Mary D's The Townley or another?

urban genie said:
It is not too shocking, on none match days the pubs are empty bar a few residents, in east Manchester there must be over 200+ pubs that have dissapeared in the last 30 years.

Add to that the police discourage liscences for closed pubs to reopen near the ground as it is close to town and far easier to handle masses of fans in the city centre than the local residential area
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My missus' old pub company (Greedy King) looked at doing a new build near to the stadium about ten years ago. They eventually gave up as the amount of obstacles thrown up, made it clear the powers that be didnt want it.
Did hear that Wetherspoons did similar, rumoured to be on the site of Mary D's, but they pulled out for same reasons.

Maybe now they may look more favourably at such, but the big Pubcos, in the current situation aren't building.
 
I believe City and the Council have purchased the land opposite Mary D's under a compulsory purchase order, with a view to joining it up with the parcel of land further down that used to be a carpark.

Mary D's won't be there much longer, that area is also earmarked for development.
 
Marvin said:
If anyone wants to open a pub themselves and run it, or get some management in to run it, then we're close to the optimum time. Pubs or bars are going to open up when the concert venue opens because it will mean that there is a constant stream of people. The area is crying out for a pub where you can eat before and after the game.

So far it's not viable because apart from the football, if you wanted to go out you'd go into town for a drink or food, but when the concert venue opens and 20k are coming in every day, and they all walk down one route, it's imo a good idea. Also a newsagent, bakery etc.

Why don't some blues get together and buy up an old building, do it up and re-open it and go for it. get the timing right, be the first ones to do it and it might work.

A nice old building would be ideal but are there any? Share the risk by getting a few blues together whose dream it has always been to run a pub.
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City are already ahead of the game.
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
I believe City and the Council have purchased the land opposite Mary D's under a compulsory purchase order, with a view to joining it up with the parcel of land further down that used to be a carpark.

Mary D's won't be there much longer, that area is also earmarked for development.
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That area is new housing all the maisonettes behind and to the side of the land are being demolished and new houses built and shops, the site of the old beswick precinct is in consultation for a new Rugby League stadium to be built.

The grass at the back of Ds is having a row of houses built on it as is the site of the old St Bridgits Church
 
urban genie said:
That area is new housing all the maisonettes behind and to the side of the land are being demolished and new houses built and shops, the site of the old beswick precinct is in consultation for a new Rugby League stadium to be built.

The grass at the back of Ds is having a row of houses built on it as is the site of the old St Bridgits Church
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Yep, was told it would look very different in the next three years.

Interesting re the Rugby League stadium.
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
Yep, was told it would look very different in the next three years.

Interesting re the Rugby League stadium.
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Not sure if it is for a new club or just a training facility, the RFL are moving headquarters to the Etihad and have just invited locals to a consultaion on a new stadium and community hub, details were short on the letter put from my parents door
 
warpig said:
It used to open up unlicensed before home games a few years back. I went in there for a few pints. I’m sure I read somewhere that it was being bought and there was a plan to reopen it.
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The Bank of England pub has an interesting history. It used to be a characterful stopping off place half way to town from the Etihad

www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk

Gangster Jimmy 'The Weed' Donnelly says he had nothing to do with the disappearance of Martin Joyce

Police are digging at a pub Mr Donnelly leased when Mr Joyce went missing in 1999
www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk
 
urban genie said:
Not sure if it is for a new club or just a training facility, the RFL are moving headquarters to the Etihad and have just invited locals to a consultaion on a new stadium and community hub, details were short on the letter put from my parents door
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Yep, saw Tony Adams at the Etihad a few times prior to Covid, think he took an executive role on the campus for the RFL?
 
urban genie said:
That area is new housing all the maisonettes behind and to the side of the land are being demolished and new houses built and shops, the site of the old beswick precinct is in consultation for a new Rugby League stadium to be built.

The grass at the back of Ds is having a row of houses built on it as is the site of the old St Bridgits Church
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Not heard about the rugby league stadium. Who would play there? Manchester Rangers were denied a permit to play in League One a few years ago, despite a growing fanbase and already having backers with enough capital to play in Super League. All because the RFL had a vanity project with their sights on North America, which has since failed. But in that time, Rangers’ backers all pulled out since there was no point the club sitting on a load of money playing amateur rugby.

Having a Manchester rugby league club would be good for the area. Especially with it being a Summer sport. Would get people down to the area (and pubs!) on at the weekend through the football off-season.

