McDonalds struggling

BrianW said:
I find anything with 'celebrities' a load of bollocks. In part, because I don't know who three-quarters of the 'celebrities' are. But I have to admit, a lot of people are into 'celebrities'. There's even magazines about them. I picked one up in a waiting room once and found nothing of substance in it.

But there's no denying there's a market for it, just as there's a market for soaps like Ennerdale.
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That's the state of the world we live in unfortunately
 
BrianW said:
I find anything with 'celebrities' a load of bollocks. In part, because I don't know who three-quarters of the 'celebrities' are. But I have to admit, a lot of people are into 'celebrities'. There's even magazines about them. I picked one up in a waiting room once and found nothing of substance in it.

But there's no denying there's a market for it, just as there's a market for soaps like Ennerdale.
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The market is huge sadly. Look at the crap that pops up when you go on MEN site for` example.
 
BrianW said:
You know lads, part of the issue is that money is worth fuck all these days and real wages are no higher than they were 15 years ago.

I speak as one who can remember getting 4 pints of Holt's bitter for a quid. You just look at the price of anything. A tube of glue can be £5 or more. Minimum £50 ish to get into City. And so on.
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I know things are tough mate and times are hard.
But stay off the glue and save a fiver ?
 
RadcliffeRick said:
I like the sausage McMuffin with egg breakfast with fresh orange and coffee, not the most healthiest so can only have one on rare occasions.
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Yes, that’s the ONLY thing I have from McDonalds… the sausage & egg McMuffin. Their burgers are shite.
 
This E. Coli outbreak linked to their stores (which suspiciously coincides with Trump cosplaying a fast food worker at one of their franchises) isn’t going to help them.

abcnews.go.com

E. coli cases linked to McDonald's Quarter Pounders rise to 75 across 13 states: CDC

The number of cases in a deadly E. coli outbreak linked to McDonald’s Quarter Pounders has risen to 75, the CDC said on Friday.
abcnews.go.com abcnews.go.com

(And before anyone calls me a “conspiracy theorist”, the Trump reference was a joke.)
 
35+ years ago, I did some advisory work with McDonalds. At that time they were pretty fanatical on quality and consistency. They had traceability on their raw materials that was on a par with M&S and quite precise and comprehensive operating procedures. Indeed I later used some of their HACCP schemes (anonymised ) to produce templates when teaching students. In those days I think they had a lower proportion of franchised outlets and I would say that there was then more variablity in quality between the McDonalds’ franchised outlets than the McDonalds owned outlets.

One of the problems they had was a conflict that they had with cooking times, they wanted an American concept of ‘doneness’ which left the centre of their burgers slightly pink. The problem was with the emerging cold tolerant pathogens with relatively low infectious dose levels ( e.g. Listeria moncytogenes and E. coli 0157). These had become an issue as improving the food chill chain stopped spoilage bacteria from making the food obviously ‘off’ whilst allowing harmful bacteria to continue to grow unnoticed. This was a problem for much of the food industry in the 1980’s and by and large the bigger companies with their more extensive technical support were quicker to respond than small companies.

Their preferred cooking regime for quality was OK if the initial load of pathogens was low but could give problems if there was a higher initial load of pathogens, or if the grill surface dropped a bit low, as could happen at very busy times.

I visited their East Finchley HQ which housed their UK “Burger University” to do some checks for them and also to their Crawley outlet. Checking temperatures in a busy outlet over lunchtime didn’t make me too popular with the manager - fortunately I was backed up with a UK director. In the end I think they increased their cooking times slightly.

I haven’t had a Big Mac for a while but a year or so ago I had a bacon roll when the restaurant where we were staying overnight was closed by a fire and McDonalds was just across the road. It was ok but nothing to write home about. Didn’t like the impersonal ordering system much.
 
Really_here said:
The market is huge sadly. Look at the crap that pops up when you go on MEN site for` example.
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Fuck me!
Have you ever tried to read any story on the MEN on your mobile?
Up, advert, down, advert, blank screen, advert, back advert.
Don’t even think of scrolling down to read the full story……i gave up months ago
 
SamBlue said:
Acceptable for what, to be urgently admitted to one of coronary clinics around the country. None of their items they have on the menu makes any sense nutritionally.
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If you're that anal about your food I wouldn't bother then. Sense nutritionally haha.
 
