Matija Nastasic

FantasyIreland said:
stony said:
Interesting to see that Savic is now doing well.

He was nowhere near as bad as was made out,although his inexperience wouldn't allow,a decent run in our side would have revealed a different player.

I always liked his attitude,glad things are turning good for him.

you may be right but he just didn't cut it in the prem, some players simply can't hack it. good luck to him though.
 
I hope everyone realizes we are probably loosing lescott because of him....lets hope that the right decision...
I still feel lescott is strong that nastasic....stength is key.
 
mgx.sleck said:
I hope everyone realizes we are probably loosing lescott because of him....lets hope that the right decision...
I still feel lescott is strong that nastasic....stength is key.

So because Lescott is stronger, he should play?

Don't think that's a good enough reason pal. Nastasic is better on the ball, with it, positionally better and importantly has had 5-6 clean sheets alongside Kompany. No need to change that just because Lescott has more strength.

Not too mention that Nastasic did well when against Andy Carroll who usually gives any defender in the league problems.
 
cccc said:
mgx.sleck said:
I hope everyone realizes we are probably loosing lescott because of him....lets hope that the right decision...
I still feel lescott is strong that nastasic....stength is key.

So because Lescott is stronger, he should play?

Don't think that's a good enough reason pal. Nastasic is better on the ball, with it, positionally better and importantly has had 5-6 clean sheets alongside Kompany. No need to change that just because Lescott has more strength.

Not too mention that Nastasic did well when against Andy Carroll who usually gives any defender in the league problems.

Nastasic is the future w/Rekik, Lescott would have been replaced within 18 months at best, he and Barry will be shipped by the summer imo, they've done their job.
 
JoeMercer'sWay said:
cccc said:
mgx.sleck said:
I hope everyone realizes we are probably loosing lescott because of him....lets hope that the right decision...
I still feel lescott is strong that nastasic....stength is key.

So because Lescott is stronger, he should play?

Don't think that's a good enough reason pal. Nastasic is better on the ball, with it, positionally better and importantly has had 5-6 clean sheets alongside Kompany. No need to change that just because Lescott has more strength.

Not too mention that Nastasic did well when against Andy Carroll who usually gives any defender in the league problems.

Nastasic is the future w/Rekik, Lescott would have been replaced within 18 months at best, he and Barry will be shipped by the summer imo, they've done their job.

barry won't leave yet. he got man of the match on wednesday. He helped our defense so much...since he has come back from injury, we haven't conceded as many goals!
 
JoeMercer'sWay said:
cccc said:
mgx.sleck said:
I hope everyone realizes we are probably loosing lescott because of him....lets hope that the right decision...
I still feel lescott is strong that nastasic....stength is key.

So because Lescott is stronger, he should play?

Don't think that's a good enough reason pal. Nastasic is better on the ball, with it, positionally better and importantly has had 5-6 clean sheets alongside Kompany. No need to change that just because Lescott has more strength.

Not too mention that Nastasic did well when against Andy Carroll who usually gives any defender in the league problems.

Nastasic is the future w/Rekik, Lescott would have been replaced within 18 months at best, he and Barry will be shipped by the summer imo, they've done their job.
No chance mate..and Barry still has a big job to do for us
 
Labatt Blue said:
JoeMercer'sWay said:
cccc said:
So because Lescott is stronger, he should play?

Don't think that's a good enough reason pal. Nastasic is better on the ball, with it, positionally better and importantly has had 5-6 clean sheets alongside Kompany. No need to change that just because Lescott has more strength.

Not too mention that Nastasic did well when against Andy Carroll who usually gives any defender in the league problems.

Nastasic is the future w/Rekik, Lescott would have been replaced within 18 months at best, he and Barry will be shipped by the summer imo, they've done their job.
No chance mate..and Barry still has a big job to do for us

He gets slower game to game, at some point he'll become a liability, he can't cope in Europe as it is.
 
JoeMercer'sWay said:
Labatt Blue said:
JoeMercer'sWay said:
Nastasic is the future w/Rekik, Lescott would have been replaced within 18 months at best, he and Barry will be shipped by the summer imo, they've done their job.
No chance mate..and Barry still has a big job to do for us

He gets slower game to game, at some point he'll become a liability, he can't cope in Europe as it is.