The RFL are moving to the Etihad Campus soon as well (currently in temporary offices in Trafford Wharf)
www.insidermedia.com

RFL completes sale of former Leeds head office

The Rugby Football League (RFL) has sold its former head office in Leeds after leaving the grade II-listed building last week after 26 years.
www.insidermedia.com www.insidermedia.com

Not sure whereabouts at Etihad Campus they’re moving to though.
 
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Psychedelic Casual said:
Not heard about the rugby league stadium. Who would play there? Manchester Rangers were denied a permit to play in League One a few years ago, despite a growing fanbase and already having backers with enough capital to play in Super League. All because the RFL had a vanity project with their sights on North America, which has since failed. But in that time, Rangers’ backers all pulled out since there was no point the club sitting on a load of money playing amateur rugby.

Having a Manchester rugby league club would be good for the area. Especially with it being a Summer sport. Would get people down to the area (and pubs!) on at the weekend through the football off-season.

The RFL are moving to the Etihad Campus soon as well (currently in temporary offices in Trafford Wharf)
www.insidermedia.com

RFL completes sale of former Leeds head office

The Rugby Football League (RFL) has sold its former head office in Leeds after leaving the grade II-listed building last week after 26 years.
www.insidermedia.com www.insidermedia.com

Not sure whereabouts at Etihad Campus they’re moving to though.
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https://www.rugby-league.com/articl...eeks-views-on-proposed-development-in-beswick


Was a letter came to the residents this week not big on details of what exactly they will do but the plan is for a RFL stadium to be built.
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
Not heard about the rugby league stadium. Who would play there? Manchester Rangers were denied a permit to play in League One a few years ago, despite a growing fanbase and already having backers with enough capital to play in Super League. All because the RFL had a vanity project with their sights on North America, which has since failed. But in that time, Rangers’ backers all pulled out since there was no point the club sitting on a load of money playing amateur rugby.

Having a Manchester rugby league club would be good for the area. Especially with it being a Summer sport. Would get people down to the area (and pubs!) on at the weekend through the football off-season.

The RFL are moving to the Etihad Campus soon as well (currently in temporary offices in Trafford Wharf)
www.insidermedia.com

RFL completes sale of former Leeds head office

The Rugby Football League (RFL) has sold its former head office in Leeds after leaving the grade II-listed building last week after 26 years.
www.insidermedia.com www.insidermedia.com

Not sure whereabouts at Etihad Campus they’re moving to though.
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Swinton have no ground and playing at Sale FC near the Brooklands tram stop. However if I was them I would stay there as the clubhouse is very good and when you get 500 fans watching in league 1 building a new stadium is ridiculous.

There is still a person who holds a licence for a Rugby League team in the national structure after a current club went bankrupt and reformed without his involvement, and he is north west based. I will ask him next time I see him.


Edit seeing the article above, it just looks like what Lancashire FA do with their Country Ground in Leyland, a half decent ground but not used by a club, more for finals and under age levels.
 
GOULDYBOBS said:
We watched the FA cup final in 2010 in the pub across from Mary D's. Think it was called the Manchester.
Lines of coke off the bar and everyone blazing spliffs at the doorway. Loved it
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Mmmm Chelsea beat Pompey 1-0, if it was like that for this game, what was it like the year after?
 
urban genie said:
It is not too shocking, on none match days the pubs are empty bar a few residents, in east Manchester there must be over 200+ pubs that have dissapeared in the last 30 years.

Add to that the police discourage liscences for closed pubs to reopen near the ground as it is close to town and far easier to handle masses of fans in the city centre than the local residential area
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Other then going to city matches I don’t really visit east Manchester, but I do find it a bit odd. A community of people with basically no pubs, restaurants or places to socialise. Yes pubs everywhere have shut down, but most areas still have pubs and in some cases new pubs opening up. East Manchester in particular seems to have been more effected then any other area

With the eithad and expansion incoming, surely new pubs will open in the area. If i lived there I’d hope so.
 
Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:
Other then going to city matches I don’t really visit east Manchester, but I do find it a bit odd. A community of people with basically no pubs, restaurants or places to socialise. Yes pubs everywhere have shut down, but most areas still have pubs and in some cases new pubs opening up. East Manchester in particular seems to have been more effected then any other area

With the eithad and expansion incoming, surely new pubs will open in the area. If i lived there I’d hope so.
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Places end up with little or no pubs like Bradford (the big one), the area is a classic deprivation donut and will only improve as the hole expands to subsume it, with everyone then complaining about gentrification.
 
GOULDYBOBS said:
We watched the FA cup final in 2010 in the pub across from Mary D's. Think it was called the Manchester.
Lines of coke off the bar and everyone blazing spliffs at the doorway. Loved it
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Never went in the Manchester. It always looked like a place where they took your gun off you on the way out.
 
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