Martin Demichelis

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Judge Roughneck said:
Regardless of what Alan F Hansen says.. I was concerned during the Norwich game at how much MD gave the ball away under little pressure. I don't expect him to be perfect for 4 million but you give the ball away behind your midfield and they can't help you, and you're in serious danger of being punished. Although Lescott looks like he's playing in syrup and invariably passes back at least we retain possession. For me Lescott should start in front of DM.
Fantastic reasoning there! Let's judge him on making 3 terrible passes in his 2nd game back against Norrich. And then deem him inferior. But how about we examine the whole fact.

Pass Accuracy
Lescott 88.2
Demichelis: 89.5

As it turns out, even with the syrup like back passes by Lescott, and the gaffe passes by MDM in his first 2 games with us, as it turns out, MDM still keeps possession at a higher rate than Lescott. So much for the silly argument that he gives up the ball too often.

Average passes per game
MDM 56.1
Lesscott 48.6

As it turns out, MDM in spite of more forward passes, more possession play and more incisive attack staring plays, still gives up possession less than Lescott.

Oh just for good measure, outside of City's goalies (Hart and Pants) MDM is the only other player this season that is yet to be dispossessed of he ball while on it. Not only is he good going forward with the ball, he is extremely intelligent and safe with it.

As for turnovers, I.e his balls being intercepted by the opposition, only Garicia has a lower rate of turnovers
At 0.2 he passes to the opposition less often than Lescott or any of our other defenders do.

In short, statistically speaking, he dwarfs Lescott in every significant category.
Better passer, better in possession, better starting attacks, more tackles won, more interceptions made, more touches on the ball per game, better passing decisions with the ball, better pass completion rates, won more offsides per game, better at reading the game, better in the air, loses possession less, better set piece threat.

In short he is a better footballer than Lescott in Every Sense of the word. The stats are not lying. You are watching a superior footballer in MDM. And when Nasty returns, MDM will probably start in all the big games.

Oh and for good measure, he is rated as our best defender this season. This is not a fluke. He has been playing that well, while many continue to nitpick at his mistakes from 2 months ago.

Sorry, MDM starts every game if available.
 
Great post and highlights the folly of Hansons analysis.

The above said, and irrespective of the stats, which on the face of it seem impressive for MDM, when fit, I would pick Nastasic and Kompany as our first choice pairing every time. MDM is a great player to have as back up but Nasty is the long term future.
 
Pleased with MDM - tackles well, reads game well, threat at set pieces. Bona fide short term solution. Could see him doing well at DM in a lesser game if resting Fernandinho or Yaya.
 
Mr. Aguia said:
The guy is 33 years old. Has played for big teams. How long should he be given?

But when our LB's have been poor, and both our RB's are injured we can't patiently wait around for a very experienced player to "settle in".
He settled in weeks ago if you'd watched him, playing fine for me, but I don't listen to a has been like Hansen, I judge him on watching him play.
 
Saw him in the Trafford Centre yesterday Christmas shopping. My son had his photo taken with him. Sees a decent guy.

Just saying!
 
cleavers said:
Mr. Aguia said:
The guy is 33 years old. Has played for big teams. How long should he be given?

But when our LB's have been poor, and both our RB's are injured we can't patiently wait around for a very experienced player to "settle in".
He settled in weeks ago if you'd watched him, playing fine for me, but I don't listen to a has been like Hansen, I judge him on watching him play.
Not everyone will have the same opinion on everything. It is absolutely fine that some people think he is great and some people are worried by some of his flaws. But to suggest that blues who have a certain opinion of him only have it because of what Hansen said is just patronising bullshit. If you look back through this thread some people were saying those thngs about him before Hansen did, so don't be a ****.
 
mcfc2607 said:
He's a mad bastard.
I like him.

This. Also seems to have real attacking positional sense in the opponents area from set plays. Needs to reel in the diving tackles near the centre circle/30 yards out. With no pace and a high line it does not work!
 
Lancet Fluke said:
cleavers said:
Mr. Aguia said:
The guy is 33 years old. Has played for big teams. How long should he be given?

But when our LB's have been poor, and both our RB's are injured we can't patiently wait around for a very experienced player to "settle in".
He settled in weeks ago if you'd watched him, playing fine for me, but I don't listen to a has been like Hansen, I judge him on watching him play.
Not everyone will have the same opinion on everything. It is absolutely fine that some people think he is great and some people are worried by some of his flaws. But to suggest that blues who have a certain opinion of him only have it because of what Hansen said is just patronising bullshit. If you look back through this thread some people were saying those thngs about him before Hansen did, so don't be a ****.
Ooooh sorry boss, I'll not bother posting my opinion again in case you get upset. (Not that anything you claimed I "suggested" was correct but hey ho).

PS - happy christmas love (I can't call you the same word you called me for obvious reasons. though I'm sure you know the word I really meant).
 
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