Mario, time to say goodbye?

BillyMC said:
Its not people wanting him to go, but if he cant control his actions on the pitch there is little choice in the matter. Everyone agrees he's a special talent when he wants to be, but if he is going to miss 10 games every year becuase of silly fouls what do City do. This is what the OP is getting at. For the greater good of the team either he changes his attitude or he has to go??

I think people get what you're saying and THD, but don't reach the same conclusion. Mario is up against it from all angles for sure...some self imposed, much of it media hysteria. Strip away the media hysteria and what's left are a few indisretions, more than compensated for by brilliant play.

For me, he is in credit as far as brilliant play is concerned.

Is he showing an upward trajectory of better discipline on the pitch? Yes, I think he is.

If this continued, could he be one of the best players in the world? Yes.

Is he one of the most exciting and entertaining talents in world football? Yes.

Conclusion: We must keep him.

What of the media?

Are they hurting our image (abeit with some help from Mario)? Yes.

Do they want City to do well? No

Conclusion: We cannot react to media bias.

What of the FA authorities?

Are they singling Mario out for special attention? Yes
Will this continue? Probably
Can this be mitigated? Yes...improve Mario's discipline and awareness further. Experience will help him.

Overall conclusion: Keep him as a footballer, support him through the media hypocricy....and Manchester is better than Naples.
 
Dave S said:
johnmc said:
Keep him - he is getting better. He is starting to work a bit harder. He is creating a legend and he is enhancing our profile. People in america who last year had only heard of the rags now have heard about City and this crazy Mario guy.

It will be a bumpy ride but he's Mario, he's ours, we are making him and he is helping us go global.
Yes but for all the wrong reasons!

Not always - and as the old adage goes it is better to be talked about than not talked about.

Some of the storys falsely attributed to him make him a modern day Robin Hood so not always bad.
 
BillyMC said:
samharris said:
BillyMC said:
By that logic I should stick up for Carlos Tevez? Or just the ones that suit me?

Tevez is a grown man and a **** to boot...Mario is Mario Good days and bad days...

Tell that to the people who slaughtered Savic the other day...not quite as fashionable as Mario?

More like not quite as talented as Mario. If savic behaved like Mario he wouldn't be worth the hassle. Mario undoubtedly is despite what a few knee jerkers might think
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
Aphex said:
tolmie's hairdoo said:
You don't get it, do you?

It's a hypothetical thread about what is best for not just us, but Mario also.

A myth has been perpetuated, to a degree, and can be reflected in the unwarranted yellow cards.

All the same, propoganda is bullshit. He's kicked someone in the fucking head and has let himself and the team down AGAIN.

Regadless of intent, he had previous for it, and that's proved his undoing this time.

His reputation, forged to a large degree by himself, is the reason he has become an easy target.

Difference is, sadly, I think the lad will never be able to realise it in this country.

It's gone too far.

So my hypothetical analysis of him is moot?

Most people on this thread also disagree with your opinion, do they not get it also?


No they don't, clearly.

The post isn't about the analysis of Mario as a player, his qualities etc. The op is even caveated to acknowledge my own personal appreciation for him.

It's about never being able to counter his reputation going before him, and how it will affect both City and him in the future.

Hence, throwing the question out about what should we do, including a hypothesis of an acutal sale.

In posters' rush to defend Mario, all very commendable and expected, the thread quickly moved away from the original premise/argument.

It's your argument, but you have left it open to an awful lot of interpretation

By the way, why are you talking about yourself in the third person...? :)
 
wireblue said:
tolmie's hairdoo said:
Take the intent out of the kick against Parker.

Someone care to enlighten how Mario continues to go out on to the field of play and avoid being pre-judged, on past rep?

He can't. Which will only continue to hurt the team.

As I said in a previous post. We highlight this as much as possible. The media by its very nature will always turn opinion on its axis and look for other viewpoints. There is currently a media frenzy so we should use it to our advantage – tell the footballing nation that we feel Mario is being victimised for tackles/incidents that other players have got away with. Put it out there while the iron is hot. That way people will be looking for any inconsistencies and persecution of balotelli – and in my opinion referees will think much more carefully about whether an incident involving balotelli actually justifies a card because they know the nation will be watching.
Give him a boll*cking behind the scenes by all means but in public we back him to the hilt


It's a dangerous road the one you suggest, mate, especially at this stage in the run in.

It has similar hallmarks to Benitez during the title challenge a couple years back when he got his list out and compared stats with United.

It was embarrassing.

Canvass the FA and Refs association in private, sure, for all the good it will do.

Balotelli CAN'T WIN. Any referee who misses an incident, will cover their arse regardless.
 
RodneysMarsh said:
BillyMC said:
Its not people wanting him to go, but if he cant control his actions on the pitch there is little choice in the matter. Everyone agrees he's a special talent when he wants to be, but if he is going to miss 10 games every year becuase of silly fouls what do City do. This is what the OP is getting at. For the greater good of the team either he changes his attitude or he has to go??

I think people get what you're saying and THD, but don't reach the same conclusion. Mario is up against it from all angles for sure...some self imposed, much of it media hysteria. Strip away the media hysteria and what's left are a few indisretions, more than compensated for by brilliant play.

For me, he is in credit as far as brilliant play is concerned.

Is he showing an upward trajectory of better discipline on the pitch? Yes, I think he is.

If this continued, could he be one of the best players in the world? Yes.

Is he one of the most exciting and entertaining talents in world football? Yes.

Conclusion: We must keep him.

What of the media?

Are they hurting our image (abeit with some help from Mario)? Yes.

Do they want City to do well? No

Conclusion: We cannot react to media bias.

What of the FA authorities?

Are they singling Mario out for special attention? Yes
Will this continue? Probably
Can this be mitigated? Yes...improve Mario's discipline and awareness further. Experience will help him.

Overall conclusion: Keep him as a footballer, support him through the media hypocricy....and Manchester is better than Naples.

You've nailed it mate.
 
My thoughts on seeing this thread

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Didsbury Dave said:
The big problem as I see it is that we are not seeing significant improvement. He is not showing an ability to learn or improve. When he joined he was a young player with an attitude problem which needed solving. He's still a young player but his attitude problem is still there. A point comes where you have to decide that the negatives are not going away. He gets that many cards and suspensions that, as it stands, he is ultimately a liability.

Last chance saloon, get rid in summer if there is any repeat.


i think he`s improve in every department.

and using this criteria would you if you were the rags sell wayne rooney
 

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