Media bias against City

[gordondaviesmoustache]

They'd be wrong though. We used to be the thickest skinned set of fans going. Nothing used to bother us. What bothers some people these days is very soft.

Nobody accepts it neither, people just choose to ignore it like the club do (who's stance with the media is spot on!) because it isn't worth taking any notice of.

If everyone did that I don't think the media wouldn't bother with half the shit they come out with. They do have their Rag Liverpool and London club audience but they also had their over-sensitive City audience with this thread as an example to wind up. If I was a journalist I'd read this thread, rub my hands, smirk and write some bollocks to wind up the softies in this thread too. They make the journalists' jobs easy.

I'd completely disagree that "nothing used to bother us", as the reaction of City fans to the Mirror's reporting of our attendance against Mansfield in 1998 suitably demonstrates. Perhaps now, some supporters are more vociferous because we've got more to respond with than we did back then. Plus, all the lies about the myth of the united way, so willingly disseminated in the press for the last two decades, have been deliciously exposed as a lie in the last three years; that is bound to render City fans to be more vocal towards those that spread that propaganda. That isn't City fans in action, but rather human nature. Vindication is a powerful loud-hailer.

As to your final paragraph, we clearly have very different perspectives on the world. I remember when I was younger, my parents telling me to ignore bullies at school and they'll go away. Unusually for them, they were wrong. People like that need to be told to go fuck themselves. I'm firmly of the view that if someone tries to belitte you, then you should respond in kind. It's an attitude that I believe has served me well in this life, but each to their own. I accept not everyone is naturally assertive and can stand up for themselves.

If people (and the club) want to ignore it, fair enough, but don't expect everyone to follow suit. I've posted previously that I don't believe that the press we receive causes any meaningful damage to the club, but that won't stop me pointing out hypocricy, inconsistency and plain poor journalism when I spot it.

 

[Blue Mist]

It is actually incredible isn't it? It just shows how people are desperate to believe things which suit their perspective and things are skewed as a consequence.

It is ironic that people question the media, their integrity, honesty on this thread and over analyse every comment but then are happy to take a tweet,posted by a stranger, at face value as reflective of the whole story

Frank I assume your reply is aimed at my comment. I have read your explanation and your take on his tweet and I am aware you say he posted 6 or 7 other comments which were negative to the Raggies BUT let us look at this one quote.
" When MCFC lost here Stoke tore them apart, today so far it is the other way round"
Now you can use your elongated explanation of 17 words if you want - that he meant City were torn apart whereas United were punished by unfortunate mistakes if you want but I read his comment as it is written, simply that City were torn apart but the Raggies were tearing Stoke apart, other wise why say it is the other way round ? For it to be the other way round someone has to be torn apart surely ? if the rags were not being torn apart thenStoke mst be.

In the first half Stoke were hungrier than the rags, they chased balls, ran back and helped defenders. they forced mistakes. in the second half they played a more reserved game knowing that the Raggies would not/could not hurt them. the tweet did not reflect any part of the game I saw.

 

[ballbag]

I'd completely disagree that "nothing used to bother us", as the reaction of City fans to the Mirror's reporting of our attendance against Mansfield in 1998 suitably demonstrates. Perhaps now, some supporters are more vociferous because we've got more to respond with than we did back then. Plus, all the lies about the myth of the united way, so willingly disseminated in the press for the last two decades, have been deliciously exposed as a lie in the last three years; that is bound to render City fans to be more vocal towards those that spread that propaganda. That isn't City fans in action, but rather human nature. Vindication is a powerful loud-hailer.

As to your final paragraph, we clearly have very different perspectives on the world. I remember when I was younger, my parents telling me to ignore bullies at school and they'll go away. Unusually for them, they were wrong. People like that need to be told to go fuck themselves. I'm firmly of the view that if someone tries to belitte you, then you should respond in kind. It's an attitude that I believe has served me well in this life, but each to their own. I accept not everyone is naturally assertive and can stand up for themselves.

If people (and the club) want to ignore it, fair enough, but don't expect everyone to follow suit. I've posted previously that I don't believe that the press we receive causes any meaningful damage to the club, but that won't stop me pointing out hypocricy, inconsistency and plain poor journalism when I spot it.

How is this about 'standing up for yourself with bullies?" Its a terrible analogy. If this was about that, then show us what steps you've taken to get rid of all the big bad bullies that have tarnished our name. I'd go so far as to say that you belittle those who overcome real bullies (not nasty sports journos).