Slower game to game(he was immense last night)? U gotta be havin a laugh! Garcia is a lot faster I admit,but he was quickly running into the wrong places like a headless chicken last night and he was bought to replace NDJ. Which headless chicken do U suggest we replace Barry with?
 
JoeMercer'sWay said:
cccc said:
mgx.sleck said:
I hope everyone realizes we are probably loosing lescott because of him....lets hope that the right decision...
I still feel lescott is strong that nastasic....stength is key.

So because Lescott is stronger, he should play?

Don't think that's a good enough reason pal. Nastasic is better on the ball, with it, positionally better and importantly has had 5-6 clean sheets alongside Kompany. No need to change that just because Lescott has more strength.

Not too mention that Nastasic did well when against Andy Carroll who usually gives any defender in the league problems.

Nastasic is the future w/Rekik, Lescott would have been replaced within 18 months at best, he and Barry will be shipped by the summer imo, they've done their job.

I agree, Nastasic is the future and while it's sad to see someone who helped us to that title leave I think it's just inevitable, no idea who would want him though with his age and more importantly wages.

Telling me Barry is leaving is like telling a child Santa isn't real :(

Though like you said in a lower down post he's loosing pace and I can't imagine him going on for many more seasons, no matter how much I want him to.
 
Paul11/12 said:
JoeMercer'sWay said:
Labatt Blue said:
No chance mate..and Barry still has a big job to do for us

He gets slower game to game, at some point he'll become a liability, he can't cope in Europe as it is.

Slower game to game(he was immense last night)? U gotta be havin a laugh! Garcia is a lot faster I admit,but he was quickly running into the wrong places like a headless chicken last night and he was bought to replace NDJ. Which headless chicken do U suggest we replace Barry with?

I don't rate Garcia 2bh, what I'm saying is that Barry doesn't have the athleticism to keep his solid, tidy style of play up at the top level, he can't at the European level and eventually it'll show more and more often in the league. He doesn't have the technical ability to keep him at that level, so he can't play deep lying playmaker at the top level. He already gives away silly fouls and gets turned and beaten by more athletic or skillful players, at the end of the day he neither has the athleticism or technical ability to really cut it as a top CM, in the week to week Premier League against other midfielders his level he's decent, but at the top level against the best teams with more technical players he's found wanting.

It's not about headless chickens, it's about having someone with his composure and know how but with more athleticism or having some one far more technically gifted. Xabi Alonso gets away with being slow because he's so technically gifted, Milner's athleticism gives us another dimension that Barry can't provide, I'm not saying we can or should sign Xabi Alonso I'm saying that Barry's legs are going, he wasn't the quickest to start with but in recent months(starting really with his Liverpool sending off last season) that even in his basic role he struggles to keep up, and at the end of the day we need a CM partnership that can control a midfield in the league and in Europe, and Barry can't offer that the same Lescott can't at the back, they've given good service and given us a lot to cheer but their time is almost up imo and if we want to evolve and be serious on the European stage they will have to move on sooner rather than later, it's the way of the world at the top.
 
Pmsl, Barry has more technical ability than any other player in our squad and that includes silva. His consistency is amazing and is at this time irreplaceable. Apart from joe he's the one we can't do without.
 
de niro said:
Pmsl, Barry has more technical ability than any other player in our squad and that includes silva. His consistency is amazing and is at this time irreplaceable. Apart from joe he's the one we can't do without.

I used to be a huge critic of Barry,just didn't see hwat he brought to the team. Then having watched him closely I am happy to admit that he is one of our most consistent performers and does all the shit that the rest of the team doesn't do.Getting stuck in when it's needed,mopping up etc.
Still think he is too slow for the champions league but Barry gets a bad deal by many fans which is totally unjustified.
 
Dzeko's Right Boot said:
de niro said:
Pmsl, Barry has more technical ability than any other player in our squad and that includes silva.

Stop, please!

Yep. I stopped reading there. Silva could easily do what Barry does for us and likely more effectively.

Not a knock on Barry, but he isn't close to Silva.
 
de niro plz tell me what have u been drinking?? it's still morning u know. at first u said lescott is our best defender and now barry is more tecnical than silva??? do u know what would u win with a team full of lescotts and barrys?? nothing, possibly u would be fighting for relegation. barry more technical than silva hahahaha ??? come on tell what are u having i want that too.
 
alky313 said:
Dzeko's Right Boot said:
de niro said:
Pmsl, Barry has more technical ability than any other player in our squad and that includes silva.

