'd like to see better education in schools regarding home economics etc, but it aint happening. Even Jamie oliver was scorned for trying to educate parents in nutrition.
Whatever, it's not the kids fault. Feed them. Simple
 
If a child is unable to be fed while at school because of their home situation then why would people believe that the week(s) they are off then money will suddenly appear to feed them that week.


Why we don't have a food stamp system for very low income families to use throughout the as part of our welfare packages I don't know.


To say we will only feed them if they go to school/college is a failiure, and as someone who works in educational catering, I deal with FSM daily and the amount they get on a bursary and who qualifies under gov rules is not substabtial.

Added that some of those I deal with are coming from very poor homes and yes the meal they get in college is their main or only one of the day.

Rashford has rightly pointed out something that should have been discussed by our politicians years ago, it shouldn't have taken a pandemic to bring this subject to the fore
 
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My wife works in a very deprived school in North Manchester. Some of the stories she tells me are heartbreaking. Two single parents she knows can’t afford the bus fare to school at the moment and struggle to feed their kids. One family are in emergency shelter accommodation and living in an attic. Many people including myself have no idea what life is like for many people in this country.
 
inchy14 said:
People wouldn’t think twice about trying to eradicate poverty in Africa yet someone wants to feed kids in the UK.... fuck me I'm either getting really soft in my old age or there are some real cunts about.
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There are some real cunts on here.
 
urban genie said:
If a child is unable to be fed while at school because of their home situation then why would people believe that the week(s) they are off then money will suddenly appear to feed them that week.


Why we don't have a food stamp system for very low income families to use throughout the as part of our welfare packages I don't know.


To say we will only feed them if they go to school/college is a failiure, and as someone who works in educational catering, I deal with FSM daily and the amount they get on a bursary and who qualifies under gov rules is not substabtial.

Added that some of those I deal with are coming from very poor homes and yes the meal they get in college is their main or only one of the day.

Rashford has rightly pointed out something that should have been discussed by our politicians years ago, it shouldn't have taken a pandemic to bring this subject to the fore
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The more I think about this the more I think it is the right thing to do.
Can’t believe Conservative party/government has scored such a big own Goal.
 
BillyShears said:
The whole "it's not schools responsibility to feed hungry children" is such a strange hill to die on. The very fact that as a human being you aren't arsed about the hungry child, but are arsed about who provides their food, speaks to a very warped view of the world. One which contributes to the mess we're currently in.
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I think you have to split your thought process into
1 should we be responsible to feed other people’s kids (for whatever reason)?
2 should we let kids go hungry in this country in 2020?
Then item 1 becomes irrelevant regardless of the answer as the answer to item 2 is clearly NO
 
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