ACMilan said:Need to set a few things straight, since I see some uncontrollable bias going down.
a) According to ESPN average attendance rates for City v Milan in 2012/13 are:
City - 46,,964
Milan - 45,974
So why is it Milan/Mario are "playing infront of an empty stadium"?
Answer: They're not - They just have an incredibly large stadium, far too big for what they need. So ya, seats are empty, but attendance wise... No.
b) Serie A is in 'decline'
In the past 10 years, Italy has 3 Champions League Winners..
In the past 5 years, MORE Italian teams have 'gained ground' on the top clubs in Italy... Fiorentina, Udinese, Napoli, Roma, Lazio... This creates MORE parity, and in my opinion, a much BETTER league.
Serie A boasts some FANTASTIC players... is a hot bed for serious youth products. Is it LOADED with all the greatest like it used to be? No. Financially, it isn't feasible anymore. But there are still loads of youth products here... Both international, but more importantly.. Local product. The on field product is fantastic to watch. Defensively, it is still tactically sound, but has become more offensive as well. This is a welcome change imo. Gone are the days of Nesta, Maldini, Baresi... But that's the nature of the game.. Those defenders dont exist anymore, PERIOD.
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Every "fan" thinks their league rains supreme. I think Serie A is an unquestionable top league. EPL fans believe the same about theirs, as to La Liga fans, and Bundesliga's.
And most fans who can't take their "blinders" off will shit all over other leagues.Example: EPL is a joke to many foreigners. A joke league with joke defending and foreign owned oil funded teams. Me, I see the positives in the EPL. great players, great prospects, great spending power, great excitement. I get it, a top flight league.
I just personally feel that those who say Serie A is no longer a top flight league and in serious decline are just shrouded in bias, disdain for Italy, or simply dont watch the league.
But enough of that for now.
Cheers
Like ive said, ive been watching serie a for a long long time. There is a clear difference in italian football to that what it used to be, imo its going to be to the national teams overall benefit with the likes of el shawaary getting a look in and even giovinco getting to comeback to juve. But the league isnt the powerhouse it used to be, the overall standard of football is nowhere near the level it was even 5yrs ago. Im not shitting on serie a, like i say ive long been a fan, but declining attendances and other factors have taken some of the shine off what used to be the best league in the world.ACMilan said:Skashion said:Please keep posting. You're an excellent poster.
Cheers, mate.
Just hate seeing my league, which has produced some of the best moments and teams in history get shit upon for bogus reasons. It's a fantastic league to watch and the parity truly makes it a toss up as to who wins, who squeeks into european spots etc.
I love it... I know there are faults and negatives in Serie A... I respect that. But EVERY league has issues and sloppy areas. Nature of the beast
ACMilan said:cookster said:ACMilan said:Cheers, mate.
Just hate seeing my league, which has produced some of the best moments and teams in history get shit upon for bogus reasons. It's a fantastic league to watch and the parity truly makes it a toss up as to who wins, who squeeks into european spots etc.
I love it... I know there are faults and negatives in Serie A... I respect that. But EVERY league has issues and sloppy areas. Nature of the beast
Berlusconi and corruption..........
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Haha except you presumed english wasnt his first language, which he has confirmed it is ;-)Josh Blue said:ACMilan said:Need to set a few things straight, since I see some uncontrollable bias going down.
a) According to ESPN average attendance rates for City v Milan in 2012/13 are:
City - 46,,964
Milan - 45,974
So why is it Milan/Mario are "playing infront of an empty stadium"?
Answer: They're not - They just have an incredibly large stadium, far too big for what they need. So ya, seats are empty, but attendance wise... No.
b) Serie A is in 'decline'
In the past 10 years, Italy has 3 Champions League Winners..
In the past 5 years, MORE Italian teams have 'gained ground' on the top clubs in Italy... Fiorentina, Udinese, Napoli, Roma, Lazio... This creates MORE parity, and in my opinion, a much BETTER league.
Serie A boasts some FANTASTIC players... is a hot bed for serious youth products. Is it LOADED with all the greatest like it used to be? No. Financially, it isn't feasible anymore. But there are still loads of youth products here... Both international, but more importantly.. Local product. The on field product is fantastic to watch. Defensively, it is still tactically sound, but has become more offensive as well. This is a welcome change imo. Gone are the days of Nesta, Maldini, Baresi... But that's the nature of the game.. Those defenders dont exist anymore, PERIOD.
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Every "fan" thinks their league rains supreme. I think Serie A is an unquestionable top league. EPL fans believe the same about theirs, as to La Liga fans, and Bundesliga's.
And most fans who can't take their "blinders" off will shit all over other leagues.Example: EPL is a joke to many foreigners. A joke league with joke defending and foreign owned oil funded teams. Me, I see the positives in the EPL. great players, great prospects, great spending power, great excitement. I get it, a top flight league.
I just personally feel that those who say Serie A is no longer a top flight league and in serious decline are just shrouded in bias, disdain for Italy, or simply dont watch the league.