Stop, please!

Yep. I stopped reading there. Silva could easily do what Barry does for us and likely more effectively.

Not a knock on Barry, but he isn't close to Silva.

Comparing Silva and Barry is like comparing a Ferrari to a Landrover, they are both motor cars, both very good in their respective areas, but do completely different jobs.

They are both very good players, both contribute greatly to where we are and what we have achieved, they are both consummate pro's, and they play for us!
 
kun1 said:
de niro plz tell me what have u been drinking?? it's still morning u know. at first u said lescott is our best defender and now barry is more tecnical than silva??? do u know what would u win with a team full of lescotts and barrys?? nothing, possibly u would be fighting for relegation. barry more technical than silva hahahaha ??? come on tell what are u having i want that too.

Oh here we go, where have I said lescott is our best defender? Go on, I'll give you an hour or so to search my posts. Why would I think a team of Barry's would win the league? Do you mean with lescott in net maybe.
Barry reads the game better than anyone , he's most consistent than David and does the "right" thing more often. Now just for the hard of thinking that doesn't mean silva or in fact any player in our present team is crap it just means Barry does his and that job as good if not better than all the others do theirs.
 
de niro said:
kun1 said:
de niro plz tell me what have u been drinking?? it's still morning u know. at first u said lescott is our best defender and now barry is more tecnical than silva??? do u know what would u win with a team full of lescotts and barrys?? nothing, possibly u would be fighting for relegation. barry more technical than silva hahahaha ??? come on tell what are u having i want that too.

Oh here we go, where have I said lescott is our best defender? Go on, I'll give you an hour or so to search my posts. Why would I think a team of Barry's would win the league? Do you mean with lescott in net maybe.
Barry reads the game better than anyone , he's most consistent than David and does the "right" thing more often. Now just for the hard of thinking that doesn't mean silva or in fact any player in our present team is crap it just means Barry does his and that job as good if not better than all the others do theirs.
It's a fact that we will never have a chance of winning the champions league with lescott and barry. they are limited. we need better players. at last mancini saw it and replaced lescott with nastasic and in the near future barry will be replaced too. barry is a good player don't get me wrong, he works hard but he lacks pace for the champions league. i think with the signing of benat and putting him alongside milner and let yaya a more free role would be the best option for us. u said lescott is better than nastasic, he's not, but it's ur opinion. but saying that barry is more TECHNICAL than silva wow u are deluded, i guess that's why spain has won everything in the last years and england ummm nothing.
 
kun1 said:
de niro said:
kun1 said:
de niro plz tell me what have u been drinking?? it's still morning u know. at first u said lescott is our best defender and now barry is more tecnical than silva??? do u know what would u win with a team full of lescotts and barrys?? nothing, possibly u would be fighting for relegation. barry more technical than silva hahahaha ??? come on tell what are u having i want that too.

Oh here we go, where have I said lescott is our best defender? Go on, I'll give you an hour or so to search my posts. Why would I think a team of Barry's would win the league? Do you mean with lescott in net maybe.
Barry reads the game better than anyone , he's most consistent than David and does the "right" thing more often. Now just for the hard of thinking that doesn't mean silva or in fact any player in our present team is crap it just means Barry does his and that job as good if not better than all the others do theirs.
It's a fact that we will never have a chance of winning the champions league with lescott and barry. they are limited. we need better players. at last mancini saw it and replaced lescott with nastasic and in the near future barry will be replaced too. barry is a good player don't get me wrong, he works hard but he lacks pace for the champions league. i think with the signing of benat and putting him alongside milner and let yaya a more free role would be the best option for us. u said lescott is better than nastasic, he's not, but it's ur opinion. but saying that barry is more TECHNICAL than silva wow u are deluded, i guess that's why spain has won everything in the last years and england ummm nothing.

Honestly, turn FM off and shut up. If Benat had anything about him, he'd have been joining Bayern instead of Martinez, or at least Malaga when they had the £££. A 25 year old playing for Betis is not all that. Funnily enough, Spain winning everything has had nothing to do with Benat.
 

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