This whole thread is just a bitchfest at those who write a snide comment here and there. You've all got your weapons to exact revenge on these uneducated dicks that wouldn't know a football if it twatted them in the boat. To call it some kind of revenge to highlight it is a bit sad. We definitely do look at the world differently. If I see a bully, then I hit them. I don't write about it.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

How is this about 'standing up for yourself with bullies?" Its a terrible analogy.

I did think after I'd posted that wasn't entirely analogous, but there are parallels, especially in the context of what @KippaxCitizen posted. He seems to think that ignoring the lies that are written will make them less prevalent. That responding to them only serves to throw fuel on the fire. I think he's wrong about that, although I agree with him that this thread will be the most widely read on Bluemoon by sports journalists. As I said, different people have different ways of dealing with things - and life would be much duller if that wasn't the case.

Agree with you previous comments about people being made less sternly these days, but that doesn't alter my perspective on defending my club against outsiders who seek to unfairly run it down.

 

[ballbag]

I did think after I'd posted that wasn't entirely analogous, but there are parallels, especially in the context of what @KippaxCitizen posted. He seems to think that ignoring the lies that are written will make them less prevalent. That responding to them only serves to throw fuel on the fire. I think he's wrong about that, although I agree with him that this thread will be the most widely read on Bluemoon by sports journalists. As I said, different people have different ways of dealing with things - and life would be much duller if that wasn't the case.

Agree with you previous comments about people being made less sternly these days, but that doesn't alter my perspective on defending my club against outsiders who seek to unfairly run it down.

Yeah I guess I can see that side of things. I wasn't having a pop or owt. I find your posts brilliant, to be honest. Anyway, I'm quite prepared to go all vigilante and keep tabs on the shit spouted about us and eventually show the bastards up when we topple all before us. Just let me finish this bottle of Jameson's first and rewatch yesterday's match.

 

[Feed the Elk]

The Telegraph football Twitter account has #agenda, sorry, media bias written all over it

To be avoided

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Yeah I guess I can see that side of things. I wasn't having a pop or owt. I find your posts brilliant, to be honest. Anyway, I'm quite prepared to go all vigilante and keep tabs on the shit spouted about us and eventually show the bastards up when we topple all before us. Just let me finish this bottle of Jameson's first and rewatch yesterday's match.

Didn't take what you said as a pop at all, mate. Was just trying to clarify my post, as the 'bullying' reference was a bit crude, upon reflection.

Anyway, enjoy your Jameson's and enjoy the game (again!)

Season's greetings!

 

[ballbag]

Didn't take what you said as a pop at all, mate. Was just trying to clarify my post, as the 'bullying' reference was a bit crude, upon reflection.

Anyway, enjoy your Jameson's and enjoy the game (again!)

Season's greetings!

All the best to you, and to all blues everywhere!

 

[Neville Kneville]

They'd be wrong though. We used to be the thickest skinned set of fans going. Nothing used to bother us. What bothers some people these days is very soft.

Nobody accepts it neither, people just choose to ignore it like the club do (who's stance with the media is spot on!) because it isn't worth taking any notice of.

If everyone did that I don't think the media wouldn't bother with half the shit they come out with. They do have their Rag Liverpool and London club audience but they also had their over-sensitive City audience with this thread as an example to wind up. If I was a journalist I'd read this thread, rub my hands, smirk and write some bollocks to wind up the softies in this thread too. They make the journalists' jobs easy.

It isn't true that nothing used to bother us. I have hated the propaganda machine helping out rags & scousers, since I was old enough to understand it & know many people who feel the same. A fair bit of their 'history' is due to people re writing it, then it being accepted as fact, & some of that rubs off on refs & opposing teams & results in points.

Liverpool have actually been worse than the rags in that area imo. In the case of Arsenal, another club loved by the media, I think it's actually working in our favour as their media friends are so desperate for them to succeed they bulshit them into a pressure situation & failure.

 

[ballbag]

Maybe its me having a laugh at my old man every time he brings up the topic of media bias. And maybe, without justification, I accept it from them. As said, I don't mind gathering up a collective of bullshit the media write about us and taking them to task about it. I'm all for the voice. Just bought a Raspberry Pi 2, I'll set up a web crawler on dismissive articles so we have a starting point. Don't mind setting up a website to call the fuckers out either. I think I'd be pretty impartial about it all. I'd rather be providing a solution than adding to the problem.