But enough of that for now.
Cheers
One of the best constructed posts I have seen on Bluemoon and I presume it isn't in your first language either!!!
Great points and well made, don't worry mate we aren't all ignorant and arrogant arseholes over here.
Josh Blue said:ACMilan said:Need to set a few things straight, since I see some uncontrollable bias going down.
a) According to ESPN average attendance rates for City v Milan in 2012/13 are:
City - 46,,964
Milan - 45,974
So why is it Milan/Mario are "playing infront of an empty stadium"?
Answer: They're not - They just have an incredibly large stadium, far too big for what they need. So ya, seats are empty, but attendance wise... No.
b) Serie A is in 'decline'
In the past 10 years, Italy has 3 Champions League Winners..
In the past 5 years, MORE Italian teams have 'gained ground' on the top clubs in Italy... Fiorentina, Udinese, Napoli, Roma, Lazio... This creates MORE parity, and in my opinion, a much BETTER league.
Serie A boasts some FANTASTIC players... is a hot bed for serious youth products. Is it LOADED with all the greatest like it used to be? No. Financially, it isn't feasible anymore. But there are still loads of youth products here... Both international, but more importantly.. Local product. The on field product is fantastic to watch. Defensively, it is still tactically sound, but has become more offensive as well. This is a welcome change imo. Gone are the days of Nesta, Maldini, Baresi... But that's the nature of the game.. Those defenders dont exist anymore, PERIOD.
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Every "fan" thinks their league rains supreme. I think Serie A is an unquestionable top league. EPL fans believe the same about theirs, as to La Liga fans, and Bundesliga's.
And most fans who can't take their "blinders" off will shit all over other leagues.Example: EPL is a joke to many foreigners. A joke league with joke defending and foreign owned oil funded teams. Me, I see the positives in the EPL. great players, great prospects, great spending power, great excitement. I get it, a top flight league.
I just personally feel that those who say Serie A is no longer a top flight league and in serious decline are just shrouded in bias, disdain for Italy, or simply dont watch the league.
But enough of that for now.
Cheers
One of the best constructed posts I have seen on Bluemoon and I presume it isn't in your first language either!!!
Great points and well made, don't worry mate we aren't all ignorant and arrogant arseholes over here.
I agree,very good English for a Canadian.Josh Blue said:ACMilan said:Need to set a few things straight, since I see some uncontrollable bias going down.
a) According to ESPN average attendance rates for City v Milan in 2012/13 are:
City - 46,,964
Milan - 45,974
So why is it Milan/Mario are "playing infront of an empty stadium"?
Answer: They're not - They just have an incredibly large stadium, far too big for what they need. So ya, seats are empty, but attendance wise... No.
b) Serie A is in 'decline'
In the past 10 years, Italy has 3 Champions League Winners..
In the past 5 years, MORE Italian teams have 'gained ground' on the top clubs in Italy... Fiorentina, Udinese, Napoli, Roma, Lazio... This creates MORE parity, and in my opinion, a much BETTER league.
Serie A boasts some FANTASTIC players... is a hot bed for serious youth products. Is it LOADED with all the greatest like it used to be? No. Financially, it isn't feasible anymore. But there are still loads of youth products here... Both international, but more importantly.. Local product. The on field product is fantastic to watch. Defensively, it is still tactically sound, but has become more offensive as well. This is a welcome change imo. Gone are the days of Nesta, Maldini, Baresi... But that's the nature of the game.. Those defenders dont exist anymore, PERIOD.
------
Every "fan" thinks their league rains supreme. I think Serie A is an unquestionable top league. EPL fans believe the same about theirs, as to La Liga fans, and Bundesliga's.
And most fans who can't take their "blinders" off will shit all over other leagues.Example: EPL is a joke to many foreigners. A joke league with joke defending and foreign owned oil funded teams. Me, I see the positives in the EPL. great players, great prospects, great spending power, great excitement. I get it, a top flight league.
I just personally feel that those who say Serie A is no longer a top flight league and in serious decline are just shrouded in bias, disdain for Italy, or simply dont watch the league.
But enough of that for now.
Cheers
One of the best constructed posts I have seen on Bluemoon and I presume it isn't in your first language either!!!
Great points and well made, don't worry mate we aren't all ignorant and arrogant arseholes over here.
shevtheblue said:Like ive said, ive been watching serie a for a long long time. There is a clear difference in italian football to that what it used to be, imo its going to be to the national teams overall benefit with the likes of el shawaary getting a look in and even giovinco getting to comeback to juve. But the league isnt the powerhouse it used to be, the overall standard of football is nowhere near the level it was even 5yrs ago. Im not shitting on serie a, like i say ive long been a fan, but declining attendances and other factors have taken some of the shine off what used to be the best league in the world.
Give over,it was only a gentle jape. I too happen to have noticed he's a decent poster.Skashion said:Canadians don't speak English eh?
Skashion said:Canadians don't speak English eh?