BrianW said:
You know lads, part of the issue is that money is worth fuck all these days and real wages are no higher than they were 15 years ago.

I speak as one who can remember getting 4 pints of Holt's bitter for a quid. You just look at the price of anything. A tube of glue can be £5 or more. Minimum £50 ish to get into City. And so on.
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Who buys glue?
 
Cassandra said:
35+ years ago, I did some advisory work with McDonalds. At that time they were pretty fanatical on quality and consistency. They had traceability on their raw materials that was on a par with M&S and quite precise and comprehensive operating procedures. Indeed I later used some of their HACCP schemes (anonymised ) to produce templates when teaching students. In those days I think they had a lower proportion of franchised outlets and I would say that there was then more variablity in quality between the McDonalds’ franchised outlets than the McDonalds owned outlets.

One of the problems they had was a conflict that they had with cooking times, they wanted an American concept of ‘doneness’ which left the centre of their burgers slightly pink. The problem was with the emerging cold tolerant pathogens with relatively low infectious dose levels ( e.g. Listeria moncytogenes and E. coli 0157). These had become an issue as improving the food chill chain stopped spoilage bacteria from making the food obviously ‘off’ whilst allowing harmful bacteria to continue to grow unnoticed. This was a problem for much of the food industry in the 1980’s and by and large the bigger companies with their more extensive technical support were quicker to respond than small companies.

Their preferred cooking regime for quality was OK if the initial load of pathogens was low but could give problems if there was a higher initial load of pathogens, or if the grill surface dropped a bit low, as could happen at very busy times.

I visited their East Finchley HQ which housed their UK “Burger University” to do some checks for them and also to their Crawley outlet. Checking temperatures in a busy outlet over lunchtime didn’t make me too popular with the manager - fortunately I was backed up with a UK director. In the end I think they increased their cooking times slightly.

I haven’t had a Big Mac for a while but a year or so ago I had a bacon roll when the restaurant where we were staying overnight was closed by a fire and McDonalds was just across the road. It was ok but nothing to write home about. Didn’t like the impersonal ordering system much.
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Nope. Not a clue.
 
Cassandra said:
35+ years ago, I did some advisory work with McDonalds. At that time they were pretty fanatical on quality and consistency. They had traceability on their raw materials that was on a par with M&S and quite precise and comprehensive operating procedures. Indeed I later used some of their HACCP schemes (anonymised ) to produce templates when teaching students. In those days I think they had a lower proportion of franchised outlets and I would say that there was then more variablity in quality between the McDonalds’ franchised outlets than the McDonalds owned outlets.

One of the problems they had was a conflict that they had with cooking times, they wanted an American concept of ‘doneness’ which left the centre of their burgers slightly pink. The problem was with the emerging cold tolerant pathogens with relatively low infectious dose levels ( e.g. Listeria moncytogenes and E. coli 0157). These had become an issue as improving the food chill chain stopped spoilage bacteria from making the food obviously ‘off’ whilst allowing harmful bacteria to continue to grow unnoticed. This was a problem for much of the food industry in the 1980’s and by and large the bigger companies with their more extensive technical support were quicker to respond than small companies.

Their preferred cooking regime for quality was OK if the initial load of pathogens was low but could give problems if there was a higher initial load of pathogens, or if the grill surface dropped a bit low, as could happen at very busy times.

I visited their East Finchley HQ which housed their UK “Burger University” to do some checks for them and also to their Crawley outlet. Checking temperatures in a busy outlet over lunchtime didn’t make me too popular with the manager - fortunately I was backed up with a UK director. In the end I think they increased their cooking times slightly.

I haven’t had a Big Mac for a while but a year or so ago I had a bacon roll when the restaurant where we were staying overnight was closed by a fire and McDonalds was just across the road. It was ok but nothing to write home about. Didn’t like the impersonal ordering system much.
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Interesting, personally I would never eat a burger that was pink in the middle any more than I would eat an undercooked sausage.
 
Bill Walker said:
Interesting, personally I would never eat a burger that was pink in the middle any more than I would eat an undercooked sausage.
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People do over here, which I find weird.

Every time I've ordered burger I've been asked "how would you like it cooked?". My reply of "well done please" is often met with a look of indignance.
 
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